These links are still working for me.
The main 4K77 print scan is a professional scan. The 4K83 and 4K80 prints we scanned using our own custom built film scanner. Poita’s Empire prints were professionally scanned, but we don’t have access to those scans yet.
Poita scanned this same Ep IV print on a professional grade film scanner, but never released anything beyond a few samples. He may have access to the other SE prints too, but if so (as far as I know) they have not yet been scanned.
Fang Zei said:
So a ‘97 35mm print of ANH was scanned, just not cleaned up?
Was this from Poita’s project?
No, this is our own scan of the same print.
What About Empire and Jedi?
Find us some prints and we’ll scan them.
There is one of Star Wars '97 A New Hope, available 1080p and UHD:
It’s been relisted
However the description says it is the whole movie but says it is only two reels. This is obviously not true, the movie is 6 reels.
It’s on 2 x 6000 foot reels. That’s the whole film. (Normally 6 x 2000’ reels)
Interesting that they can sell 4K80 even before it’s been finished or released! Maybe I should buy a copy to see how it turns out.
Spaceballs the Videotape!
Perhaps this is what you are looking for:
It recreates the laserdisc content (including the extra logos) using Bluray footage and laserdisc audio.
This thread is about the scanning of a theatrical release print, so, this version would be the theatrical cut.
I know of at least one cut that was made on all the British prints: the scene in Cuba after the plane crash where the Xenia slides down the rope and attacks Bond, the “good” girl tries to intervene and is grabbed by the bad girl and told to “wait your turn” before being pushed to the ground. That 10 seconds or so is not in any of the British prints. It is however in this print, so I believe this is the uncut version.
Great - thanks!
Can anybody here capture this?
I don’t know if this would be of any help, but I caught Highlander on TV and it was the theatrical cut, in widescreen and HD. It also has the shot of the cop spilling coffee on himself, and presumably has the unaltered effects shots at the end.
Cool. Did you record it? If not, what channel was it on and is it going to be on again anytime soon?
The screen I saw it on in '89 was at a small seaside town in the east of England. I seriously doubt it had a 70mm setup. In fact I know it didn’t because I just checked their website and it says “The 35mm projector used from 1988 to 2013 is now on display in the theatre cafe & gallery.” So, assuming I’m not mis-remembering, and this is not The Mandella Effect, it’s more likely that British prints may have the line, while those from other markets may not.
I remember the Jewish line too. (I first saw the film at a cinema in the UK in '89). However, I do have access to an original US Theatrical print and the line is censored on the print:
Those relatively flat audio lines on the optical track are where the word “Jewish” should be. This makes me wonder if all the US prints were censored from the beginning.
Here is the full clip:
If you change the delay to play the audio 20 frames (-833 ms ?) earlier to match the waveform printed on the film (since the sound head is further down inside the projector, in order to have picture and sound in sync during projection, the audio needs to be at the same point as the picture when the picture is in the gate. So the part of the optical track for this frame already passed through the gate 20 frames ago…) you can more easily see where the dialog is missing (you can check this by switching to audio track 2 in the provided clip).
Is there any link to the 1.3 windows 10 installer? I was able to use the 1.2 windows installer on my windows 7 PC but the program isn’t showing up after a fresh install on my windows 10 PC.
Williarob will be using Dre’s new correction for an update that will also replace many of the patched-in Blu-Ray frames with new 4K print scans (some from an LPP print, some from a 1997 SE print).
Will there be any frames used from the 4K Disney+ version or have they got all the frames from prints now?
In some instances, the bluray frames could not be color matched to the print. If there are no print sources for a frame and the D+ frames match better, then they will be used. But the goal is to minimize the amount of footage from non 35mm sources used in the 4Kxx projects.
Oohteedee already partially “despecialized” the D+ versions of ANH and ESB using 4K77 and 4K80 sources. (Most of the 4K80 footage he cleaned himself, since that’s not done yet) if that’s what you’re looking for. He calls them “D+77” and “D+80”. Hopefully a D+83 will follow in the not too distant future, and all three D+ projects will quickly be upgraded to use the physical media when that becomes available next month.
In 1971, the industry standard size of the aperture gate was changed from 2.35:1 to 2.39:1, slightly reducing the height. The reason for this was to hide those ugly laboratory splices:
which are very distracting when almost every single shot change gives you a white flash of glue at the top and bottom.
So, while on the film, the image is printed at 2.35:1 (after being unsqueezed), it would have been projected at 2.39:1.
However, with 4KXX we made every effort to clean these up, and the same is probably true of the official Blurays (Either that or they just cropped them out).
Sometimes they’re just too big for that aperture plate to hide:
But at 24 fps you barely notice these big blobs of glue.
The 1080p version is available ready to burn, with menus etc. Not much point creating an ISO for the 4K version, as most people can’t burn it, and those who can probably won’t be able to play it anyway.
If you reduce the bitrate far enough to fit it on a BD50, it may or may not play on your UHD player (most won’t). blank BD 100 M discs are not cheap, and many will not work on your stand alone UHD player.
Most UHD players have a USB input, and can play MKV files, so why not just put that file on an external drive or USB stick and plug that in? Why bother with burning a disc at all? Is it really worth all that extra effort just to see a menu and click play? The end result is exactly the same: you watch the movie on your TV.
If all you want is a case on the shelf, then print one out and stuff an SD card or USB stick inside it.
No, it did not.
I wonder what Mike Verta thinks of the 4k version on Disney+ and coming to UHD later this year, when compared to the product or progress of his work on Legacy.
He hated the colors of the Reliance Media restoration from which these new masters are sourced from. The raw SDR colors of the Disney+ look very similar to the RM (muted and washed out), but as DrDre pointed out on the 4K Restoration of Star Wars thread the HDR adds back a lot of color and looks far more saturated.
He discusses is here: https://vimeo.com/123475322
And here: https://vimeo.com/122877129
I think most of the links you’ll find now will be dead, so I posted a link to it here: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1302045/action/topic#1302045
Just wondering if a 1.4 with DNR was ever released. I’ve searched through some of the usual channels and had no luck. The restoration work regardless is a triumph, but I would prefer one with that color grading and a slightly smoother picture.
It’s possible I’ve never said it before, so congrats to Team -1 and Williarob. You have absolutely achieved commercial-grade work and we are all beyond grateful.
v1.0 No DNR used a single color correction per reel, which was just a white balance to the soundtrack or the sprocket holes. Sanjuro used that as the basis for his grade, so applying his grade to the original master was therefore very easy - my starting point was more or less the same as his.
However, when I did the DNR version, I started with a shot by shot color grade, this time trying to color balance each shot based on it’s content. So almost every single shot was given a new grade. After that I applied the DNR on a scene by scene (sometimes shot by shot) basis which took weeks. After that was done, it became obvious that the removal of all that noise made the remaing dust, dirt and scratches really stand out. So I spent another month cleaning the whole film frame by frame. Finally, I replaced about a dozen shots using a scan of the '97 SE print, or the alternate Tech, or the LPP instead of just the Bluray. These new inserts were color matched to the new grade, and DNR’d immediately, so they don’t currently exist in an original No DNR 1.o format.
So, given all of those changes, there is simply no way to just drop the DNR master file into Sanjuro’s project file and apply his grade - it just wouldn’t work - the input colors would be totally different, so the output colors would also be totally different.
So the only way to apply the Sanjuro grade to the DNR version is to do it shot by shot with Dre’s color matching tool OR go back to the original No DNR version 1.0 and start again with the months of work I already did. Neither of which appealed to me after 5 years of working on Star Wars. If you want to generate the 2000 LUTs required and a project that applies them to the DNR version, I’m happy to render it out for you using the original master file, but I just don’t have the time or the enthusiasm to do that myself.
Oohteedee has done some work on a new DNR version, starting with the original NoDNR 1.0, but really we have both been waiting for @DrDre to complete his own regrade of 4K77 so that we can apply that grade instead; and for some more sources to be available: e.g. the new official 4K blurays coming in March and our own rescan of the '97 SE print. Since DNR 1.0 was released, we also now have a 4K scan of the LPP, and some elements from another foreign print, all of which can be used to make improvements.
So. Eventually, there will be an updated DNR version with some new shots and a more consistent color grade, but it’s really not a priority at the moment, especially since we haven’t even finished a v1.0 of 4K80.
TOOT is a plugin for AVISynth: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=78338
I believe TOOT analyzes every pixel and whenever Two Out Of Three versions of the same pixel are the same and one is different, the one that is different will be ignored. That way, any random drop outs or anaomlies unique to each capture (and not on the original source) are removed.
So capturing the same disc 3 times, or capturing multiple copies of the same title can yield cleaner results. I haven’t used it in years, but I do have multiple copies of the same 16mm Moonraker TV Spot, which I plan to scan and run through TOOT to see how well it cleans them up. Obviously, unlike with laserdisc capture, the scans will need to be stabilized, color matched and aligned with each other before trying this, so that’s an extra step and may mean it can never find 2/3 matches… Worth a try though!