Warbler

Mocata said:

Maybe Yoda is just that strong even in death. Maybe being dead for 30 years powered him up. Maybe the temple location gives him more energy. Maybe it’s just a thing that wanted to do for fun and Obi-wan takes things too seriously. Maybe the the question isn’t why can he do this out of nowhere, but why shouldn’t he? There are so many options in a magical space fantasy and

again the movie never explains why Yoda can and Obiwan can’t. It never explains that it takes 30 years for him to be able to do what he did.

again I say don’t you think it would have been nice if Yoda after he died in ROTJ made an appearance in the Emperor’s throne room and zapped Palpatine? Oh yeah it takes 30 years to be able to do that but the movie doesn’t explain that.

people are arguing over the supposed rules, again.

excuse me for wanting the Star Wars universe to make sense, and not liking plotholes/continuity errors.

dahmage said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

So tell me something, just who was Luke’s equal in the dark side in the OT? As one rises in one side of the force, another rises on the opposite side, right? It couldn’t have been Vader, he rose to power a lot early in the PT and he didn’t get more powerful as Luke got more powerful. Also if that idea is true, there should have been a lot more dark jedis around during the PT, one for every jedi.

not really. I understood that line to have more to do with their being no existing light side users for the force to balance against, so it all manifested in one place. If Luke wasn’t cut off from the force, i think things would have been different.

that is not how I read it all.

Also, its all made up stuff anyway.

I’m sorry, but there is no reason to say this.

1. we all know that

2. that could excuse any continuity error/plot hole in any fiction.

3. it being true, doesn’t mean the fiction universe shouldn’t make sense.

4. its lame to say it

I agree with this. If it’s “all made up stuff anyway,” then why should we discuss it? There’s no reason to discuss the details of any fiction if you accept that excuse.

you do realize that i added the ‘and its all made up anyway’ as a mostly throw-away joke after my answer? But i guess lets focus on that. sorry if Warb felt i was insulting him, i wasn’t.

I did not realize it was a joke. sorry. But I didn’t think you were insulting me.

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

So tell me something, just who was Luke’s equal in the dark side in the OT? As one rises in one side of the force, another rises on the opposite side, right? It couldn’t have been Vader, he rose to power a lot early in the PT and he didn’t get more powerful as Luke got more powerful. Also if that idea is true, there should have been a lot more dark jedis around during the PT, one for every jedi.

not really. I understood that line to have more to do with their being no existing light side users for the force to balance against, so it all manifested in one place. If Luke wasn’t cut off from the force, i think things would have been different.

that is not how I read it all.

Also, its all made up stuff anyway.

I’m sorry, but there is no reason to say this.

1. we all know that

2. that could excuse any continuity error/plot hole in any fiction.

3. it being true, doesn’t mean the fiction universe shouldn’t make sense.

4. its lame to say it

In ESB, Obiwan says that if Luke goes to face Vader he will face him alone, “I can not help you”. But look what Yoda did in TLJ. Sure seems like Obiwan could have lent a hand now.

different people. different circumstances.

um no, same universe. same force. Either force ghosts can do what Yoda can do in TLJ or they can’t. Unless you the movie explains how the force somehow changed and now force ghosts can do things they couldn’t do before. But no explanation was giving.

Also, all made up.

read what I wrote above about that.

just because one force ghost does something, doesn’t mean all can. and even if all can, doesn’t mean all will.

different people. different circumstances.

Well it would be nice if the movie explained why one can and other can’t. It doesn’t do that.

adywan said:

Warbler said:

In ESB, Obiwan says that if Luke goes to face Vader he will face him alone, “I can not help you”. But look what Yoda did in TLJ. Sure seems like Obiwan could have lent a hand now.

He says “If you chose to face Vader, you will do it alone. I cannot interfere” . This wasn’t that he couldn’t do anything, but the fact that Luke had to face this challenge on his own. He was being warned that he needed to complete his training, but he refused to listen and needed to face the consequences and not feel that Obi-Wan could just come along and save his ass.

Well that makes Obiwan to be a real jerk. An incomplete Luke is going to face Darth f-ing Vader. He knows Luke is not ready. For he knew, Luke would have gotten killed and then things would really be up the shaft. He was the second to last hope for the galaxy and Obiwan is going to risk the whole galaxy just to teach Luke a lesson???

And don’t forget Obi-Wan’s line in ANH: “If you strike me down, i shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.” . Up until TLJ, the most we see a force ghost being able to do is interact with their surroundings by moving some twigs and sitting in a log. A force ghost being able to use that power has been there since day one.

I never understood the line as a kid, but when I grew up, understood it mean that he’d be more powerful as a martyr for the cause.

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

So tell me something, just who was Luke’s equal in the dark side in the OT? As one rises in one side of the force, another rises on the opposite side, right? It couldn’t have been Vader, he rose to power a lot early in the PT and he didn’t get more powerful as Luke got more powerful. Also if that idea is true, there should have been a lot more dark jedis around during the PT, one for every jedi.

not really. I understood that line to have more to do with their being no existing light side users for the force to balance against, so it all manifested in one place. If Luke wasn’t cut off from the force, i think things would have been different.

that is not how I read it all.

Also, its all made up stuff anyway.

I’m sorry, but there is no reason to say this.

1. we all know that

2. that could excuse any continuity error/plot hole in any fiction.

3. it being true, doesn’t mean the fiction universe shouldn’t make sense.

4. its lame to say it

In ESB, Obiwan says that if Luke goes to face Vader he will face him alone, “I can not help you”. But look what Yoda did in TLJ. Sure seems like Obiwan could have lent a hand now.

different people. different circumstances.

um no, same universe. same force. Either force ghosts can do what Yoda can do in TLJ or they can’t. Unless you the movie explains how the force somehow changed and now force ghosts can do things they couldn’t do before. But no explanation was giving.

Also, all made up.

read what I wrote above about that.

So tell me something, just who was Luke’s equal in the dark side in the OT? As one rises in one side of the force, another rises on the opposite side, right? It couldn’t have been Vader, he rose to power a lot early in the PT and he didn’t get more powerful as Luke got more powerful. Also if that idea is true, there should have been a lot more dark jedis around during the PT, one for every jedi.

In ESB, Obiwan says that if Luke goes to face Vader he will face him alone, “I can not help you”. But look what Yoda did in TLJ. Sure seems like Obiwan could have lent a hand now.

Oh.

Lincoln reference?

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

You know, somehow I must have gotten cursed into to having bad experiences at the movies. I decided to to use the free ticket I got from tlj incident, and I saw “The Post”. I sat next to an asshole who didn’t think the directive to turn off your cell phone applied to him. The jerk didn’t even put it on vibrate. It rang, twice. He didn’t even turn it off or to vibrate after the first time it rang and it rang again later on in the movie. He had it in the space in the chair for drinks, where when it rang it shined it’s bright screen right in my face. I was very temped to grab the thing and break it in two. Fuck that guy.

Besides that, Mr. Warbler, how was the movie?

It was good.

You know, somehow I must have gotten cursed into to having bad experiences at the movies. I decided to to use the free ticket I got from tlj incident, and I saw “The Post”. I sat next to an asshole who didn’t think the directive to turn off your cell phone applied to him. The jerk didn’t even put it on vibrate. It rang, twice. He didn’t even turn it off or to vibrate after the first time it rang and it rang again later on in the movie. He had it in the space in the chair for drinks, where when it rang it shined it’s bright screen right in my face. I was very temped to grab the thing and break it in two. Fuck that guy.

suspiciouscoffee said:

I’m not a fan of men who needlessly get paid billions of dollars just to give each other degenerative brain diseases.

Please don’t turn this thread into a debate thread about the ethics and of football and other sports. I don’t think that was the intent of the creation of this thread. It would probably be better to create a new thread if you want to that.

That said, may I remind you that anyone that doesn’t want to take the risk of degenerative brain diseases is free not to play football.

moviefreakedmind said:

If only it were possible for all teams to lose all of their games, then everyone would be disappointed. That’d sure make me happy.

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It was down for me for a few minutes.

The enemy is now known, and it wears a helmet with horns.

The Republicans in the House and Senate should be ashamed of themselves that they let this farce of Presidency continue. If Nukes are launched at some point due to Trump’s incompetent handling of the N. Korea situation, the blood will be on the hands of those in Congress that could stop this insanity by impeaching Trump but refuse to. (it is also on the hands of all those that supported him, voted for him, and/or endorsed him. They too should be ashamed of themselves)

At this point, seriously doubt I will ever vote for any Republican ever again. Yeah, I know not all Republicans are like Trump. But he still enjoys the support of the party. Too much support. I have lost any and all respect I’ve had for the party. I think for now on it will either be Dem or independent for me in the voting booth.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/georgia-senator-now-says-trump-not-use-word-160807678.html

I am not so sure I believe the Senator.

hmm. I wonder why?

Bingowings said:

Warbler said:

Bingowings said:

I misjudged the situation with my co-worker. I waited for a private moment and raised the matter and I upset him while doing so to the point of making him tearful. I justly feel guilty and crappy for it and all the apologies in the world wouldn’t be enough to rectify how wrong I have been. He is a great guy and my current confused state is no excuse. I just hope to learn from the situation.

If you feel comfortable answering, how come he had you blocked?

He said he didn’t so I have to take him at his word but it doesn’t really add up but it’s not really important.

Seems strange.

I know this when I’m well but it can be the first thing to be forgotten when I’m not.

I think kinda know how you feel in that regard.

This weekend is very strange. Cooked food for my ex and myself. Watched our favourite television shows but as soon as my character reference is printable the forms to let my new home will be sent. Strange is my new normal.

Well, I hope things get less strange for you and that things get better for you.

YES!!! Eagles win 15-10!!!

They are going to the NFC Championship Game!!

Way to go Nick Foles!!

Way to go Eagles

and now something I haven’t posted in far too long:

THE EAGLES’ FIGHT SONG

As originally written:

THE EAGLES’ VICTORY SONG

Fight, Eagles Fight,

On your way to victory,

Fight, Eagles Fight,

Score a touchdown One, Two, Three.

Hit 'em low,

Hit 'em high,

Let us see our Eagles fly!

Come on and fight, Eagles fight,

On your way to victory.

E!-A!-G!-L!-E!-S! EAGLES!!!

As updated:

FLY EAGLES FLY

Fly, Eagles Fly,

On the road to victory,

Fight, Eagles Fight,

Score a touchdown One, Two, Three.

Hit 'em low,

Hit 'em high,

And watch our Eagles fly!

Fly, Eagles Fly,

On the road to victory.

E!-A!-G!-L!-E!-S! EAGLES!!!

oojason said:

Strange, I can see the pic fine on my laptop using google Chrome. But I can’t see the pic on my Ipad using safari. I can also see the pic on my Samsung Galaxy S7 using Samsung internet.

Bingowings said:

I misjudged the situation with my co-worker. I waited for a private moment and raised the matter and I upset him while doing so to the point of making him tearful. I justly feel guilty and crappy for it and all the apologies in the world wouldn’t be enough to rectify how wrong I have been. He is a great guy and my current confused state is no excuse. I just hope to learn from the situation.

If you feel comfortable answering, how come he had you blocked?

Bingowings said:

Handman said:

It’s shocking how all of my friends seem to care so little about me. I don’t know. I feel empty and alone.

For what it’s worth and I appreciate it’s not the same, but we are here. When you aren’t well it’s like looking into bathwater with baby oil on the surface. The whole view is distorted. Things that seem so insignificant when you are well are magnified and the truly important things are obscured and hard to make out. If your friends don’t notice your discomfort you might need to tell them about it as it might feel obvious to you but be utterly invisible to them. If after that they don’t care, well what sort of friends are they? Make new ones if you can but if it’s currently too exhausting, vent your woes elsewhere while whatever you need to do to get a purchase on the problem is kicking in. Life is short, stand as tall as you can and the best people will notice your courage.

I agree with this.

I’m not seeing the pic.

dahmage said:

Nope. As handman guessed I can’t say more. It’s local stuff.

Straight rye.

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Probably a lot.