Thanks for the clarification! Is the version you’re referencing the “Star Wars: 4K77 v1.4” release I’m seeing floating around? Want to make sure I’m actually grabbing the version we’re discussing.
Yes, that’s the one.
Total noob question here. Is a regrade essentially just a frame by frame recoloring? So this is essentially a version of 4k77 that an editor has gone through and recolored frame by frame for consistency or whatever?
So the original 4k77 release was “as is” whereas you could view this a version of 4k77 that has had specifically the color “remastered”?
Thanks!
Yes, I think that sums it up quite nicely. This has indeed been remastered, because Sanjuro was kind enough to send me his project files, and I could therefore apply his new grade to the lossless master and generate a new version - which is better than what usually happens, where somebody takes the h.264/5 version and regrades that, resulting in a slight generational loss.
Not sure where else to post this.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1960s-James-Bond-16mm-Promotional-Films/264238076448
Are these on the DVD/Blu Ray extras?
Don’t know, but I’ll bid on it and see what happens…
Crunko said:
How do you make your cover appear on a Blu Ray case? Is it a program or legit photography?
The program is called Imandix Cover Pro (http://www.imandix.com/), The free version will add a watermark, but it only costs $19.
Ok, I’ll transfer it from the DVR later today…
Skyfall does appear to have been broadcast open matte:
Bluray:
SyFy:
Certainly a little more image top and bottom.
Not sure how useful it is though, obviously it runs 180 minutes with commercials, it has a logo in the corner, and may have been edited for television.
Would it be better to try and get it from Epix or Amazon Prime?
5.1 surround sound is the common name for six channel surround sound audio systems. It uses five full bandwidth channels and one low-frequency effects channel (the “point one”).
… this 16mm clip on eBay which I can’t afford: https://www.ebay.com/itm/16mm-IB-TECH-Film-CLIP-GOLDFINGER-1964-James-Bond-003-Now-with-DIAMONDS/113659583367
Yeah that’s been on the bay for a while now - $200+ for 33 seconds of footage! I keep waiting for the price to drop, but he seems to think that’s what it’s worth, and maybe it is, but I can’t afford it either.
It was actually quite fun - I’d never really tinkered with the inside of a VCR before - they were all too expensive back in the day, I didn’t want to break it (or accidentally electrocute myself!), but Q seems to know what he’s doing.
Thanks SilverWook, I contacted the CED Magic group on facebook and they checked three discs for me!
The results are in. Did that '82 Betamax tape or CED contain an uncut version?
This is some really nice work, and in record time! Congrats! I think your shot by shot can also be used as a great basis for further tuning to cater to each and everyone’s personal preferences. Here’s my little effort, starting from the last shot of the film. I personally feel the color grading could use a little warmth to bring it more in line with the technicolor references.
sanjuro_61:
DrDre:
I applied this adjustment to the two sets of sample frames I found:
It might need a little tuning here and there, to get to a final version (I see a few frames with some excess magenta), if there’s an interest, but you get the general idea.
Here’s the LUT:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hDo_XIiozzDanx5B1WAn-GuG31UwHlYW/view?usp=sharing
Cool - thanks Dre!
I was the only bidder on an auction for an '82 RCA CED of Dr No this weekend ($0.99) which I have sent to -1. His CED player (like most of them these days) is very hit and miss, and the discs can be equally troublesome, so there are no guarantees that he’ll be able to play it at all, but with a little luck he should be able to confirm or deny the existence of any deleted scenes on the disc.
Is 4K77 GOUT Synced?
Yes it is.
I wonder why it says “music recorded at…” BETWEEN the frames.
Yikes! Did prices on DTS theater discs just go up, or is this seller overestimating their value? I paid a mere pittance many years ago for the ones I have in my collection.
“Hey look - it says ‘Star Wars’ on it. You should sell that on eBay - it must be worth a fortune. Those collectors are nuts, they’ll pay any amount of money for something with Star Wars on it.”
Like this SE Trailer C for $400
So there is a 1.4 version out already? wow, i’m impressed, it feels just like yesterday it came out!
Not really - v1.4 is really just v1.1, but it took me four tries to get it right: There were compression artifacts and then there were missing frames, etc.
Williarob, you have a working CED player?
I don’t, but I think I know a man who does. -1 preserved the Star Wars trilogy CED set a few years ago, so I’m hoping he still has his player…
I just bought the LOT of 6 with the '82 Betamax tape in it and I’m having it shipped to somebody who can capture it for me. I seriously doubt it has any extended/uncensored scenes in it, but that’s okay too. It’s a win-win for me, as either way I get to write an article for my Bond site: Either I’ll have some extended/deleted scenes to share, or I can debunk the myth. I might as well grab an '82 CED as well and check that out while I’m at it.
Regarding the 35mm IB tech print you scanned… did the UA logo at the start fade to black, or did it cut to the opening gunbarrel sequence like the Bond films of the ‘70s?
This UA logo:
fades to black. Then this fades in:
The, letters vanish (probably they fade out, but there are frames missing, so it’s hard to tell) and the white circle is left to begin the gunbarrel sequence:
Also, somebody on this forum bought one of these '82 tapes and says it is censored the same as the rest, despite what is claimed in the MI6 thread:
http://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6662
Perhaps it is just a rumor started by somebody who wanted to jack up the price of his old VHS tape on eBay 😉
I’d still like to see the tape though, if only to debunk the rumour once and for all, so my offer to buy that lot still stands. (I believe the fact that the Dr No tape has a 20th Century Fox label, rather than a CBS/Fox label proves it is an '82 tape and not an '84)
According to this page:
http://melonfarmers.co.uk/hitscr.htm
“The cuts were presumably to the negative as was often the norm in the 60s, so cuts now persist to all prints worldwide.”
If that is true, then it is very unlikely that any of the 1980s video transfers would have this censored material.
I briefly owned and scanned an original 1962 35mm IB Tech print of Dr. No, and just took a look at it now: the cuts are exactly as described:
I’ll buy the 6 betamax tapes if somebody can capture them all for me. Just send me a PM so I know where to have them shipped.
The ISO version has DNR.
could frames from this print be useful to 4K80?
Yes I think having a scan of the SE would be very useful. It was certainly very useful when patching the missing and damaged frames in 4K77.
I have an After Effcts project file that mimics the OT subtitles you can use if you would like.
Wow that’s great I’m sure a TON of editors would appreciate this, If i were you I would send it to Adywan himself.
Yes, I’d love a copy of that project too.
