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#162030
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MANGLER BROS., INC. IS NOW CLOSED HERE
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Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
WORKS FOR ME. JUST LET US KNOW WHERE TO PAY PAL YOU.

The e-mail address that is linked to my paypal is in my profile. I would ask that anyone who donates PMs me to let me know that have have done so, and also writes their OT.com username in the notes of their paypal payment so that I know it has been recieved. On the 20th December I will let you guys know the total raised and forward the sum to Rikter on behalf of us all. Seeing as today is the 9th, time is short, so let's get going on this.
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#162027
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Ethics
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Originally posted by: JediSage
Originally posted by: Bossk
Originally posted by: JediSage
I work at an alcohol/drug rehabilitation center that has residential programs. One of the programs has men that are basically 1 step away from going back to jail. I believe that it's mandatory for them to give a DNA sample to department of corrections as part of their deal. IMO, that's Orwellian.


Difference being that they agreed to it as part of their rehabilitation, probation, etc. No one forced them to sign on the line saying that they had to do this. They could have gone to jail.

This guy who was cured of HIV has a choice as well. He can submit to more testing (and he's probably been through a ton already in his life) or he can just live. Thankfully, his choices are a bit better than the guy in your rehab center, but it's still a choice. You can't take that away from him. Or, at least, I hope you can't.


In our case, I believe it's Orwellian because the person has already been convicted and punished for their crime. With the DNA issue they're practially taking the presumption of innocence of FUTURE crimes and tossing it out the window. Yes, they have a choice, but if we make the exception of having DNA for "criminals", then it won't be long before we do it when dealing with foreigners and immigrants (to protect ourselves from terrorism, no doubt), followed by children (in the event they're kidnapped). Things like this, and the proliferance of surveillance cameras, mandatory internet wiretapping rules, etc are giving rise to a very scary world.


As some of you know I am married to an American and currently in the process of applying for a visa. As part of this process I am required to give a retinal scan and fingerprints. I have no criminal record, nothing bad at all in my past, and I work for the british government. I'm not sure how I feel about it, but it's either that or no visa, so I will have to do it.

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#162025
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A Deep, Abiding Emptiness
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Sage, I wonder if you would mind e-mailing me or signing up on MSN messenger so we can proparly chat. I have been feeling like you for a long time, and yesterday I realised that I have reverted to my old cynical, hateful ways. It happened because I was tidying up and I found a journal that I was writing this time last year. I started writing the journal as a way of consolidating my thougts and feelings and making sense of them. As I read the journal I realsied that a lot of the personal discoveries I made during the course of writing had once again been lost. This morning I vowed to get back onto the path and trybto make my life and the life of others better but I don't know how. And to top it off I am at this very moment involved in an e-mail debate with a friend of mine and his ol;der brother who both work corporate office jobs and are telling me I'm a fool to even think like this and I should just shut up and join them and the rest of the world in the pursuit of riches and sex. And that whole post was a rambling mess. Fuck I need to do something. Signing off.
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#161447
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The Star Wars Saga - From a newcomer's point of view
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
She likely felt that way because she simply saw the PT, and felt the OT was to slow compared to the PT.
Which is a failure on Lucas' part for not being a good enough filmmaker to match the pace and style of his originals. If he had made the prequels in a retro kind of way, mimicking his old style, I'm sure he would have been praised for it and everyone would have said how clever it was of him to make a seventies style film in the nineties.

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#161444
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The Star Wars Saga - From a newcomer's point of view
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
The point is, someone (gasp) watched them in order, (gasp) liked the prequels, and (gasp) liked and saw them as one saga because they were a new viewer, with none3 of that "I am your father" childhood nostalgia affecting them. They saw them how they were meant to be seen. Boy, would I love to havce been them!

Yeah, some mentally sub-normal girl who probably thought Hayden was 'so cute'. Whatever. I don't deny the possibility that the prequels, when watched with the 2004 versions have the ability to flow as one enjoyable 6 part story, but our point on this website is that this six part story is NOT the original story Lucas created, and he has shaped and remolded Star Wars into something different, something it never was (despite his lies) and has lost a lot of the best things about it in the process. That is what you fail to see Adam, and I feel sorry for you because, thanks to Lucas, you will never have the chance to view the movies the way we did, the way they were originally written and intended. Sure, you can get some LD rips, but your experience will be tainted by your prequel experiences. Boy are you missing out.

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#161400
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Terrible songs that you secretly like... (aka the all-too-brief OT.com boyband thread)
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
It's OK, I'll be on drums. You won't have to hear me sing. Though I'm afraid if I let you sing, you'll come off with a loud verse of that song "George Lucas Raped My Childhood."

Boy bands don't have drummers. They have a drum machine, a sampler, a synthesiser and 4 or 5 singers/dancers.

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#161386
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ROTS: Best actor?
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
I must differ. Ian is always great, and Ewan, IMO, gave a MUCH better proformance than he ever has (see The Island for an example of bad)

See trainspotting for an example of good.
Look man, there is no chance in hell of Star Wars winning anything except maybe a special effects award or some other fairly obscure homur, or maybe a token award for achievemnet in cinema for the whole saga. Personally I think Ian was dog shit in ROTS, but if you like it, that's cool, but it is not oscar worthy by any strectch of the imagination. Have you seen Adrian Brody in the Pianist? That desrved the oscar. Tom Hanks in Philadelphia, Jack Nicholson in One flew over the cucko's nest, Ben Kingsley in Ghandi, Dustin Hoffman in Rainman, but Ian as Palpatine or Ewan as Obi Wan? No Way.



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#161066
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The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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This is great stuff. I like the idea of removing Obi-Wan's lie, but that doesn't mean you can't still use Commander Courage's idea of starting ROTJ on Dagobah. The problem then is that in the Official cut of ROTJ, Luke says he cannot kill his father, but in ESB, Before he knew the truth of his parentage, he was all for running off to Bespin to deal with DV, so if you go with Obi-Wan revealing in his hut, how do you explain Luke's willingness to face Vader in ESB but not so keen in ROTJ?

It always bugged me that Luke deserted his training in ESB then turns up a year later to find Yoda on his death bed, asks about his Dad, then leaves with Yoda all but confirming that he is a Jedi Knight bar one task - facing Vader. What a crappy student!! And he has the nerve to call himself a Jedi Knight in front of Jabba. So how about this - Put Luke returning to Dagobah at the end of ESB!! When Luke say's to Lando and Chewie may the force be with you over the comlink as they fly off to find Han, you could dub in Luke's line from ROTJ when he says to R2 'We're going to the Dagobah system. I have apromise to keep... to an old friend'. only this time he will be speaking the line to Lando over the comlink (might even be able to find some dialogue of Lando saying 'what about you?' or something like that (there is actually a similar line in the sand storm scene which has Han asking Luke to join them on the falcon and Luke saying 'I have a promise I have to keep first... to an old friend'. which would be perfect if it could be ripped. We then cut to Luke on Dagobah, Yoda's confirmation of Vader as Dad, then he dies and the movie ends. Luke knows what he must do, and in the next movie, he does it.

To solve the problem of the really poor rescue attempt at the Start of Jedi, would it maybe be possible to have a title crawl that explains that Lando, Chewie, Leia and the droids all tried to rescue Han but never returned, and the movie then begins with Luke's arrival and Leia alraedy chained to Jabba, etc. Of course, you then have the question of Han being thawed... But maybe when Luke requests that Han is set free, We cut to Jabba's 'I like captain solo where he is' line and show Han frozen. Luke is then dropped into the Rancor's den and when he kills the Rancor, Jabba is so angry he says 'that's it, I am outraged' (or words to that effect, all done with subtitles, of course). He then orders his minions to thaw solo and bring him before him. Leia in Boussh disguise could double as one of Jabba's men. Boussh thaws Han and with some voice dubbing, instead of telling Han 'you are free of the carbonite, blah blah blah' says something like ' you'll wish you were still frozen when you hear what Jabba has in store for you'. Then the sail barge and all that stuff plays out as usual. the lightsabre hidden in R2...Well, that could just have been a plan B failsafe that Luke thought of or, perhaps with some incredible (and probably impossible) CG trickery, we could have R2 arrive with Luke... To be honest I don't know why he didn't just walk in there wielding a lightsabre and say 'Jabba, hand over my friends or I'm gonna start slicing and dicing'. I mean, if it's gonna get messy, why wait till you are on the end of a plank over the sarlaac to then catch your lightsabre and start fighting. It's not like he was searched for weapons when he came in (he mind tricked the pig gaurds at the door and tried to fire Jabba with a blaster.... kinda dumb really).

I realise this is all Waaaayyy out ther, but I think it could work. I just don't know how to do it... but maybe you can at least use some of my ideas to take you down other paths of thought.
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#161052
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Ethics
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I can't either. I can imagine this guy 'vanishing' and winding up in some underground X-files laboratory getting his balls sliced open by government scientists while a grey alien watches through a two way mirror while smoking a cigarette.

Ok, maybe not, but yeah, you open the door on this case and it could get nasty. The guy's still being incredibly selfish though, but it is his right to be selfish, like it or not, and when my right to be selfish or grumpy or happy or sad or to argue with Sage about politics or to watch the original theatrical cut of star wars is taken away from me, I'm gonna be pissed (although we don't know all the details - it could be that he has this rare condition that causes a little bit of his penis to crumble away every time his blood is drawn, or, more likely, he may have religious reserves. Maybe he's one of those guys who believes that AIDS is sent by God to get rid of the gays and blacks and therefore science has no place interfering with God's worthy crusade against the 'unholy'. Who knows? But still, on the face of it it sounds very selfish. I think Rik hit the nail on the head - he's worried further tests will show that he is still HIV positive, and he doesn't want to face that. Understandable really, and while my morals and conscience would make me take the test and cooperate with the scientists, we have to respect this guy's right to not want to.