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Maybe his apartment is on Starfleet grounds.  Current military bases provide housing for soldiers and their families.

It's all relative, Bingo.  Unless you're a drug addict like he was, your number ain't comin' up any time soon.

Oh yeah, there's a lot of them out there.

Word of advice - notice what kind of file it is.  If it's a JPG, BMP or other photo-type format, you'll need to save it to your hard drive and use something like Windows Paint to print it.  Printing JPG's et al from the browser will screw up the sizing and the parts from different pages won't fit together when you try to build it.  If it's a PDF file, you can hit "Print" right off the web site because PDF keeps the sizing correct regardless of the size of your browser window or monitor resolution.

I know, I know.  There are a lot of different ways to approach this.  I'm just throwing my version out there for consideration and making the source material available.

My thinking was that the visuals would look just like TOS up until the TMP theme kicks in, at which point the TMP title style takes over.  We get thru the theme and credits, then do the TOS portion of the story patched together from the episodes, then dissolve to TMP time and get on with the film.

Of course, there's a lot of ways to do this.  Again, my test was just to figure out how to get this alternate Shat audio back into the TOS theme without just lifting the TOS theme and speech from the series as is.

Yeah, there's other takes on the TOS theme out there, I just used one I had handy.  That's why it's a "proof of concept" - just enough to figure out how to make it work.  I'll leave it to FF to whip up the definitive version.

http://www.zizolfo.com/kirktalk.mp3

There's the straight audio of Shat that's the key to this.

OK, tell me what you think.  I whipped this up in Audacity as a proof of concept.  I had to chop up the vocals to get the pacing to match so I copied and pasted in bits of the undertone to smooth it out, but didn't do any audio finagling otherwise.  I cut the TMP theme short because I didn't make any changes after that point...the test is for integrating the speech and TOS theme.

http://www.zizolfo.com/ff-trek-theme.mp3

The vocals are from the aforementioned audio book.  The TOS theme is the season 2 version from a 3 disc set of TOS episode soundtracks and the TMP theme is obviously from that film. 

I have that, as well as a few versions on TOS soundtrack discs.

doubleofive said:

I wouldn't ask you to do that for me for mockups, but maybe if FF doesn't have access to them for the final version.

EDIT: Speaking of the intro, I like the idea of using the opening of the series theme (you know, the part that the captain talks over) during the new footage, either repeated or stretched out.  I love that music, and feel that it needs to be used more in the movies.  We could even start out with the TOS version, and move into the TNG version to fit better with the existing TMP credits.

EDIT2: Might as well let you know what episodes will eventually need to be digitized:

• Amok Time (Spock brooding in his quarters with his harp)
• The Omega Glory (Shots of the empty hallways, engineering, and sickbay)
• This Side of Paradise (Shot of Kirk walking onto the empty bridge, shot of people lined up to use the transporter, shot of Kirk packing his suitcase, maybe shot of Uhura leaving Kirk on the bridge earlier in the episode)
• Tomorrow is Yesterday (Shot of Enterprise in orbit around Earth, the one without the moon since you can see the stars THROUGH the moon they just pasted into the second identical shot)

 

I'll check out those eps.

Regarding integrating the TOS theme, I found something that could be very cool.  I have an audio book collection of "Enterprise: The First Adventure", "Final Frontier" and "Strangers from the Sky".  In addition to the three books, Shatner does a five minute or so introduction to the collection.  In that intro, he does a very reserved spoken version of the TOS speech with very subdued music under it.  It's a different and interesting take on the  opening...familiar, yet with that "tired" feel to it. I'll whip up an audio clip of it later tonight.

There's only one band that matters.

I have TOS Remastered on standard.  Make up a list of what eps are needed and I can rip them and get discs in the mail.

DoomBot said:

So when your done with EP V will you have a 1080p version or just the 720p?

Ady's working in 720.  1080 was choking his machine (and he's got a QuadCore!) and there isn't enough alternate material in 1080 for him to work from to do everything he needs to do.

What about Google Chrome?  Anyone fooled with that?  Opinions?

I have an old game called Klingon Honor Guard.  I'll rummage thru it and see if there are bits of Klingspeak in there.

So, to clarify...

Download 80 RAR files from RS.  Unzip #1, that will jump to the next to the next to the next and create one 8gig ISO file.  Burn the ISO with IMGBurn ("Write image file to disc") and you should have a working disc.

Tell your friend to burn the disc at the slowest possible speed.  Some burners and machines have trouble burning dual layer discs at higher speeds.  You might also want to disable things like virus scan, screen savers and any other system activity based programs that run on startup.  They've caused burning problems on occasion too.

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=3868280

I put out the call for Decker manips.

As far as Windom is concerned, would it be possible to take that pic of him and just remove the stubble and darken his hair?  Would that be easier than hunting down his entire catalog of films to get a single screen grab?

If you need a manip of Windom or Collins, ask around at TrekBBS.  There are plenty of people there who do phenomenal work.  I'm sure someone would be willing to contribute.

The problem I have with writing off the age/appearance difference is a proportional one.

Yoda said in TESB "For 800 years have I trained Jedi".  So, let's call him 900 years old just to give him some time to get old enough to become a master and teacher.

Now, humans typically live to 80 or so, some pushing 90.  That means that Yoda's life span is roughly 10 times that of a human.

Working backwards from that perspective, 25 years in Yoda's age difference is the equivalent of a human aging 2.5 years.  For Yoda to look proportionally older from PT to OT, there would have had to have been upwards of 250 years in between.  Of course then all the key humans would be long dead (or nowhere near being born yet, depending which direction you're counting.)

Should be.  Give it a try.  Might want to delete it from your post though.  That counts as "link to download" which isn't allowed around here.

That does look really good, just detailed enough to bring the TOS E up to film detail standards without changing the design outright.  I could definitely see that in a prologue of some kind.

Download the DVD-5 version?  You'll lose some bonus features but the film is the same.

Bingo, there's all different ways to debate and justify the color changes back and forth, both "real world" and "in universe", so let me just throw one more out there and leave it to FF to make the final decision.

One of the main reasons TOS looks as colorful as it does was as much due to lighting design as it was to set design.  As you work your way through the series there are always these splashes of color on walls, doors and floors - partly for dramatic reasons but also partly to make it appear that the same room or hallway section of the filming set is supposed to be a different room in the ship.

Since there's no "other" bridge, lighting there was always for effect.  When you take that out of the equation, the bridge is limited to the black/grey/beige tones just like in the films.  The only real color on the bridge as far as painting was the red accents - railings, helm/nav console, console edges and the turbolift doors.  The rest of the "color" came from set lighting and all those little screens.

Even without set and filming lights, there's still functional reasons for the red accents.  When you look at anything, the first thing your mind notices is color - that's what helps your brain then define shape, distance, brightness and so on.  In a functional setting like the bridge, the red railings remind people that the railings are there.  Having them black or gray in a room where everything else is black or gray, they would mentally disappear from your field of view and could lead to accidents.

Likewise, the blue sections surrounding the overhead screens guide your eye and tell your brain where to focus your attention.  Even the consoles had different sheens of black - semi-gloss for the overall surface, high gloss for the inserts the buttons were on.  When you sit down at your station, that subtle difference in sheen and texture helps your brain track where your hands should be.

If that shot above could just be "powered down", as 005 said, that might be the better way to go.

Either don't overuse it or take it to the extreme.  What could be funny would be to have everyone scream the same scream in the scene when Vespa takes out the whole squad chasing them to Lone Star's ship, right at "You shot my hair!"