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#608086
Topic
Star Wars OT & 1997 Special Edition - Various Projects Info (Released)
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SS4DarthPayne said:

My vote is that you guys use your discretion and don't get burned out (aka probably slow down on the individual frame cleanup). But I'm just one person. More importantly, though, I hope you're doing alright! I had some surgery about a year ago. Not fun stuff. 

I'm doing alright, thanks. And the reason we work as slow as we do is exactly because of that. We don't want to burn ourselves out. But in the end it might still be burning us out so I'm going to discuss the options with DJ.

SS4DarthPayne said:

As you said, no matter what you guys end up doing, the GOUT will have never looked this good, so I take that as a win. Simple as that. You guys are doing incredible work

Thanks a lot for appreciating it.

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#608041
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Star Wars OT & 1997 Special Edition - Various Projects Info (Released)
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Once again thank you for the nice comments.

djchaseb said:

Seems like you guys are nearing the end!

Actually, we're only halfway through the first film when it comes to the cleanup.

I'm sorry to say this but it takes a huge amount of time to work on the cleanup of bad frames. This is something that me and DJ might have to discuss, because this autumn things have been moving slowly, both because it takes so much time to actually work on it, and also because I've had some health problems that have prevented me from working on it. I went through two surgeries the last couple months, and while things are almost back to normal now, I still think if we keep doing this project the way we have, it might take us years to finish all three.

Even though SW has many frames with dirt, glue marks, flashes and all, it's nothing compared to ESB. ESB has thousands and thousands of them and it's not only single frames, because it's the GOUT we're talking about. Glue marks and such things are smeared into the frames before or after so it all usually needs cleanup in more than one frame.

In the near future I think I'm gonna discuss with DJ if we should only clean up the color errors, like Tie lasers being yellow, the Falcon's laser being green etc, and leave the rest as it is. After all, the glue marks are from the negative, and many of the dirt marks and flashes are from the interpositive, so a lot of it was seen like that in the cinema too!

We'll see how it turns out but either way, the GOUT have never looked better, remember that. :)

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#607483
Topic
Our Night Of The Living Dead 1990 project (Released)
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Thank you guys for showing interest in this project!

I've written a script which will restore the HDX version to the way it should look, at least close, since there is edge enhancement and sharpening added to it which could easily be reduced with a couple avisynth plugins.

I've also made sure that the HDX version is perfectly synched to the blu-ray version, maybe meaning that the audio tracks could be linked to both, allowing both to be on the same disc. I don't know much about authoring blu-rays but I bet DJ will soon tell me if that's possible.

So hopefully this release will be:

Special edition, advantages: Less cropped, cleaner and more stable image, more horror-ish color timing.

Original version, advantages: Original color timing, more preserved shadow and highlight detail.

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#607434
Topic
team negative1 - star wars 1977 - 35mm theatrical version (Released)
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AntcuFaalb said:

ww12345 said:

AntcuFaalb said:

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Sethian Eber said:

The worst prints are release prints. Contrary to popular belief, release prints are crap and have at best the equivalent of 720p in terms of spatial resolution when projected. The chemical process smears the resolution due to uneven gate speeds. Then you got dirt and damage on top of that.

What is this, I don't even...

How did they think a "chemical process" smears the film?? Uneven gate speeds? That would never happen, but if it did, that would lead to jumped frames, not resolution problems. What a moron.

I agree. He most definitely is a moron.

He's almost as bad as those people who claim that GOUT is the best possible preservation due to "70s film limitations".

WTF

Maybe he's referring to generation loss when creating a theatrical print. I don't know about the chemical process of creating a print but I know that there is negative -> interpositive -> internegative -> theatrical print. Except Mike Verta said the technicolor IB prints of SW were printed straight from the negative itself.

That said, I think comparing a theatrical print to 720p digital resolution is a bit weird. But this guy at least thinks the originals should be preserved.

The other guy you're referring to is obi-rob-kenobi-4 AKA Sifo-Dyas. That guy calls us haters just because we love the originals.

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#607141
Topic
Our Night Of The Living Dead 1990 project (Released)
Time

Ok so me and DJ (and our friend the menu-guy) have worked a lot on Star Wars lately and sometimes we get tired and need to look at something else. DJ came up with the idea of fixing the horrible blu-ray release of Night Of The Living Dead 1990 remake, and we’re close to finishing it.

Originally, NOTLD 90 was colorful and bright, but the blu-ray was color timed to be dark and blue-tinted, also crushing the shadow detail in the process and even clipping some whites too. The clipping resulted in a loss of the grain that is present throughout the whole movie in the original, which we have restored by sampling grain from scenes where it wasn’t destroyed.

And of course we’ve done a color correction to make it much more balanced. In the new color timing they had set the white and black levels differently for each scene it seems, so we first had to use a plugin to get the whole movie back to a more constant balanced look, and then color correct it. The result is a more true representation of this new color timing, since there was no way to make it look exactly like the original.

We chose to do this because even the highest quality version we found using the original color timing, (which was the VuDu HDX version) looked like it was too compressed to make it a clean-looking blu-ray in the end.

EDIT: After some discussions with DJ, we have decided we’re gonna try and include the HDX version too, since otherwise we’d almost be doing a Lucas here, releasing a “special edition” with no unaltered counterpart. On closer examination of the HDX version, I could see now that it’s oversharpened and that’s why I thought it looked more compressed than it actually is. We’re planning on maybe blurring it a bit to get back the cleaner look from before the oversharpening, and then sample some grain and re-add it over the whole movie to cover up whatever compression is left, and also to restore the grain in all scenes where compression might’ve reduced it.

Here are the specs straight from DJ. (Might edit these if we add something)

Night of The Living Dead 1990

Video:
1080p AVC @ 30Mbps avg

Audio:
DTS-HD MA 5.1, Lossless PCM, Dolby Digital 2.0

Subs:
English SDH

Extras:

  • Production Notes scan
  • Director Tom Savini’s Commentary
  • “The Dead Walk” Making-of Featurette
  • Original Theatrical Trailer(BD & DVD versions)
  • Talent Files
  • Isolated Score Track
  • Night of The Living Dead Workprint with Dolby Digital 2.0
  • Fangoria #97 The Return of the Classic Dead - Tom Savini’s version of “Night of the Living Dead” scans
  • Siskel and Ebert review of Night of The Living Dead 1990
  • Joe Bob Briggs Night of the Living Dead reunion from Drive-In Theater in 1992 with the original '68 cast and Tom Savini talking about the original film and the remake
  • Tom Savini’s camcorder footage during the making of NOTLD90
  • Original vs Remake
  • Night of The Living Dead screenwriter George Romero
  • Tom Savini Q&A
  • Night of The Living Dead 1990 review by “Ain’t It Cool News”

this release will be our first BD50 release

Some screenshots:

 

 

 

 

 

If you wanna know more about the film, check IMDB.

We’re probably planning something with the original 1968 version too, and we’ll keep you updated once we get started with that.

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#605353
Topic
Thorr's 35 mm Star Wars Trilogy SE Trailer WQHD Restoration (Part-Finished)
Time

thorr said:

Hi You_Too.  Thanks for your interest.  No, it's not done yet.  I tend to do it in waves when I feel like it.  It takes a lot of time.  Sometimes something happens that demotivates me because I have to redo something, and so I stop for awhile.  Since you showed some interest, I might start again soon.  When do you plan to release the 97 SE blu-ray set?

Ok, we'll see if you're done before we've released all three then! But right now it leans towards releasing one at a time along with our GOUT upscale.

And those two trailers on youtube are interesting. The first one has a very similar color timing to the TB version that we're working with, except Mos Eisley haven't been turned pink in the trailer.

The second trailer has a more correct color timing without the blue/cyan all over the place.

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#605244
Topic
The 80s
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@1990osu: Sorry to hear that. But you have a point.

I think there are more old Star Wars fans than we know. After all, let's say some guy was 40 when he saw Star Wars in 1977. He would be 75 today.

Myself I'm an '84, so I missed out on all three in the cinema. But I remember my father (who passed away some years ago) telling me once that his brother who is and has always been a bit of a tech-nerd said to him in 1977: "I saw this movie in the cinema called Star Wars, you have to see it! It's the best movie ever made!"

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#605145
Topic
Star Wars OT & 1997 Special Edition - Various Projects Info (Released)
Time

Thank you captainsolo, and everybody else for all nice comments. Both me and DJ are happy to hear you're excited about this!

About 97 SE: DJ confirmed that we will include

Laserdisc PCM
Dolby Digital 2.0
Dolby Digital 5.1
Cinema DTS 5.1

And when I talked about the color correction being minor with the exception of Mos Eisley, here's an example that shows it:

Basically all three movies will be balanced a bit better, so they won't look as blue/cyan as a lot of scenes do in the raw TB broadcast.

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#605093
Topic
team negative1 - star wars 1977 - 35mm theatrical version (Released)
Time

First of all, vbangle: Both of those shots have been clipped from 0-255 to 16-235. And the shot from blu v2 has the wrong aspect ratio, should be a bit taller. So there's probably some settings that are wrong in the software you used to capture them.

Here's how our shot really looks:

And the shot you posted from negative1's old trailer is from what I think they called an "early color correction". I bet they've made a massive improvement since then. And that shot is also compressed.

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#604654
Topic
Info: General Terminator 1 & 2 Discussions.
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STENDEC said:

Hopefully some day soon we'll get a proper restoration of T2, but until then the Japan disk does me just fine!

Has there been anything announced about that? Because if so, we'll wait with that one.

Anyway, I've talked to DJ about the audio and just like you he said there is nothing wrong with the file itself. I'd say either it's the software you used for the muxing or it's your blu-ray player or sound system.

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#604326
Topic
Info: General Terminator 1 & 2 Discussions.
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The Aluminum Falcon said:

Ooh. Sounds interesting, You_Too. I assume the eventual product will be BD-50s... I eagerly await that project, as well as all the other ones you and dark_jedi are doing.

I don't know if it will be BD50, DJ knows that stuff better than me. I don't even have a blu-ray burner. But if it's the only way to preserve the full quality then I bet DJ will agree that it should be put on BD50's.

It's actually funny how many projects we come up with. But sometimes we simply do that to take our mind off Star Wars for a short while. It's been some really hard work.

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#603898
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Info: General Terminator 1 & 2 Discussions.
Time

Just wanted to announce that sometime in the future when some other projects are done, me and DJ are planning to make our own color corrected versions of Terminator 1 and 2.

The only details I can provide you with so far is that we want to take the new Terminator blu-ray back to the original colors and then balance out the pink tint to get back the true original look.

The source of Terminator 2 will be the japanese blu-ray which doesn't have the heavy DVNR. That one's also a little bit pink and needs to be balanced.