A LOOOOOOOOTT more than the BDs in some cases.
…why?
That’s nothing compared to those who think the Diamond Edition Disney tapes are worth something: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beauty-and-the-Beast-VHS-1992-Walt-Disneys-Black-Diamond-Classic-/182452425052?hash=item2a7b03115c:g:yUEAAOSwTuJYn95x
This article is comical. What does it even mean that the effects won’t hold up in HD? Does the author realize that for its first few years, Star Wars was only available in better-than-HD quality? (I.e. Film)
Yeah, that article pissed me off.
I don’t think Fox hates Marvel. Their X-Men/Deadpool movies are doing just fine.
I hope that they release this SE alongside the OUT, but they should absolutely make no further changes. Unlike releasing the OUT, that actually would be an insult to George. I just want to see the 2011s with a proper master and color.
As for cleaning up effects in the OUT, I really doubt it. My guess is that the LOC scan was a reference for making sure no changes were accidentally ported over, as well as being a color reference.
Yes
One thing Bill Hunt disregards in his latest post is that an OOT restoration might not be based on the o-neg.
It could be that, like Blade Runner, the o-neg will be used for the current version but other sources (like interpositives and separation masters) could be used for the unaltered versions. This would still produce something much better looking than any fan-restoration could hope to achieve with a 35mm print.
He also specifically mentions that they have no 4k restoration, which could mean that they have something at a lower resolution.
I’m still holding out hope that they’ll at least comment on it during the panel. If all they have to announce is a 4k SE, who will really care? I mean, sure it will be better for fan preservations, but i don’t think the general public will care all that much.
For those of us sorry sad sacks without BluRay burners, what resources do we have for obtaining nice copies on printable media? I’d love help if anyone has an extra disc!
Thanks, Todd
The ACVHD versions can be burned to DVD9s.
Cinefex Issue 151: Page 76
Quote: “As a template for the reconstruction, Knoll referenced a 4K scan of the original release, which contained 25 seconds of the Cuba graphic.”Page 53
Quote: “On his first days at ILM, Edwards joined Knoll and key staff members to begin deconstructing their source material. “We sat in the cinema to watch the restoration of A New Hope,” said Edwards”
Cuba graphic?
I’m just going to let cognitive dissonance take over and say that he could also be trying to deflect to make the surprise more impactful.
I doubt that Disney or Lucasfilm would ever release Mike Verta’s project.
I’d love to see Verta’s project, but I’m not sure I want to see it as the official release. It looks better than the original film did, and I just want to see a good restoration of the original matte work from Lucasfilm.
Huh? Mike Verta’s project is a restoration of the original film. What else would you want?
This video is an example of the kind of subtle enhancements he’s doing that go beyond restoration:
https://vimeo.com/117582796The original shot carries a lot of artifacts of the special effects process, going through the optical printer several times. The flickering, jittering X-wings are are rotoscoped to get an impressive smooth motion. It’s accurate to the original intent — but arguably isn’t accurate to the original film.
Verta has said he’s comfortable “fixing” things he considers production mistakes, like garbage mattes. “I plan elminating everything that changes the drama, ruins the suspension of disbelief, or alters the characters. Things like Darth Vader’s missing saber glow were simply production missteps, and are not crucial to the drama. Ditto with the “garbage mattes” seen around various ships, or the off-color blobs seen below the landspeeder. I have no problem seeing them fixed.”(http://www.starwarslegacy.com/archive/site/pages/FAQ.html)
He may have changed his goals since then, and I haven’t followed the project too closely, so please correct me if I have the wrong idea.
That was the original fan-edit Legacy. He has since switched to a full on restoration. And to Frink, I don’t know. Just based off pf rumors and timing it seems unlikely that they are using Legacy for a release. Most likely it’s the RMW scan or something similar.
I’d say this most recent rumor, coupled with the fact that Mike Verta has practically dropped off the face of the earth, is probably a good sign.
I think that’s unrelated.
All I know is that it’s going to be an agonizing 7 weeks until the panel.
Yes but unfortunately your opinion is wrong, as evidenced by the fact that you would watch the SE for any other reason than analysis.
I’m obviously just being silly, so don’t be offended. Or do, I don’t care.
Silliness is an offense not taken lightly. 😉
Nope 😛
And that’s why we have opinions.
I will admit that the 97 se does sound really good… But honestly the 93 (and by extension 95 as it’s the same) mix is even better. Don’t let the lack of discrete channels fool you, turn on your pro logic and you’ll have in my opinion the best sound star wars has ever had, including the blu rays.
I just have a soundbar, so I can’t really take advantage of either discrete channels or Pro Logic. The standard Dolby Surround track on the 97 sounds better than that on the 95 discs.
The way that this article is framed doesn’t point towards Last Jedi stuff, which I’m sure will be there, but in this context it seems like an OT-related thing.
It’s in reference to the SW 40th Anniversary panel, so that alone is promising. I’m also glad that they’re front-loading the panel, that way we know day one if it’s happening, or if they mention some more specific announcements later down the road.
I’ve seen the SE, I don’t see how watching it in lower quality would make me like it better. If you’re into laserdisc that’s fine, but seeing as there are plenty of high quality (for laserdisc anyway) OOT releases to choose from I can’t see watching a laserdisc and still going for the SE.
I also have the Faces discs, and plan to pick up TPM. I want to own each version in the highest official quality, and the Laserdiscs of the 97 represent just that. They also sound really, really good.
So you’re willing to resort to laserdisc and still watch the SE sometimes, even on laserdisc? That’s gotta be a jailable offence 😛
Don’t knock it till you try it!
skywalkerfan101 said:
One of my inspirations was, of all places, was one of the Star Trek BD Sets.I was about to say…
I’m probably not going to use them. The end result will most likely be the previously posted set.
Don’t get me wrong, there’s nothing wrong with them.
skywalkerfan101 said:
One of my inspirations was, of all places, was one of the Star Trek BD Sets.
I was about to say…
Well, wish and hope if you want. I’m not going to begrudge you that. But maybe busting Disney’s balls a little after 5 freaking years, especially the way Lucas was criticized, might be a little more productive than everyone just shrugging their shoulders and closing their eyes.
Yeah, I’m sure the only thing that is preventing the release of the OOT is that there aren’t enough people criticizing Disney in this one random thread.
Maybe now’s a good time to get a petition going again.
What will this be, number 3? 4?
Also I want to point out something that was posted on Home Theater Forum:
Apparently, Pablo Hidalgo posted on twitter that the 4k print of Star Wars seen by Gareth Edwards was in fact…
…the Special Edition.
Pablo Hidalgo isn’t in the know about every facet of Lucasfilm.
I sometimes watch the SE’s too.
Why?
For the heck of it. I watched Empire out of curiosity and found it surprisingly watchable. The Laserdiscs and look great (for Laserdisc) and sound absolutely incredible. I also find them interesting from both an historical and technological standpoint.
I thought it was a fun bit the first time he fired the bowcaster. We had never seen it before and it made sense in the context of the situation
Chewie uses it in ROTJ to take out a speeder bike. And I can’t believe Han never in 40 years asked to shoot it.
I meant that we never saw Han use it before TFA, so it was fun to see it for the first time in TFA.
And I can believe Han would go that long without using it, there was (presumably) never a reason for him to do so. Judging by the original trilogy, none of them ever got shot (except Leia and Luke once each in ROTJ).
In my opinion that was the weakest part of the film. It was just cheesy and out of place in the battle.
I didn’t like it but it’s such a minor thing I wouldn’t call it the weakest part of the film. I’d save that for Starkiller base…or maybe for the destruction of the Hosnian system.
Those made sense in context; this just took me out of the movie. And the Rathtars.