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- #198048
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Originally posted by: Darth Simon
those old 40's war propoganda comics arent relavent to the topic at hand (imho). Something like that would never be published today as its a different time, but its still likely that a comic with superman holding the american flag on the cover would be. You are right, something like that would never be published today because current attitudes have changed. For the same reason, perhaps the 'American Way' slogan may also need some revision. I know that in America rigth now, patriotism is a big thing, and rightly so. In fact, I admire America's national pride and I think England could benefit from some of that. However, from an international marketing P.O.V, I understand the change. I agree the line should have been omitted altogether though instead of being watered down into a rather lame joke. Who know though - perhaps in context the line will work.
I'm having trouble explaining exactly what I mean, and as an American I imagine it will be very difficult for you to spot or understand exactly what I am saying, because the things I am talking about will not seem out of place to you because they are included to make the viewing experience less jarring for you, but just take my word for it - Doctor Who has been 'tweaked' to better suit America, and so have many, many other British things. I think we are slowly losing our identity. Oh well.
P.S That British Superman really does look like a dick. I'm surprised he's not drinking a cup of tea with his little finger sticking out.
P.P.S Warb, the second series of the New Doctor Who is starting here later this month, starring David Tennant as the new doctor.
Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
I HAVE TO RESPECT ALL OF YOU GUYS RIGHT NOW. THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT DEBATE, AND NOBODY HAS RESORTED TO NAME CALLING, ECT. GOOD JOB, GUYS. THIS IS THE WAY A DEBATE SHOULD BE.
Yes, it's true - we rock.those old 40's war propoganda comics arent relavent to the topic at hand (imho). Something like that would never be published today as its a different time, but its still likely that a comic with superman holding the american flag on the cover would be. You are right, something like that would never be published today because current attitudes have changed. For the same reason, perhaps the 'American Way' slogan may also need some revision. I know that in America rigth now, patriotism is a big thing, and rightly so. In fact, I admire America's national pride and I think England could benefit from some of that. However, from an international marketing P.O.V, I understand the change. I agree the line should have been omitted altogether though instead of being watered down into a rather lame joke. Who know though - perhaps in context the line will work.
Originally posted by: Warbler
what have they done to the New Doctor Series? I have been watching the American version on the Sci Fi channel.
Being an American, you probably won't spot what I am talking about, because it is done to cater to America and make Americans like it better, but as an English person watching an English show, I cringe every time something is added or said to make the show more American friendly. British humour, British story telling, etc are different to American styles, and many nuances and subtle things are lost on the Americans (my wife is American and she is living proof of this - I do not think it is the same the other way round though because we (the english and the rest of the world) are much more exposed to American media. In fact, perhaps this is also a factor in why our TV and movies are beginning to seem 'more American'. For example, in Doctor Who, some of the British slang is changed and there are a lot more Americanisms added. There are a lot more American characters (I don't know if you have reached the Captain Jack episodes yet, but he is an American guy - I actually quite like his character so I am not grumbling about having an American actor on board, just pointing it out). The whole feel of the show is a lot more 'American' in an attempt to make it blend in more with American TV and not stand out as some obscure British thing that the general public won't want to see. You may also notice that the episodes are 45 minutes long (which means that, with commercials, they will be an hour in America). Doctor Who has ALWAYS been 30 minutes long, and the BBC does not show commercials so it was a perfect length, so this chnage has obviously been introduced to aid US sydication. However, I like longer episodes because you get more story, so again, I'm not complaining.what have they done to the New Doctor Series? I have been watching the American version on the Sci Fi channel.
I'm having trouble explaining exactly what I mean, and as an American I imagine it will be very difficult for you to spot or understand exactly what I am saying, because the things I am talking about will not seem out of place to you because they are included to make the viewing experience less jarring for you, but just take my word for it - Doctor Who has been 'tweaked' to better suit America, and so have many, many other British things. I think we are slowly losing our identity. Oh well.
P.S That British Superman really does look like a dick. I'm surprised he's not drinking a cup of tea with his little finger sticking out.
P.P.S Warb, the second series of the New Doctor Who is starting here later this month, starring David Tennant as the new doctor.
Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
I HAVE TO RESPECT ALL OF YOU GUYS RIGHT NOW. THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT DEBATE, AND NOBODY HAS RESORTED TO NAME CALLING, ECT. GOOD JOB, GUYS. THIS IS THE WAY A DEBATE SHOULD BE.
Superman may not have said the line in Superman II, but he did say it in Superman I. Superman is an American so he should fight for the American Way(and I don't mean Bushes way), and we as truth and Justice. It is a classic line and should not be altered just try to avoid offending nonAmericans. If they get offended, too bad. The movie should make the studios more than enough $$$ in US alone without worrying about pandering to the rest of the world. And if your worring about offending people, what about the Americans you'll be offending by taking out the line? 