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Warbler

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#1134840
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

ray_afraid said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

The link text pretty much says it all, but you can google it if you want, there’s other sites reporting on it.

Then again maybe we should just leave deer alone and not kill for fun.

Nobody should ever kill for fun, bit there’s good reason for deer season.

perhaps, but again it should only happen in designated areas and everyone going in such areas should be required to the orange reflective material and also hunts should only shoot when they are sure they are firing at a dear and not a human.

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#1134821
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

The link text pretty much says it all, but you can google it if you want, there’s other sites reporting on it.

Idiot. Shot her after sunset and in New York State, it is illegal to hunt after midnight. The husband of the victim also said she was shot on their neighbor’s property and this guy did not have permission to hunt there. If people are going to hunt, it should only be in designated areas that are clearly marked and everyone entering such designated areas should be required to wear those reflective vests, so humans can’t be mistaken for deer. Then again maybe we should just leave deer alone and not kill for fun. Then again, idiots shouldn’t have guns.

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#1134660
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

yhwx said:

This is what happens without net neutrality.

https://twitter.com/catvalente/status/932678730065031168

With Net Neutrality gone, the flow of information will be controlled on a level people just aren’t thinking about yet.

Imagine the lowest priced net service including only Breitbart, RT, Infowars, TrumpTV, Fox News, basic email & Facebook.

It’ll happen.

https://twitter.com/Tom_Nikl/status/933080543352070144

Let me explain net neutrality in the most horrific way:

if FCC dismantles it, and you get internet from Verizon, they may force you to use YAHOO as your search engine (because they own it), but PAY to use GOOGLE.

Would you like that? If not, you SUPPORT #NetNeutrality.

none of that seems desirable.

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#1134293
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

yhwx said:

TV’s Frink said:

oojason said:

I suggest we leave it there and get back onto politics again.

I lied, I’m going to post in here again, but not on the subject of the last several pages.

So with that said, enjoy…POLITICS!!!

http://www.tmz.com/2017/11/22/texas-congressman-joe-barton-nude-sexting-twitter/

Texas Congressman Joe Barton sent nudes and illicit text messages to a woman, and he’s apologizing for the graphic image first revealed by a Twitter user.

Barton, a Republican, sent the nude photo showing his penis. The Twitter user censored the image, and also revealed a sext that reads, “I want u soo bad. Right now.”

Ready? I’m spoilering this. You can’t actually see anything, in fact it’s covered up quite a bit…but just to be safe, because you can’t say I didn’t warn you.

Ugh. Disgusting.

agreed.

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#1134292
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

chyron8472 said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

chyron8472 said:

yhwx said:

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

chyron8472 said:

If I may, since we’re arguing equality, why does the culture tell us men shouldn’t like cartoons originally targeted toward female children?

Oh great. I don’t know why I’m addressing this, but that has nothing to do with equality.

It has to do with people arguing that some people should like certain things, while other people should not like other things because [insert reason].

chyron8472 said:

In my view tolerance and equality are similar beasts, approaching the same argument from opposite angles.

Women apparently should like Star Wars more than they do. And it’s our job (and Star Wars’ job) to tell them they should…why? Just let them like it or not. If they don’t, then they don’t.

We need to create a cultural environment, both explicitly and impicitly, where’s okay for women to like Star Wars.

On these forums: Yes, we should.

In society at large: …We don’t? What does the culture do to shun women for liking Star Wars?

It’s more subtle, systematic, and implicit than that. While there are explicit examples of these deeper norms, it’s more of a pervasive problem that surfaces subtly. It’s hard to notice, but it’s there. Sometimes women aren’t exposed as much to these things. Sometimes it’s a gentle force steering them away. It’s like the norm that blue is for boys and that pink is for girls. There’s no biological reason for that; in fact, there was a time where the opposite was true. It’s just that there are societal norms embedded in culture that we are exposed to since the time we are born. It doesn’t have to be so explicit.

sounds like a conspiracy theory. Nah, I think I will stick with men and women having different brains and different hormones and it sometimes causes them to have different tastes in things.

Do you believe in institutional racism? If you do, it’s an issue with that sort of scale. It only sounds like a conspiracy theory because you haven’t thought about the issue enough and projected the situations other people might live in.

You assume that the female and/or attitude toward “nerdy” entertainment choices are the result of subversive institutional sexism.

I do not believe this to be the case.

Warbler said:

read oojason’s post.

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#1134263
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

yhwx said:

oojason said:

My head actually hurts reading the last few pages.

Is it too much to ask that members think and then explain their opinions and thoughts… instead of seemingly posting whatever first comes to mind for the rest of us to suffer?

 

I suggest we leave it there and get back onto politics again.

I know that I’m going to be disrespecting a moderator and will probably be disciplined for it, but I have to say this.

This is what people have doing with discussions about women’ issues for decades. “Could we just move on to something else?” This is the attitude that caused all the cover-ups of sexual harassment. It’s a kind of erasure. No, we cannot move on. This is important stuff, and people need to realize it. People need to realize the nature of our society and our culture. While I have found this discussion inane, it’s still important. I just hope after enough times, people will finally get it. Maybe I’m a bit too optimistic.

oojason said:

If anyone wants to start a thread on females and Star Wars or sci-fi / culture - feel free - it’ll hopefully be a lot better than what has appeared in here today.

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#1134253
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

yhwx said:

chyron8472 said:

yhwx said:

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

chyron8472 said:

If I may, since we’re arguing equality, why does the culture tell us men shouldn’t like cartoons originally targeted toward female children?

Oh great. I don’t know why I’m addressing this, but that has nothing to do with equality.

It has to do with people arguing that some people should like certain things, while other people should not like other things because [insert reason].

chyron8472 said:

In my view tolerance and equality are similar beasts, approaching the same argument from opposite angles.

Women apparently should like Star Wars more than they do. And it’s our job (and Star Wars’ job) to tell them they should…why? Just let them like it or not. If they don’t, then they don’t.

We need to create a cultural environment, both explicitly and impicitly, where’s okay for women to like Star Wars.

On these forums: Yes, we should.

In society at large: …We don’t? What does the culture do to shun women for liking Star Wars?

It’s more subtle, systematic, and implicit than that. While there are explicit examples of these deeper norms, it’s more of a pervasive problem that surfaces subtly. It’s hard to notice, but it’s there. Sometimes women aren’t exposed as much to these things. Sometimes it’s a gentle force steering them away. It’s like the norm that blue is for boys and that pink is for girls. There’s no biological reason for that; in fact, there was a time where the opposite was true. It’s just that there are societal norms embedded in culture that we are exposed to since the time we are born. It doesn’t have to be so explicit.

sounds like a conspiracy theory. Nah, I think I will stick with men and women having different brains and different hormones and it sometimes causes them to have different tastes in things.

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#1134250
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

chyron8472 said:

DominicCobb said:

chyron8472 said:

DominicCobb said:

chyron8472 said:

DominicCobb said:

chyron8472 said:

DominicCobb said:

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

Yes, there are female Star Wars fans, but not as many as there are male Star Wars fans.

You should have said that from the beginning.

Regardless, you might ask yourself why.

Why are there more female fans of Sex in the City than there are male fans? Why were there more male fans of American football than there are female fans? Men and women sometimes have different tastes.

The latter is another one that you’re not quite as right as you think you are on. Rabid football fans are split almost evenly between men and women these days.

But is it a problem if more men than women like Star Wars?

Why should it be?

There’s no reason why Star Wars should appeal more to men than women

You don’t know that.

Star Wars is a universal story about good vs. evil, hope vs. despair, and selflessness vs. selfishness.

Honestly tell me why should Star Wars appeal to men more than women?

You boil the story down to that to suit your argument, but there’s more to the films than just that.

Yes but that’s what they’re about. There’s nothing inherent about “Star Wars” that should be more suited to a man than a woman. The films aren’t about the male experience specifically, nor should they be. They should be for everyone.

You might say, well the OT only has Leia and then only a couple very minor female roles. To which I say yes, that is definitely a problem with the OT.

It is not the job of Star Wars to cater to all.

Why the fuck not? What is it about Star Wars that requires it to cater to straight white dudes only? Star Wars is supposed to be a universal story about the human experience.

Does it cater to straight white dudes only? Who says it does? Is it required to? Who says it is? The culture? Which part? Mainstream?

You’re telling me mainstream culture tells us Star Wars is for straight white dudes and nerds only?

Didn’t you if any woman enters a movie theater where a Star Wars movie is playing, she must be kicked out? They are also banned from buying the toys and blu-rays and other Star Wars merchandise. They also aren’t allowed on any Star Wars forums.

oh wait, I just remembered none of that is true. I guess women are perfectly free to be Star Wars fans if they want and many of their own free will choose not to.