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Warbler

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#1245636
Topic
The "101 Ways to Kill Off-Topic For Good" Thread
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ChainsawAsh said:

Warbler said:

ChainsawAsh said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

If I have made false claims of harassment, please tell me names and times that I did it and links if possible.

Me, Frink, Possessed, Bingowings, oojason. Others too, probably. It’s funny because my earliest ever memory of you on this forum was when I first to came to off-topic and at the time Bingo was taking a temporary leave from the forum and every time someone mentioned missing him you’d talk about how anyone that wanted him to come back actually you gone because you couldn’t possibly use the same forum as some horrible guy like Bingo. It was pretty embarrassing. The most embarrassing one, in my opinion, was when you claimed that Frink was mocking your Christianity recently even though there was absolutely no reason to think that he was. You wanted my thread discussing police brutality deleted because it was too offensive to discuss things that happen in reality. You also wanted me banned for engaging you in an admittedly heated debate over the anthem, because it was harassment to point out the flaws in your thinking. You wanted me banned for responding to your public posts, which you claimed was harassment. It wouldn’t even surprise me if you reported this post even though you directly asked me this question.

Most often you aren’t being as specific with who you think is trying to ruin your life. It’s typically a more general “Everyone hates me” style of persecution complex, as is evident almost everywhere.

Thanks for typing all of that out so I didn’t have to.

Bingowings:

I admit to having problems(a lot of problems) with Bingo. But I will say he was very nice to me when my father died, so I think I may have misjudged him. I thought we were getting along better before he took this latest leave of absense.

Frink:

I deeply regret the accusation I made against Frink that he was mocking my Christianity. But I admitted I was wrong and apologized.

Possessed:

I don’t think I have accused him of harassing me. I do believe he has made some adversarial posts about me and I do believe he is angry with me. But I do not accuse him of harassment.

oojason:

I choose not to discuss this here because it is a moderation issue, also he is no longer a moderator.

As for others:

I will admit to feeling ganged up on at times and that I feel I am not as well liked/respected as I used to be. It may be a combination of my own fault and the fault of others. I wish things were different.

Then of course there is the one charge of harassment against a certain forum member that I still believe to be true.

The larger point is - if we went through your post history and gave examples of false claims of harassment or bullying with links, it would be multiple pages long and probably crash the forum.

that hurts.

Sorry if it does, but the fact that you have actual responses to each of these and only one of them is “I never did that” should prove to you that there is, in fact, a pattern of behavior here on your part.

I suppose it does. But keep in mind that one I already apologized for and one I said I wouldn’t talk about here.

I am really not sure what do, about all of this.

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#1245635
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The "101 Ways to Kill Off-Topic For Good" Thread
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chyron8472 said:

Warbler, when multiple people say they feel you have a persecution complex, for you to effectively say “citation please” is to deny the accusation as patently false.

Asking for proof and clarification is not the same as denying something.

I’ve already told you that you need to purpose to stop holding grudges, to which your response was not much more than a *shrug*.

maybe people should also stop holding grudges against me as well.

People aren’t just saying you need to lighten up like it’s a thing to gang on Warbler or whatever. You genuinely honestly need to work on not taking things people say so seriously. Coming from me, speaking for myself, I am very much not picking on you when I say that.

I know you aren’t.

Warbler said:

that hurts.

The bottom line is, people don’t want to have to outline, ad nauseam, each and every instance by each and every user from whom you have ever felt picked on, nor discuss why each of those individually are or are not warranted.

It is difficult to come to any sort of agreement or understanding or solution when people don’t wish to discuss the facts and whatnot of the situation.

Calling us to do so will not get the response you seek because such a request, to be frank, is unreasonable.

trying to discuss this situation to come to an understanding isn’t reasonable?

We have neither the time nor the inclination to pore over individual examples of what hurts your feelings, especially if it appears you are unwilling to take advice given into consideration.

I am at least listening. That should tell you something.

You are responsible for your own life. You get to decide how you respond to those around you. Yes, they ought to be civil and polite, but when they aren’t that doesn’t absolve you of wrongdoing on your part,

I never said it absolved me of any wrongdoing nor do I think it does.

nor does the community at large want to listen to the ensuing back and forth.

without some back and forth, it is difficult to come to an understanding.

One person says I have made multiple false accusations of harassment. I wasn’t sure who and what he was talking about, so I asked for names and whatnot. I see nothing unreasonable about asking for that info. When names were given, I then talked about each case. I see nothing unreasonable about doing so. *shrugs*

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#1245609
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The "101 Ways to Kill Off-Topic For Good" Thread
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DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

Warbler said:

If I have made false claims of harassment, please tell me names and times that I did it and links if possible.

It might be wise to continue the conversation in this thread:

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Give-Warbler-Feedback/id/59418/page/2

Oh it works just fine in here.

If you wish, I just feared we may have gone too far in the direction of derailing this thread.

I assure you any derailment like this is entirely on topic for this thread.

Ok, you’re the op.

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#1245608
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The "101 Ways to Kill Off-Topic For Good" Thread
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ChainsawAsh said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

If I have made false claims of harassment, please tell me names and times that I did it and links if possible.

Me, Frink, Possessed, Bingowings, oojason. Others too, probably. It’s funny because my earliest ever memory of you on this forum was when I first to came to off-topic and at the time Bingo was taking a temporary leave from the forum and every time someone mentioned missing him you’d talk about how anyone that wanted him to come back actually you gone because you couldn’t possibly use the same forum as some horrible guy like Bingo. It was pretty embarrassing. The most embarrassing one, in my opinion, was when you claimed that Frink was mocking your Christianity recently even though there was absolutely no reason to think that he was. You wanted my thread discussing police brutality deleted because it was too offensive to discuss things that happen in reality. You also wanted me banned for engaging you in an admittedly heated debate over the anthem, because it was harassment to point out the flaws in your thinking. You wanted me banned for responding to your public posts, which you claimed was harassment. It wouldn’t even surprise me if you reported this post even though you directly asked me this question.

Most often you aren’t being as specific with who you think is trying to ruin your life. It’s typically a more general “Everyone hates me” style of persecution complex, as is evident almost everywhere.

Thanks for typing all of that out so I didn’t have to.

Bingowings:

I admit to having problems(a lot of problems) with Bingo. But I will say he was very nice to me when my father died, so I think I may have misjudged him. I thought we were getting along better before he took this latest leave of absense.

Frink:

I deeply regret the accusation I made against Frink that he was mocking my Christianity. But I admitted I was wrong and apologized.

Possessed:

I don’t think I have accused him of harassing me. I do believe he has made some adversarial posts about me and I do believe he is angry with me. But I do not accuse him of harassment.

oojason:

I choose not to discuss this here because it is a moderation issue, also he is no longer a moderator.

As for others:

I will admit to feeling ganged up on at times and that I feel I am not as well liked/respected as I used to be. It may be a combination of my own fault and the fault of others. I wish things were different.

Then of course there is the one charge of harassment against a certain forum member that I still believe to be true.

The larger point is - if we went through your post history and gave examples of false claims of harassment or bullying with links, it would be multiple pages long and probably crash the forum.

that hurts.

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#1245598
Topic
The "101 Ways to Kill Off-Topic For Good" Thread
Time

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

Warbler said:

If I have made false claims of harassment, please tell me names and times that I did it and links if possible.

It might be wise to continue the conversation in this thread:

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Give-Warbler-Feedback/id/59418/page/2

Oh it works just fine in here.

If you wish, I just feared we may have gone too far in the direction of derailing this thread.

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#1245590
Topic
The "101 Ways to Kill Off-Topic For Good" Thread
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Possessed said:

Okay what I said earlier was too harsh and not true. Saying I’ve never liked you isn’t really true or a reasonable thing to say, and I apologize for that.

And it’s not entirely accurate for me to say I don’t like you now either. A more truthful way to put it is that I don’t like how you’ve been acting lately.

feel free to tell me why/what you don’t like how I’ve been acting lately:

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Give-Warbler-Feedback/id/59418/page/2

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#1245544
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The "101 Ways to Kill Off-Topic For Good" Thread
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ChainsawAsh said:

Doesn’t mean you get to behave as if you’re entitled to more respect than everyone else.

You see that, right? How you can see someone making a joke at someone else’s expense and you play along and find it amusing with no problem, but as soon as it involves you in even the slightest or mildest of ways, you cry harassment and bullying and tell the nearest authority figure how everyone’s out to get you and they deserve to be punished for it?

I don’t think I’ve done that. I don’t think I’ve ever made an accusation of harassment over just one joke. If I make a call of harassment, it has to do with multiple things(multiple comments, actions, context, history, etc).

I wouldn’t make an harassment call on just one joke.

and I certainly don’t think I’m entitled to any more respect than everyone else is.

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#1245521
Topic
The "101 Ways to Kill Off-Topic For Good" Thread
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ChainsawAsh said:

Warbler said:

With others, you would have only been joking. With me, it was obviously not just a joke.

This right here is my issue with you, Warb. The persecution complex. It’s fucking exhausting.

Given what Possessed said in the post after the one where he made the joke, given comments he has made to me on this forum both recently and in the last year or so, given what has been going on in forum, it is clear it was more than just a mere joke.

Maybe I do have a persecution complex, I don’t know. I suppose the person with the complex would be the last one to realize it. But it wasn’t a conscious decision to have one and I don’t think one could just turn it off like a light switch. If I do have one, it probably has to do with being bullied as a kid.

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#1245505
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The "101 Ways to Kill Off-Topic For Good" Thread
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Possessed said:

No its just really annoying how you’re turning into jetrell fo

Really?

and you’ve always had a real hard on for sucking the fun out of everything.

That was not my intent.

Every time i try to turn a new leaf and convince myself to mentally give you another chance and try to tolerate you

I didn’t realize that you were doing that.

you immediately remind me why I never liked you.

I could have sworn there was a time when you did like me, then you became more adversarial towards me and then started to hate me.

That post was a joke by the way, the same joke I would have made if anybody else that I actually like had said something similar. I monetarily forgot that people aren’t allowed to joke about you because you get offended (while ironically complaining about political correctness and snowflakes and sjws and such) but since you predictably took it seriously and defensively I might as well be honest.

With others, you would have only been joking. With me, it was obviously not just a joke.

I don’t recall using the word snowflake.

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#1245298
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Going away? Post so here!
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Possessed said:

Warbler said:

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

Possessed said:

Can we just end this conversation. Warb just wants to pout and isn’t willing to do anything to get himself a way to watch the oot in HD. If he’d rather watch laserdisc transfers and pout then let him but we don’t have to read him bitch about it.

If you want to end the conversation end it. But I don’t think I’ve been pouting in my last few posts here.

Okay, well you’re complaining you can’t have the oot in HD but also refuse to take the necessary steps to get it (ethically if not legally) so what would you call it?

Perhaps it’s being stubborn. I could also call it staying loyal to the cause that originated this forum.

I get that to you it’s a moral stance, but you have to understand its accomplishing nothing but depriving you of seeing the movie you want to see. And at the end of the day it is, after all, just a movie. Just let yourself enjoy it even if it is unofficial.

At the end of the day it is my choice. It’s my life

Absolutely, if you want to deprive yourself of a movie you enjoy for some futile moral stance that’s on you.

fine.

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#1245284
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Going away? Post so here!
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Possessed said:

Warbler said:

Possessed said:

Warbler said:

Possessed said:

Can we just end this conversation. Warb just wants to pout and isn’t willing to do anything to get himself a way to watch the oot in HD. If he’d rather watch laserdisc transfers and pout then let him but we don’t have to read him bitch about it.

If you want to end the conversation end it. But I don’t think I’ve been pouting in my last few posts here.

Okay, well you’re complaining you can’t have the oot in HD but also refuse to take the necessary steps to get it (ethically if not legally) so what would you call it?

Perhaps it’s being stubborn. I could also call it staying loyal to the cause that originated this forum.

I get that to you it’s a moral stance, but you have to understand its accomplishing nothing but depriving you of seeing the movie you want to see. And at the end of the day it is, after all, just a movie. Just let yourself enjoy it even if it is unofficial.

At the end of the day it is my choice. It’s my life

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#1245275
Topic
Religion
Time

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

flametitan said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

Some day I’ll post the amazing story of my most-religious-ever best friend from high school. Sealed the deal for me, as to why I’ll never become a Christian. It’s a lengthy story so it will take at least an hour of free time to get it all down.

That bad, huh? I feel you. Most of the religious people I know are chill, but the few bad apples I’ve met really sour the mood on it.

No, it’s nothing like that. He’s always been a great guy, still is.

That makes me even more interested to read it.