After seeing TLJ yesterday, this is my preliminary ranking:
ESB
SW
TFA
ROTJ
TLJ
R1
TPM
ROTS
AOTC
This may change after a second watch of TLJ.
You know, Aladdin.
I’m certainly interested if you’re willing to share, but that may lead to beggars, who will then steal to eat, and all those lyrics and whatnot.
Looks great! Hopefully someday I’ll be able to download it 😃
The original negative is conformed to the Special Edition, which was not fully digitized until the DVD master was made. However, Lucasfilm likely stored the pieces of the negative they removed, and they have recently been archiving every single piece of film and audio they have. So in a sense, the original negative has been digitized, but it’s not assembled or restored.
Do you know what resolution the negatives were digitized in? i.e. 1080P?
Really hope Lucasfilm has digitized all their OT recordings in the highest quality available. Things like music and sound effects, etc.
The stuff they’ve been archiving recently is most likely 4k, but who knows.
The thing I’m worried about is the original negative of the OT. Lucas said it was in terrible shape back in the early 90’s, i.e. fragile and pink colors, etc. So, I’m just wondering how they’d do a 4K scan on it 25 year later?
I still hope they at least try to do a 4K scan of all of the original pieces of the negative for the OT soon. I do believe they’d said that 4K scan they did recently was of the special edition. Whatever that means. Hopefully more comes out on that. As I know we all were hoping that 4K scan was of the pre-special edition stuff.
The negatives were restored to a degree before the special edition work began, so it should be in okay shape.
Do you know if that “restored” meant they were able to stop the film color fade? It’s my understanding the film stock Lucas used during that time period ended up being poor film stock. And thus the deterioration and bad color fade happened. Which is why the negative looked pink and thus resulted in extensive recoloring and things that people complain about.
At least in the case of the portions that were used for the special edition, yeah. Nobody outside of Lucasfilm has seen the pieces that were removed, but those are supposedly in horrendous condition.
The original negative is conformed to the Special Edition, which was not fully digitized until the DVD master was made. However, Lucasfilm likely stored the pieces of the negative they removed, and they have recently been archiving every single piece of film and audio they have. So in a sense, the original negative has been digitized, but it’s not assembled or restored.
Do you know what resolution the negatives were digitized in? i.e. 1080P?
Really hope Lucasfilm has digitized all their OT recordings in the highest quality available. Things like music and sound effects, etc.
The stuff they’ve been archiving recently is most likely 4k, but who knows.
The thing I’m worried about is the original negative of the OT. Lucas said it was in terrible shape back in the early 90’s, i.e. fragile and pink colors, etc. So, I’m just wondering how they’d do a 4K scan on it 25 year later?
I still hope they at least try to do a 4K scan of all of the original pieces of the negative for the OT soon. I do believe they’d said that 4K scan they did recently was of the special edition. Whatever that means. Hopefully more comes out on that. As I know we all were hoping that 4K scan was of the pre-special edition stuff.
The negatives were restored to a degree before the special edition work began, so it should be in okay shape.
The original negative is conformed to the Special Edition, which was not fully digitized until the DVD master was made. However, Lucasfilm likely stored the pieces of the negative they removed, and they have recently been archiving every single piece of film and audio they have. So in a sense, the original negative has been digitized, but it’s not assembled or restored.
Do you know what resolution the negatives were digitized in? i.e. 1080P?
Really hope Lucasfilm has digitized all their OT recordings in the highest quality available. Things like music and sound effects, etc.
The stuff they’ve been archiving recently is most likely 4k, but who knows.
I’m not even sure the camera sensors had a wide enough colorspace for HDR to be doable.
Could a modern colorist fake it?
The original negative is conformed to the Special Edition, which was not fully digitized until the DVD master was made. However, Lucasfilm likely stored the pieces of the negative they removed, and they have recently been archiving every single piece of film and audio they have. So in a sense, the original negative has been digitized, but it’s not assembled or restored.
For TPM, yeah. AOTC and ROTS were shot digitally at 1080p24.
Yeah. They could upscale the live action, and re render the cgi.
I don’t think they’d go through the trouble to do that. It would probably just ba an upscale.
Guys, we have a new winner for The Sword in the Stone!
The Amazon WEB-DL is 1080p, has no logo, and fewer artifacts than the best HDTVrips around; better bitrate too.
Where is this WEB-DL to be found? There are a few of them floating around on Usenet, and I’m not sure which one people think is the best. Any info would be appreciated. NeverarGreat and I are trying to track down the one mentioned earlier in the thread.
Amazon 😉
There was a GOUT reissue?
There was the 2008 trilogy box set.
I don’t think you can totally discount the fact that Star Wars as of yet hasn’t had even an inkling of a mention in any articles about the deal despite being fairly big news that Disney now holds the rights to ALL SW movies, probably one of their biggest and more profitable franchises alongside the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And the fact that news on Mike Verta’s restoration has also gone completely cold at the same time.
If Disney really are trying to keep the whole thing quiet in lieu of an official release in the near future then I highly doubt you are going to hear anything but denials via official and even most unofficial channels. They’ll have that shit locked down water tight…
I really don’t think Mike’s silence has anything to do with this. Most likely what’s happened with Legacy is they seized all assets related to the film, made him sign an NDA, and threw it all in the vault to be forgotten. Near the end Mike also seemed more interested in using it as a restoration proof of concept than an actual release. I doubt Legacy will ever see the light of day.
If George himself isn’t the problem, I think when the ultimate 4K box set comes out, we’ll probably get a quick-and-dirty HD scan of an interpositive or release print packaged with it as a special feature, a la the GOUT. Not the kind of loving restoration we’d hope for, but something. If he is, I don’t think anything will happen while he’s alive.
Honestly I think a quick and dirty scan would pacify most people, myself included.
I don’t think it has anything to do with George whatsoever. I think it’s lack of interest from Disney and within Lucasfilm. I do think if enough of a demand is present, they would do it. Unfortunately, with all of the new films coming out, the demand has been lessened.
Pablo Hidalgo on Twitter, just now:
[Pablo said:]
Good morning! What’s kept the original theatrical editions off of home video is the same thing that’s always been doing that. It’s not a studio thing.And for what it’s worth(asterisk), I’d love to have 'em.
(asterisk)it is worth nothing
If he’s implying that it’s George, I doubt he has any say. If it’s money, I could concede that.
If memory serves, the stuff everyone was looking forward to about the blu-ray bonus discs (deleted scenes, vintage docs) were very OT-centric, and this is back when George was still in charge!
That’s partly because the special features for the PT in the Complete Saga set are horrible. There is so many good features in the DVD releases it’s a damn shame they didn’t bring them over for the BD.
In case we’re still mass-reporting eBay pages, here’s another Despecialized page: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Star-Wars-Empire-Strikes-Back-Return-of-the-Jedi-LIMITED-EDITION-BLU-RAY/152816139813?epid=48505335&hash=item23948d3e25:g:2YAAAOSwz~paJrfM
UPDATE: working on HP8 right now… so far:
- Nova 1080p and Freeform 720p are now in sync
- Nova delogo’ed would be used to replace missing frames from Space and/or TVA
- first scene seems good now
example: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/125590
test clip: https://mega.nz/#!AWpETbpB!ZPDy4HW77BGiR...4b2uFp6bKo- Nagini scene with French subtitles, now they are in English
example: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/125583
test clip: https://mega.nz/#!hGx01ZJQ!jCWnoX3hhybIU...1iLLNP648UPlease, check both test clips and let me know what do you think about!
You’ve got some sort of artifact in the first scene where the part of a tree on the left side of the frame shifts.
I just hope Disney pulls the plug on EA’s Star Wars license in the future. I’d love to see a new KOTOR from BioWare (or a new RPG from CD Projekt Red).
I’ve lost what little hope I had for a KotOR 3. Even with EA owning Bioware, having exclusive rights to the Star Wars license, KotOR being made available on Xbone and KotOR 2 having a massive update a year or two ago on steam. Setting aside that the game series is over a decade old and it’s no longer considered “canon”, what really made me lose hope was EA shutting down Visceral because of the “linear single player” Star Wars game they were developing. I still had hope. After seeing Deus Ex get a sequel after over a decade I had hope for KotOR, but no longer. It’s a shame because it is one of the finest role-playing experiences out there along with Ultima Underground, The Elder Scrolls chapter 2: Daggerfall and Baldur’s Gate.
OMG I need
CD project redBethesda to work on a Star Wars game that would be amazing
That would basically just be Fallout 4.
Also, never buy it. Fan projects are never to be bought or sold. See these thread for details:
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Despecialized-Edition-HD-V27-MKV-IS-OUT-NOW/id/12713
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Dealing-with-People-Selling-Fan-Projects/id/56133/page/1
Just to clarify Althor you are correct the 97 SE were cropped from the original 2:35:1 ratio as evident on the SE LD trilogy. Especially Star Wars. It was a tighter crop more likely to be 2:20. Watching these reels really shows the potential and what could be. Agree that once complete this will blow away the Blu ray.
I think the cropping was a mastering error exclusive to the Laserdiscs, nut the intended theatrical ratio.
WOW those are obvious.
Jake had done some conventions before his current mental health problems caught up with him.
They wear thongs out in the desert? All that Tatooine sand trapped between the toes and under the nails…
Thongs with jeans look so bad.
Are thongs and sandals the same thing? I’m totally lost here.
Oh right, in America you call those skimpy underwear bottoms thongs. Weirdos. I think that what we normal people call thongs you call “flip-flops.”
Probably because the underwear looks like sandals for your butt.
I’m glad EA is receiving this amount of ridicule although these problems extend beyond EA in scope. Microtransactions, lootboxes are a cancer to video games.
I don’t have a problem with loot boxes that are randomly dropped, are free to open, and contain only cosmetic items (i.e., Overwatch).
