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Originally posted by: ricarleiteQuote
Originally posted by: ricarleite
but to all of you
Oh, and see? Now I've learned. "All of you". I'll suggest a plural form of "you": "yous". When I'm talking to more than one people, or I'm not being specific, I could say "Yous should boycott the DVDs", or "Did yous hate Episode 1 too?"
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Originally posted by: starkiller
Iraq War is part of the War on Terror, even Kerry has admitted that point in speeches on TV (look for tape from the day that the 1000 dead number was announced), so I semi-touched on it above.
- Did he celebrate too soon? Yes, I'll give you that.
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Originally posted by: starkiller
- I'm honestly quite sick of the WMD discussion. He said what he was told by his advisors.
If you had been told all your life that grass was purple, can we fault you for not knowing any better, or those that gave you the info.
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Originally posted by: starkiller
- We gave the world a chance to work with us. A lot of countries (80+ being in Iraq) took the chance. France, Germany and Russia did not. France has never been very fond of the US, and is trying to assert itself to take some control power in the EU.
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Originally posted by: starkiller
- No, we haven't gotten bin Laden. But you know what, they're still finding Nazi concentration camp guards and putting them on trial.
- How many of those attacks have been inside the US, or even in US territories?
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Originally posted by: starkiller
- You consider the GOP out of touch with America. Well, perhaps its just your perception of what America has become.
Glass half empty, or half full?
If I fill the glass, then take a sip from it, are you looking at how much I filled it or how much more there is now than there was when it was half full/empty?
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Originally posted by: starkiller
Nowadays we expect things like terrorist threats, 'wardrobe malfunctions', political mudslinging, excessive movie violence. What is wrong with wanting to return to the times before we expected it all?
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Originally posted by: Warbler
I don't even no where to start! Ric don't you dare tell me what I am and am not confident in!
and as for the rest of the things you said, are you f***ing serious?!? I assume that you really don't mean it when you say you don't care about the world,your country, and yourself. And maybe you should stop talking about politics until you can do it rationally!
I won't categorize this as a political comentary, so I won't be violating what I've said before, of never posting about politics again - at least not here.
Warbler, I wasn't talking specifically of you. I am sorry if I've offended you in any way, as it was NOT my intention. As I've said in my last post, when I said you, I mean "you all", not YOU you. In english there isn't a plural, impersonal form of "you", thus creating this misfortunate mistake due to language barrier. Please do not take it personal, I know you are not going to vote for him, and as a inteligent person, you have your own thoughts and ideals about the issue. And for the same reason I don't know you, I never intended to either offend you or put words in your mouth, as you've said. So again, I'm sorry. I'll keep myself from posting until you reply accepting my apologies, only if you decide to, of course.
About the later part, yes, I do feel that way nowadays, and yes I don't care about it anymore, since my single thought and opinions won't really matter. I do care about the world in a way, in the same way I care about the life of innocent people, but I don't care about myself and what the Powers that Be can do to me and my own life, since I have little to no control over that.
As a later note, based on what I've seen here today, and in other political threads, I'd suggest that such topic is not discussed here.
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Originally posted by: Warbler
And wheither or not it justifies the war, the world is better off without Saddam. One less murdering dictator in the world. How you beleive that the world is better off with a man like Saddam than without? You don't have to think that that justifies the war, but Saddam definitely was not a good guy and I am glad it is not longer in power. I can only hope this ends with a stable Iraq with the people of Iraq being able to choose their own leaders.
Warbler, I'm pretty sure you are confident on the actions taken by not only Bush, but the whole republican staff at the white house. Therefore, since the job being done on war on terror is so great that justifies what is being done with the country, you should vote for him, and get 4 more years of a republican administration. Or voter for Kerry, who cares. Both are mindless puppets, moving where the money is. Don't even bother voting green, or voting for other candidates. Don't even consider changing the electoral system to a democratic one. One person one vote, nah, that's the way those banana republics choose their insane liders, like Idi Amin Dada or Pol Pot or Saddam...Quote
Normally I won't want to start a political discussion on a Star Wars site but I have to make an exception now.
OH COME ONE, Jimbo!
And no thanks, I rather not look at the pictures of innocents human beings being sadistically murdered because someone decided to have inconsequential sex. So glad we agree on that.
That's it I give up.
You know, I enjoy talking with all of you about any subject at all, from Star Wars to 70s european porn, but I don't feel so great talking about american politics. It's a heavily polarized issue, strictly two-sided, and both sides defend their own opinions and wishes as their lifes depended on it. Well, somehow people belive they do, as TV has told you every single day, but worry not, your life is being guided by clever marketing campaigns and sitcom plots. They need you alive so you keep consuming. Me, I don't give a rat's ass about who wins this mud wrestling match, Bush, Kerry, Nader, George Lucas, I don't care anymore. The world could become a wonderful world of bliss and joy, or we could be nuked by the north koreans right now, I don't care anymore, I don't care if terrorists armed with letter openers kill me while I'm asleep, I don't care if a 75 year-old pensioner from Louisiana is getting his free medicine from the government, I don't care if Bush decides to invade Brazil because our president is torturing people with samba and boring soccer games, I don't care if I get killed by us marines who think I'm a "terrorist" because of my Die Jar Jar Die t-shirt, I don't care if I'm taken to Abu Ghraib 2 and tortured in a Pulp Fiction way by a us marine gimp going medieval on my ass, I don't care if Kerry throw a thousand purple hearts at me killing me with the weight, I don't care if Michael Moore makes a movie about how much of a loser I am, I simply don't care anymore. But yes, I'd like to see Bush win, because, frankly, lately I've wanted for the whole world to blow up in pieces.
And that's it, I mean, what's the point of going on talking about politics with you guys, I don't want to create enemies here, I don't need to change you people's minds, and I'm positive that whatever I say people will disagree, so now I'm serious: I refuse to speak about anything slightly political ever again.
You don't know me! I have said over and over again that I don't like Bush, have never liked Bush, have never voted for him and will never vote for him. Don't put words in my mouth again!! asshole! jesus christ!
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
I don't. I could go on and argue like I used to do months ago, when a political war broke into this forum, but I decided to just go on and copy-paste the first political text I could find about the subject, and it ended up being Moore's. I knew someone would point this out sooner or later. I just gave up arguing, as I'm "too liberal". You can't fight for a peaceful world, nope, can't do that. You gotta yell out stuff like "world is better without Saddam" so that the brutality seems deliciously justified. By the way I want Bush to win. First, because I don't give a crap anymore, as it won't influence my life that much. Second, because most americans (not all of them) deserve 4 more years of him.
I don't mind that you're against the war or Bush. I know my country is not perfect. Why do you think we deserve 4 more years of Bush. He is a terrible President! May I remind you that many Americans feel the same way about the war that you do. I had a coworker who talked about Bush and the war exactly like you do. Another coworker of mine is signing up to vote for the 1st in her life just to vote Bush out of office. I also read everyday in the paper, the letters to editors many are anti Bush and anti war. There have been protests all around the country against the war. Remember although Bush won the 1st election, he didn't win the popular vote. That should tell you somthing of what Americans really think of Bush and his policies. Quote
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men who fought in Nam were mostly heros fighting and dying for there country and deserve more respect.
no they were not fighting and dying for their country, they were fighting for a wrong cause and they lost. the USA was not in danger of anything at the time.
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Originally posted by: Regicidal_Maniac
man who takes his orders from an imaginary friend.
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Originally posted by: jimbo
Possible yes, Inevidible No.
who knows you'll probably get elected Republican President one day.
