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CodySolo said:
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I would imagine this is just the film itself shifting toward red as it ages, right?

If all the other scenes in your trailer are also red, then yes. If all the other scenes in your trailer look nicely balanced, then no, but my money is on the former.

I have three 35mm trailers for Raiders, two from 1981 and one from the July 1982 re-release. The bar scene colors in all three trailers support the cooler color timing of the LPP. Each of the trailers is slightly different, and none of them have the exact frames we’ve been looking at (and I didn’t grab identical frames from each one), but clearly the whole scene was originally a lot less red than we are used to:

Trailer 1 (1981):

Trailer 2 (1982):

Trailer 3: (1981)

LPP (balanced - not matched - using Dre’s Color restoration tool) :

LPP as released:

WOWOW:

JEDIT: One more just for fun: WOWOW balanced - not matched - using Dre’s Color restoration tool):

peter_pan said:

DrDre said:

peter_pan said:

In practise you would use at least a 16-bit color image, which would prevent stair stepping, unless it is part of the original 35mm frame.

Pardon my ignorance, but what do you mean when you say “stair stepping”?

When you perform a color correction at a low color depth, the colors from one pixel to the next may resemble a step function, rather than a smooth transition.

Right, got you.
Can’t you have your time line set to a higher depth so that there is head space for the addition of the colour space?

I don’t think that would work in this case: If you take a frame from the blu-ray for example, which is 8-bit color, and you bring that into your After Effects timeline and set the color depth to 16 bit, it won’t magically double the number of colors in the image you imported.

The way I interpreted Dre’s comments was that the images he was working with were 8-bit color, and this is why the example images are not so good as they might be if he had 16-bit versions of the same images to play with.

This one?

(More here: http://www.cdcovers.cc/search/dvd/star-wars)

35MM SCOPE DOLBY LPP print on ebay right now: price on this keeps dropping. Was $750 a few days ago, $695 this morning and now it’s $650…

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5575033532&toolid=10001&campid=5337201588&customid=TrueLies35&icep_item=291822001914&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

16mm Goldfinger IB Tech (Reel 3 only):

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5575033532&toolid=10001&campid=5337201588&customid=Goldfinger16mmR3&icep_item=162123102676&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg
If you can win it, I can get it scanned, and then you can resell it…

I like it.

@Joshua724: At around 58 minutes, your dad talks about a cassette recording he made of the soundtrack for testing at home, and he says he “thinks we still have that”. Were you able to dig that up? I’m sure I’m not the only one here who would like to listen to it…

I have been testing the BETA of the new Color Balance tool and the results are very promising 😃

Sorry - typo fixed.

I love “making of” books and documentaries, so I wanted to share how I put the stars back in Star Wars, as some of you may find it useful or interesting:

http://thestarwarstrilogy.com/starwars/post/2016/07/07/Star-Wars-1981-Crawl-Restoration-Demo-part-1

Part 2 will be the pandown, which was relatively painless, part 3 will look at the Flyover, which as anyone who has attempted it will tell you is not easy at all, and part 4 will look at the Lucasfilm Ltd logo, Long Time ago title card and the Fox Logo, assuming I ever get around to editing the remaining hours of footage…

I love “making of” books and documentaries, so I wanted to share how I put the stars back in Star Wars, as some of you may find it useful or interesting:

http://thestarwarstrilogy.com/starwars/post/2016/07/07/Star-Wars-1981-Crawl-Restoration-Demo-part-1

Part 2 will be the pandown, which was relatively painless, part 3 will look at the Flyover, which as anyone who has attempted it will tell you is not easy at all, and part 4 will look at the Lucasfilm Ltd logo, Long Time ago title card and the Fox Logo, assuming I ever get around to editing the remaining hours of footage…

That SNL episode is on the usenet in 1080i and 720p (The whole show, that is). I’m grabbing both and can share just the sketch as lossless, or encode it to your specs.

Captain Solo, you are going to want to see this… The007Dossier takes a look at a 50 year old 35mm IB Technicolor print of Dr No:

http://www.the007dossier.com/007dossier/post/2016/07/01/James-Bond-in-Glorious-Technicolor

poita said:

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Hairy Hen, I’ve sent you a link for the raw audio capture of the mono version.

Thanks Poita!

dave88 said:

hairy_hen said:
If the original, uncompressed audio captures are still available (preferably at 24-bit if possible) and can be sent to me, I’d be willing to take a shot at cleaning them up.

That would be really cool

Yes it would. I’m still trying to get hold of the lossless version, it may take a couple of days.

Darth Lucas said:

NeverarGreat said:

yoda-sama said:

While yes, there may be a bit too much yellow (in the star destroyer, mostly), I think this might be about the best attempt yet.

I don’t think that there’s any getting away from the yellow in the star destroyer without making Tatooine too blue, unfortunately.

Unless one were to mask around the elements to adjust the colors independent of each other, which is commonly done in situations like this in professional restorations, but may go against the spirit of this project.

I don’t think it is against the spirit of the project. Recompositing elements from the bluray would be, but here we are just talking about isolating elements and color correcting them independently.

I can probably still get the PCM. I expect somebody on the team still has a copy. I’ll ask around.

pittrek said:

Thanks for the replies.
So, the mono mix sounds like a low bitrate mp3 because it was source from an mp3? 😃 Thanks for the link, I’ll get it asap.
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No, I was given a lossless WAV file which had already had Noise Reduction applied, and the “Raw” MP3. I don’t believe for a second that it was captured as an MP3 at 128 KB/s. I’m sure it was captured as PCM, and if I had asked for it I could have used that instead, but all I would have done would be apply a noise reduction using Adobe Audition by sampling the hiss, which probably would have been worse, so I just went with what they gave me.

Thanks Pittrek, we appreciate the feedback! Glad you are enjoying it.

To address your specific observations:

• I looked at a few retail seamless branching discs and noted that they all made the user select the branch as soon as the disc was loaded. For example Aliens Theatrical vs Special Edition pops up almost immediately, and Star Wars invites you to pick the language before proceeding to the main menu. So that was my reason for putting the choice there. Also, I had prepared 2 versions of the main menu and this gave me a way to use both. Another option I toyed with was to randomly choose a menu background.

• I was fortunate to have some help creating the menu backgrounds - while I added the Star Wars montage and the menu functionality, the actual backgrounds behind them were created entirely by Donny Versiga (http://rigel7studios.blogspot.com/).

• I would have liked to add a bunch of new Bonus features but I didn’t have any handy, and I really didn’t feel like creating any more menu pages. Plus, you are only allowed 16 MB of memory for the menu, and I was already using 14 MB so adding another page may have pushed it over the limit. (Originally I had only 5 chapter images per page, for a total of 10 scene selection pages, but that used 23 MB and the project would not build. It took weeks to re-do it all! Weeks that might have been spent working on new Special Features. Don’t worry, though, when Team Blu gets around to doing the next version of Star Wars, there will be a bunch of new Special Features to share.)

• You might be right about the space ship buttons.

• Ironically I only have a 128 kb/s MP3 version of the pre-noise Reduction mono mix capture, so I went with the WAV which had already had the NR applied. As I’ve said before, I’m not an audiophile but as far as I could tell the only difference was the background hiss… If you would like to hear the pre-noise reduction MP3 you can download it from here:

https://mega.nz/#!N5h3xTib!kZSkEIXAtybQ7b8lUdGKsowky1ARMu607RGmZgPdUvA

I should point out that the MP3 is not GOUT sync’d…

• I did not experience any issues with the droids in the Desert, did anyone else have that issue? You said you are using PowerDVD, perhaps your PC was just busy doing something else for a few seconds at that point?

Lone Star!

Will do…

Yeah, I agree. And this is why I leave color correction to others… the planet looks quite blue in my browser (on monitor #2) but it looks fine on monitor #1 in After Effects… How it looks to you and everybody else, is probably different again. (Two of my three monitors are supposed to be well calibrated, but who knows?)

voila!