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#1287606
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70mm print of GOUT on Saturday in Academy Theater in CA!
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Ronster said:

Is this something that could have been found recently or forgotten about?

It seems to be explained here:

Cliffs71 said:

I was there as well. My understanding (unless I totally misunderstood what Dykstra said) was that this print was a 70mm UK print struck in the early 90s for one off special screenings, such as charity events. It was damaged the first time it was run with a decent 2’ / 2 second tear during the explosion of the Death Star (which is in the MIDDLE of the final reel). It was immediately pulled from circulation and left gathering dust, never to be run again for 25 or so years. Dykstra made it sound like the Academy projectionist is the one that actually repaired the damage which allowed it to be shown again (which might also explain why it was a last minute announce/addition to the programming).

As for the print itself… Holy Jeebus! I can’t imagine it looked any better opening day of any of the 70mm re-releases. It was gorgeous and other than that 2 seconds of damage (which, BTW, didn’t require any frames to be lost to repair and didn’t affect the sound), the print was pretty immaculate. Dykstra did say there was considerable effort of the part of many to get Lucas’s approval, so I sadly wouldn’t hold out much hope that this print suddenly finds its way into more and more screenings. I think it could be seen again, but my gut tells me (to quote Indy) only on special occasions. The bigger news to me though is just the knowledge that this exists in the first place and therefore it IS possible should that occasion ever happen.

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#1286665
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The Phantom Menace - Theatrical version scanned in 4K
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The project is moving forward, with the usual hazards for this kind of project (we are still waiting for a new 4K sensor that is stuck somewhere by a Japanese supplier).

In the meantime, I’ll post screenshots made from the first test scan (720p) ASAP so you can compare raw colors to official releases.

And as Omni and RU.08 say, it’s a long way, you’ll need to be patient… I’ll keep you informed of course!

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#1282370
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The Phantom Menace - Theatrical version scanned in 4K
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dahmage said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Morphzero said:

Is there going to be a Grindhouse release of this? I’d love to see all of the scenes that were removed for the VHS/DVD/Blu Ray.
Like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Uvad9uSc9k

Nothing was removed for the VHS or laserdisc. Those are both the theatrical version. And

you are a master of suspense

Yes, you

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#1282342
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The Phantom Menace - Theatrical version scanned in 4K
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alexp120 said:

Morphzero said:

Is there going to be a Grindhouse release of this?

I second that.

The Gen X’ers and Millennials, here, first saw the TPM on the big screen via 35mm prints. Despite the film’s short-comings—for me, it was the lack of humor…JarJar’s comic relief wasn’t enough—seeing those random flashes of dust-marks, and reel-change cue marks on TPM, would bring me back to a happier time at the movies.

^

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#1282296
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The Phantom Menace - Theatrical version scanned in 4K
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Omni said:

Great! Will you be needing donations to cover any costs?

Thank you for asking.
The entire process will probably cost about $10k, but I don’t want to ask for money, since many people (including me) already made donations for other aborted projects.
So let’s say that there is no donation for now. I’ll see later, with other OT members, if something can/must be asked.

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#1282179
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The Phantom Menace - Theatrical version scanned in 4K
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Based on the test reel in 720p, it is by far better than the HDTV broadcast :

  • no Edge Enhancement
  • no exagerate cropping
  • no awful colors.

It seems to be more detailed than the HDTV, but it is difficult to compare a new rough scan with an old artificially sharpened one.

It is obviously a little bit less detailed than the Blu-Ray (which was scanned from the original negative, not from a theatrical 35 mm), but IMHO, the image is more natural than the Blu-Ray: there is no DNR (so you don’t get Qui-Gon’s wax face as in the Blu-Ray, the grain is preserved)… and the original alien subtitles are there.

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#1282170
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The Phantom Menace - Theatrical version scanned in 4K
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Today is probably the good date to officialy announce that a scan in 4K, based on a 35mm in very good condition, is currently in progress.
And it will be done twice 😃

I received a few days ago from the lab in Paris a first test scan of reel 4 (made with a simple 720p scan), just to analyze the average condition of the reel before scanning it with a brand new 4K scanner. The lab scanned the entire reel… in 25 fps (the French standard) so it is not currently usable (there are ghosting artefacts and interpolated frames). Damn French people, always thinking that the world needs their own standards!

But It looks just gorgeous, even in 25 fps: the reel is in PERFECT condition, it looks like it was never projected before, the colors are perfectly preserved. The lab made NO correction at all (white balance, DNR or something else) and the rough result is astonishingly good.

The 4K scan will be obviously done in 24 fps, can’t wait to get it 😊

Happy birthday to TPM!

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#1282169
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ZigZig's THE PHANTOM MENACE Theatrical reconstruction 1080p – V1.0 work in progress
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Yes, and it is probably the good date to officialy announce that a scan in 4K, based on a 35mm in very good condition, is currently in progress.
And it will be done twice 😃

  • a first scan (in 4K) will be processed as soon as possibly by a Parisian lab, so that I can use it to finish my ongoing despecialized edition
  • then the reels will be shared with some people from OT (I don’t know if I can name them), and a second scan will be processed with the best available scanner.

I received a few days ago from the lab in Paris a first test scan of reel 4 (made with a simple 720p scan), just to analyze the average condition of the reel before scanning it with a brand new 4K scanner. The lab scanned the entire reel… in 25 fps (the French standard) so it is not currently usable (there are ghosting artefacts and interpolated frames). Damn French people, always thinking that the world needs their own standards!

But It looks just gorgeous, even in 25 fps: the reel is in PERFECT condition, it looks like it was never projected before, the colors are perfectly preserved. The lab made NO correction at all (white balance, DNR or something else) and the rough result is astonishingly good.

The 4K scan will be obviously done in 24 fps, can’t wait to get it 😊

Happy birthday to TPM!

(JEDIT: I’ll make a new post to discuss about the scan, and keep this post about the forthcoming despecialized edition)

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#1280438
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ZigZig's THE PHANTOM MENACE Theatrical reconstruction 1080p – V1.0 work in progress
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LordZerome1080 said:

jzilli said:

ZigZig said:

I have the chance to use a forthcoming 4K format scan of the original 35mm

GULP

Well this is certainly great news!

How have we gained access to the original negative?? If we do, then can someone for the love of Jaba get the OUT negs away from Lucasfilm.

It is obviously not the original negative, but a Kodak 2382 lowfade in very good condition.

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#1280428
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ZigZig's THE PHANTOM MENACE Theatrical reconstruction 1080p – V1.0 work in progress
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Hi CarterStarkiller,

The project is going well. It will take longer than expected, because I have the chance to use a forthcoming 4K format scan of the original 35mm, so I think it’s worth waiting a little more than expected.
So no, it will not be done for the 20th anniversary of the TPM. But in the end, there will be a 4K scan of the entire movie…

More news coming soon.

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#1273475
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ZigZig's THE PHANTOM MENACE Theatrical reconstruction 1080p – V1.0 work in progress
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Hi CarterStarkiller,

Thank you for your interest in this project. I’m still actively working on it (I found and scanned 35mm cells for each subtitle, so that I can now rotoscope those “original” subtitles instead of trying to make new ones).
The despecialization is almost done, I still have to regrade the colors.