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#1156305
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

ray_afraid said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

But seriously, why are we actually discussing Oprah being elected? Why is anyone anywhere discussing it?

She made a big and inspiring speech.

meh.

Pfft. Good grief.

I just didn’t think it was that great or that moving. On a side note, I think I’d rather have someone just say thank you to whomever they feel need to be thanked when winning an award like a Golden Globe or an Oscar, instead of making a political speech. But that is just me.

It was a lifetime achievement award.

and not a victory speech after winning election to public office.

Have you even seen the speech?

yes.

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#1156292
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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CatBus said:

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

ray_afraid said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

But seriously, why are we actually discussing Oprah being elected? Why is anyone anywhere discussing it?

She made a big and inspiring speech.

meh.

Pfft. Good grief.

I just didn’t think it was that great or that moving. On a side note, I think I’d rather have someone just say thank you to whomever they feel need to be thanked when winning an award like a Golden Globe or an Oscar, instead of making a political speech. But that is just me.

And everyone thinks their ideas sound perfectly reasonable.

Well, what if someone gave you the chance to talk to the entire nation? What if that chance kept coming up again and again, and your views never lost their urgency?

Going to take a shower now. Just realized in retrospect that I briefly entered the mind of the Donald.

You’re going to need more than a shower, you’re going to need decontamination.

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#1156291
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

ray_afraid said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

But seriously, why are we actually discussing Oprah being elected? Why is anyone anywhere discussing it?

She made a big and inspiring speech.

meh.

Pfft. Good grief.

I just didn’t think it was that great or that moving. On a side note, I think I’d rather have someone just say thank you to whomever they feel need to be thanked when winning an award like a Golden Globe or an Oscar, instead of making a political speech. But that is just me.

It was a lifetime achievement award.

and not a victory speech after winning election to public office.

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#1156290
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

Oprah appeals to the more liberal minded people. But if you want Trump gone, we need someone that will appeal to the moderate and conservative-light people. Obviously the liberals are going to vote for the Democrat whoever it is. But the moderates and conservative-light people need to be won over.

Alternatively, and probably more easily; get someone that actually excites the liberal base—get the non-voters to go out and vote. Going right isn’t always, or even usually, the answer.

the liberals alone can’t elect a President.

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#1156289
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

ray_afraid said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

But seriously, why are we actually discussing Oprah being elected? Why is anyone anywhere discussing it?

She made a big and inspiring speech.

meh.

Pfft. Good grief.

I just didn’t think it was that great or that moving.

What was it about, Warbler?

Racism, sexism, sexual harassment/assault, “me too”, advancement of African Americans and women, etc.

And yes, we know how you feel when people use their available platform to advance a cause.

sorry.

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#1156270
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

ray_afraid said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

But seriously, why are we actually discussing Oprah being elected? Why is anyone anywhere discussing it?

She made a big and inspiring speech.

meh.

Pfft. Good grief.

I just didn’t think it was that great or that moving. On a side note, I think I’d rather have someone just say thank you to whomever they feel need to be thanked when winning an award like a Golden Globe or an Oscar, instead of making a political speech. But that is just me.

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#1156268
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

As though his opinion is somehow superior to mine.

No, it’s not my opinion. It’s Nate Silver’s opinion, and yes it’s superior to yours, no question.

By the way, this does not make you an idiot. I never said that and I’m not implying it.

You may not intend it, but sometimes the way you talk and your wisecracks and comebacks and what not make it seem like you think the person you are arguing with is an idiot. I have have felt this way after several arguments/debates with you. Just saying.

I did not say he’s an idiot and I don’t think he’s an idiot. Nor do I think you’re an idiot. You guys can choose to believe me or not.

I’m am just saying it is how you come across sometimes.

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#1156257
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

As though his opinion is somehow superior to mine.

No, it’s not my opinion. It’s Nate Silver’s opinion, and yes it’s superior to yours, no question.

By the way, this does not make you an idiot. I never said that and I’m not implying it.

You may not intend it, but sometimes the way you talk and your wisecracks and comebacks and what not make it seem like you think the person you are arguing with is an idiot. I have have felt this way after several arguments/debates with you. Just saying.

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#1156240
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

To say she can’t possibly win is silly. Anyone with 100% name recognition and tons of money has the possibility to win. I wouldn’t think she’s the favorite but of course she’d have a chance.

On 538’s podcast yesterday they reranked their likely Dem nominees for 2020 based on this Orpah “news.” Nate Silver placed her 5th, ahead of Doug Jones and Bernie Sanders.

Sorry but I trust Nate Silver more than you.

Who is 1st?

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#1155972
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

I will have to do some research on this Kamala Harris.

I think the road for her was (ominously) mapped out by Al Gore and Hillary Clinton. She is on many occasions doomed to be the smartest person in the room. Gore tripped over that by seeming too eager to crush his neophyte opponent in a debate. Clinton (I felt) successfully managed to walk the line between being strong and knowledgeable without showing any drive to kneecap her opponent just because he didn’t know how to defend himself, preferring to let him hang himself instead.

That’s the trap of an Oprah candidacy IMO. If Kamala does anything that seems mean to Oprah, it’s over. She’s got to get that tough but fair balance just right.

If Kamala is the smartest person in the room, I view that as a big plus. I want the President to be the smartest in the room.

Depends who else is in the room.

?

Elizabeth Warren is sharp.

I don’t think smartness is enough anyway, as smart people can be dishonest, corrupt, and shrill.

I said smart, but I didn’t say that is all that mattered. Obviously being honest and not corrupt is important also.

But there are plenty of intelligent people.

Unfortunately the one in the Oval Office right now is not.

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#1155967
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

Warbler said:

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

I will have to do some research on this Kamala Harris.

I think the road for her was (ominously) mapped out by Al Gore and Hillary Clinton. She is on many occasions doomed to be the smartest person in the room. Gore tripped over that by seeming too eager to crush his neophyte opponent in a debate. Clinton (I felt) successfully managed to walk the line between being strong and knowledgeable without showing any drive to kneecap her opponent just because he didn’t know how to defend himself, preferring to let him hang himself instead.

That’s the trap of an Oprah candidacy IMO. If Kamala does anything that seems mean to Oprah, it’s over. She’s got to get that tough but fair balance just right.

If Kamala is the smartest person in the room, I view that as a big plus. I want the President to be the smartest in the room.

Depends who else is in the room.

?

There are lots of smart people in the world. Not all the candidates are fielded yet. We may get to choose among multiple well-informed, articulate, competent candidates… in the Democratic primary. Kamala Harris has a lot of chatter but she hasn’t even declared yet. Who knows who else might be in the mix by 2020? There could easily be better choices than her… in the Democratic primary.

That doesn’t change the fact that I would like the President to be the smartest person in the room. The Presidency isn’t for dummies.

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#1155964
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Mrebo said:

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

CatBus said:

The reason lack of political experience is only a giant red flag and not a disqualification is delegation. The President does not need to know how to do everything – they only need to be smart enough to know who knows how to do things, and delegate accordingly. I’d be fine with an amateur pitching in the Word Series if they could delegate the pitching duties to someone else, as long as I trusted their judgment about who that person might be.

That said, it’s still a giant red flag. I’m not excited about the prospect.

The Presidency is more than just delegation of duties.

Which is exactly why it’s a giant red flag if a candidate has no political experience.

As said on a conservative blog:

More than anything, what sustains him is the sense — true or not — that he’s outsourced his actual duties to more responsible actors. Ryan and McConnell write the bills; Mattis, McMaster, Kelly and the generals coordinate foreign policy. Occasionally POTUS pops up to say something provocative about North Korea or NATO’s obsolescence or a trade war with China but mostly he seems consumed with live-tweeting Fox News and settling grudges.

Can can’t outsource the final decision on whether a bill gets signed into law or not. He can’t outsource the final decision when comes to military action. He can’t outsource the nuke button.

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#1155963
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Jeebus said:

CatBus said:

yhwx said:

The BernieBros don’t like Harris though.

The BernieBros don’t even like Bernie. They’re just there to sink Democrats.

EDIT: I should add that I’m an actual Bernie primary voter (not just someone who plays a Bernie supporter on the Internet to peddle pro-Trump conspiracy theories) and sure Harris is more conservative than I’d like but so are most people. If we could have stopped fascism in the 1930’s merely by voting for less-than-perfect candidates, I’d have jumped at the chance. I would gladly vote for Romney or Bush Sr. if I thought it would stop the rise of white supremacy.

I agree with this. If it’s Kamala vs Trump, I’d definitely vote for her. I’m just a little skeptical of her commitment to the things she says. If a Medicare-For-All bill lands on her desk, will she approve it; or is her support of Medicare-For-All strictly to win votes?

here is the thing: She might sign it. You know Trump will never sign it.

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#1155962
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

Mrebo said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

I’m just curious, other than not being Trump, what qualifications does Oprah have for being President?

Being Oprah.

I agree with Jeebus and CatBus but I think this is a good answer.

What qualifications does Warbler have for being President?

Being Warbler.

What qualifications does Frink have for being President?

Being Frink.

What qualifications does Mrebo have for being President?

Being Mrebo.

😦

I’m pretty sure both yhwx and Mrebo were joking, though.

Yhwx

It’s lowercase.

The rules grammar indicate that the first letter of someone’s name be capitalized.

It’s not a proper first name. It’s an online username.

It still seems like it should be capitalized, to me.