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#102748
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The Pope
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I will concede that adding together the multiple verses quoted would seem to indicate that the bible says abortion is sin.

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Originally posted by: JediSage

We know for certain because the child at ANY stage has every body part it will ever have,


I do not believe a fetus has every body part immediatly after conception. The body parts take time to develope.

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Originally posted by: JediSage


Per one of my previous posts, human life should not be measured as a point of development within a species, it should be measured by being a member of a species.


But when does the fetus become a member of the species human? does having the correct DNA and the correct number of chromosomes automatically make somthing a member of the species human? this is a very difficult question.

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Originally posted by: JediSage
Trying to ascribe rights to someone based on a measure of their physical abilitiy, their iq, etc is dangerous because it would open the way to governments trying to deny rights to people who are in comas, or who have Parkinson's disease, or MS, or whatever.


This point involving abortion is somthing I had not thought of before. It is a good point. This is a serious concern.






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#102528
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Your Jedi name
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question: when the rules say the town you were born, do the mean where you 1st lived or the physical place of your birth. I was born a hospital outside just outside of my hometown.

my last name is either Johad(using hometown) or Jocam(using town where the hospital I was born in is located). Which is right?
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#102523
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The Pope
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Originally posted by: Trooperman

1. Fetus is alive



on this we agree.

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Originally posted by: Trooperman

2. If fetus has 47 chromosomes,



not being a scientist or a doctor, I will have to take your word on this.

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Originally posted by: Trooperman

2. If fetus has 47 chromosomes, fetus is human. This means human life. Not plant life, not reptile life...human life.



so just because it has 47 chromosomes means that is human life? I'll grant you it is turning into a human, but is it a human yet? That is still the question.

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Originally posted by: Trooperman

3. Fetus has done nothing wrong by existing; therefore fetus is innocent.



agreed.

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Originally posted by: Trooperman

3. Abortion- aborts fetus. Ends fetus' life. Therefore kills fetus because it used to be alive.



agreed.

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Originally posted by: Trooperman

4. Since fetus=innocent human life and abortion=end of innocent human life, abortion= murder.



this would be true if your point number 2, "If fetus has 47 chromosomes, fetus is human. This means human life. Not plant life, not reptile life...human life. " were true. But how are we to know for certain?





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#102243
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New Star Wars DVD's on the way...
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
and to all those who bought the new star wars dvds i laugh...
typical LucASS marketing BS

from the bits
"We've got a rare Sunday post for you with a bit of new Star Wars DVD news. At the Celebration III convention in Indianapolis this weekend, George Lucas let it slip that a new DVD box set of all 6 films is in the works, possibly to include an all-new bonus disc containing deleted scenes from the original trilogy. Expect no further changes in the films themselves. In addition, don't look for a high-definition release of the films in 2007. Lucas also confirmed that the digitally-screened version of Episode III will be slightly longer than the traditional film version. You can click here to read more at The Force.net. Note that the story contains what some may consider to be a slight spoiler about the upcoming film."

muhahahha


*plays the imperial march*

Damn you Lucas!