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#125609
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the bionic leg
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/125609/action/topic#125609
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no arnie? No Arnie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how can you possibly have a terminator movie without Arnie?!? This is doomed to failure.


someone previously meantioned that if they make Term4, it will both a sequel and a prequel and you would be able to watch the series in a continuous loop. What Sci-Fi movie series has already done this?
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#125595
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terror in london
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/125595/action/topic#125595
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Originally posted by: ricarleite


OK, since the world is in a situation I, personally, think could be avoided in first place, I'll give two answers. First, how it should have been in the first place:

* The United Nations would invite leaders from all over the world in order to propose changes in their systems. Conutries with dictators would change into parlamentarist systems with free elections for prime-minister, and the dictator or emperor or king would remain at his office and represent the country but with no real powers. Other democratic countries would remain as they are. There would be no weapons of mass destruction, and weapons factories would be torn down. There would be a full list of regulamentations in order to keep peace, such as investing in education and irradicating any religious thoughts that favored violence and killing, by taking the children out of this pseudo-terrorist cells and getting them into some educational program. No country would invade each other. No country would interfere with political business. If any country disagreed and didn't comply, there would be financial sanctions, the country would be excluded from the rest of the world, and the population would be encouraged to perform peaceful disobedience like Ghandi. If this didn't work, THEN a United Nations troup, mostly unnarmed, would interfere, but negotiations would be the first step. There would be no terrorist acts as no country would be seen as the "enemy". There would have never been any dictatorships in south america and iran if there was no interference. There would be no weapons of mass destruction, no political crisis...


That sounds nice althought the irradication of religious thought scares me, I can easily see that going too far. Also, dictators are not going to give up power that easily. We tried sactions with Sadam and and also with Castro. It hasn't worked, Sadam hung on until he was taken out by force and Castro despite years of sactions, is still in power. And do you really think any of that would work with China? with Korea? Unfortunatly, I doublt it. I do however wish things could have gone that way.


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Originally posted by: ricarleite

... but since people don't tend to think like that, here's what is needed to do now:

* Abort any international interferences. Slowly abandon Iraq but keep UN troops in there. Impose sanctions to countries which are home of religiously-based terrorist cells. Map those terrorist cells and try to impose peaceful resolutions to it. Propose asylum for those who are under the claws of those religious groups. Invest money in education in thrid-world countries, so that terrorists cells are not grown in first place. Do not invest in weapons or in the army, invest in education proposes. Throw BOOKS out of planes, not bombs. Peaceful resolutions ARE possible, since this is not a WW2 kinda war, the goal is not conquer territory, there is no need for violence.


Somehow I just do think any of that will get rid of Bin Laden. For one thing, we no idea where he is, so how can we impose sactions on a country if we don't know what country he and other terrorist are in? Dropping books doesn't seem like bad idea. But I still think bombs are somtimes necessary. How about dropping both when and where they are necessary? What if we find a terrorist cell hiding in a country and that country is protecting them and while we try sactions(which can a long time to work), the terrorist cell carries out another attack. What do we say to the families of those killed in the attack which could have been prevented if we had bombed the cell instead of using sactions?
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#125397
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terror in london
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/125397/action/topic#125397
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So what are we supposed to do? Do nothing while they fly into builds and blow up strain stations and restaurants? What does working 8 hours a week and going to Mcdonalds have to do with any of this?(personally I don't do goto Mcdonald very often, I don't think their food is that good) Ric, I can understand how you might think we are as bad as they are, but worse than they are? People keep meantioning the crusades, that happened 100's of years ago. The people involved on both sides are dead. America didn't even exist at the time of the crusades and I'm sure most Americans don't approve of what happen there, atleast I don't. You say the media is brain washing us? how? why? The media in our country is separate from the government? So why would they perform this service for him? I read the newspapers here. I have seen many articles against the war in Iraq. In fact I'd say that most in media disagree with the war. The Republican conservatives constatantly complain about libral bias in the media. To me, it doesn't sound like they are working for the government. In fact, I'd say there is good percentage of Americans who are against the war. To me it doesn't seem like we are brain washed. Personally, I don't like war, but also I dont like doing nothing while we are attacked. The terrorist have to be stopped. Unfortunately I just don't see how we can solve this peacefully, sure we can leave Irag, and Afganistan, but I don't think that is going to stop Bin Laden. I don't want to kill innocent people, but also I don't want the terrorist should get way with doing the same. They have to be stopped somehow. How would you stop Bin laden? And don't say " by not creating him in the first place.". Wrong or right, he was created. Now we have to do deal with him. How do you suggest we do it? By doing nothing? By giving in to his demands and rewarding him for killing innocent people? What do you suggest we do?

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#125156
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MANGLER BROS., INC. IS NOW CLOSED HERE
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/125156/action/topic#125156
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Would that mean that the President can blow up the White House if he wants? I think not. Besides at the time you blew up Mangler Bro HQ, you had no authority, and therefor you had no right to do it. Even if had your authority, would you not still have to talk to Motti first? For example I doubt it would be legal for the Husband to blow up his house without talking to his spouse first. Finally it would have be nice if you had given me some warning first, I barely got out alive!
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#125155
Topic
terror in london
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/125155/action/topic#125155
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Originally posted by: oojason

As opposed to being compared to those (us - the West) who bomb cities and kill innocent civilians with bombs from planes at great heights?

Most of time when we kill civilians, its because they are around a military target. Also when we do it, we have some sort of goal in mind, other than merely killing innocent people. The terrorists intentionally aim at killing civialians for no more reason than to do just that, kill civilian and scare everyone. Also its very difficult to compare a nation deciding to attack another nation(an act of war) with a group of individuals who get together a decide to kill civilians(simple criminal murder). I won't blame you if you don't any difference between war and simple criminal murder. But still the fact that the west has bombed cities and killed innocent civilians does not mean that the innocent people who died on 911 and on 7/7 deserved to die. Sometimes there may be justification for killing innocents. I'm sure we killed innocent people we were fighting Nazi Germany. But if were unwilling to kill innocent peolple when for example we bombed Berlin, we would not have be able to stop Hitler. But, does than mean that the innocent people we killed in WWII deserved die? No. Merely that there was no other way.

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Originally posted by: oojason


Iraq had very little to do with terrorism at all before the west invaded - I still don't understand why people link the invasion of Iraq to stopping terrorism and 9/11.


The point is, Bushes major justification for the invasion was the supposed link to 911. If there was no 911, Bush would not have had his "justification".
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#125136
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terror in london
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/125136/action/topic#125136
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Originally posted by: oojason
imho 'The West' is only just beginning to pay for it's meddling into affairs which it should have stayed out of, not only years ago but recently too. Ironically there are possilby more insurgents and terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan now then there were before The West invaded - and the situation seems far from a conclusion one way or the other...


Yes "The West" made some mistakes, but tell me what the people who died in these terrorist attacks do? Must they for the mistakes of their governments? Did the thousands that died on 911 meddle in international affairs and invade Iraq and Afghanistan on their own? What did the children that lost parents in these terrorists attacks do to deserve their fate? And remember the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq happen after 911, not before. Right or wrong, I doubt the invasions would have happened, if there was no 911.



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#125135
Topic
terror in london
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/125135/action/topic#125135
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
I just heard that the man shot by the english cops at the subway station, with five shots at the back of his head, was a brazillian who absolutely legally worked in England, who was running because he was late and did not hear the cops. I don't have much time to discuss this right now, but is this the price to pay for a pseudo oil fed "freedom"? Who are the terrorists? I say both sides.



*sigh* Is it really necessery to compare us with those the blow up subway stations and resturants and Hijack planes and fly them into building killing thousands of innocent people?

You say the man couldn't hear the cops, how do you know? I don't think anyone could ask him if heard the cops after he was shot and killed, and he is the only one that knows for certain if he heard the cops or not. Please remember London is in a state of high alert. If the cops let the man get away because they weren't sure the man could hear them shout "stop police!" and it turns out he was a terrorist, and them he blows up a another bus or subway station, what do you say the families of the people killed? Im not saying that the cops were right, I'm just saying that having to make a split second decision with that much at stake isn't easy.
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#124976
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MANGLER BROS., INC. IS NOW CLOSED HERE
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/124976/action/topic#124976
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
I never betrayed anyone!


I never said you did. I was refering to Bossk and Dayv. And not only did they betray me, the betrayed Mangler Bro Inc. Sean you must side with me on this. You know I am right. Do not side with Dayv the traitor. Do not force me to ban you from Mangler Bro Inc and label you a traitor. Do not side with those that have destroyed Mangler Bro HQ. Do not believe their lies.