Warbler

someone who doesn't like the classic specials!?!  that sacrilege!   Burn 'im at the stake! 

He's not my style.  

Vaderisnothayden, you correct.  This is not a sports thread.  But the thread this discussion originally started in, was a sports thread.   It was started in the "I've said it before and I'll say it again: College Football Needs a playoff system" thread.   Please read it to see how the discussion began.  The stuff Frink said in response to your post, didn't seem that bad to me.  He even said he has no problem with people who dislike sports.   You did ask "who cares?"   That was worth responding too.   Giving what this thread is about, I don't see what is so wrong with someone trying to say why he likes sports and why its ok to watch them.   I reread you post and can see that you certainly did not say it wasn't ok to watch sports.   Maybe what Frink said wasn't meant just for you was just to the anti-sports people in general.  In any case, its not worth any of us getting upset at each other.   So lets all calm down.   

now that's a devoted fan.

we forgot one diversion C3PX has(and we all have).  How much time does he(and the rest us) spend in this forum, when instead we could be out "saving the world"?   If we only did the things that were important and didn't have our diversions, the world and lives would be very boring.   It would not be a world I'd want to live in.

Vaderisnothayden, may I remind you that the pro-sports people didn't start this discussion.  I created a thread to discuss whether or not College football should have a playoff system.   C3PX and Gaffer came into the thread and talked about their dislike of sports and asking what the big deal about it was.  Then in order to separate the two subjects, Gaffer created this thread.  If you are going to come in a thread discussing a subject you don't like, and say that you like it , say why you don't like it, and ask what the big deal about it is, you can expect to be told by those by those that do like the subject, why they like it and what the big deal is about.   It would be one thing if the pro-sports people suddenly created a thread and lectured those that didn't like sports as to why they are wrong.   It is another thing to simply reply to those who post anti-sports opinions.   If you don't like sports that's fine.  But don't come into a sports thread, post anti-sports opinions and expert to not get responded to.

oh, ok. 

you have a problem with people NOT liking John Tesh?

the millions of people who watch the NFL, MLB, NBA, and NHL and make the players and owners rich.   they care.

I'll go see it at some point, but I doubt it will be as good as all the hype says it will be.

*looks at Ferris as though he were a martian*

I agree with you.

Anchorhead is just a different kind of fan than I am.    But that's ok.   When the Phillies won the World Series,  I celebrated for a month until I was fired(for reasons unrelated to baseball or any other sport).    For people that live in the Philly area, winning a title is a big deal.  We don't have 27 of them,  and the Phillies winning one ended a 25 year drought of no Philly teams winning a title.  Maybe I'm not as big a fan of the baseball itself as I am the Phillies.   I don't know.   I care about the game, but no so much that I get depressed the day after my team wins The World Series.  As for not feeling the representation of the city,  I totally disagree.   I cheer for the hometown teams and no others.  To me not cheering for the Philly teams would be like not cheering for the Americans in the Olympics.   I truly can't stand the sports fans that live all their lives in the Philadelphia area and cheer for teams outside the area,  I especially hate those that cheer for the cowboys.   I call those people traitors.   But of course,  its all just in a jesting manner.    I'd never call out of work just because my team lost .  I might lord a win over someone, a little bit, but again its only in fun.    Most of the time,  I felt that fans of other teams were lording their wins over me more than me over them.   

As for Ferris' concern over the fact that people think sports are more important that who our elected officials are and how laws are passed:

I agree I agree politics is more important.  But sports is more fun.  People need a diversion from the terrible things going on around us.    Btw, I guarantee you that the there are people who can name ever alien race in the Star Trek and/or Star Wars universe but don't  know how laws are passed either.    Please also remember that there are those sports fans like to talk about politics and know how laws are passed.  btw, I can't name every single player on the Phillies or the Eagles.  

I'm not offended that you guys don't like sports, as long you don't interfere with my liking of sports or my talking about them in the forum.  If you like sports and don't want to talk about them, just  don't post in threads about sports.  As for the hijacking of my thread, its no big deal.  I just thought this subject was worthy of  thread of its own.  

As for the whole "when the team wins, we win" thing.  I just don't how or why to describe it to you why it is that way, but it is.   The team represents your city/school/country and if you have pride in your city/school/country, you want the team to win.   Yeah I know its a bunch of professionals playing another bunch of professionals, but that doesn't matter to me.  The team plays in my area, they called themselves PHILADELPHIA Phillies/Eagles.  Those are the things that matter to me.   Yes, I do use terms like we win.    Figuratively speaking, the team belongs to fans.  Yeah, Steinbrenner owns the Yankees and Lurie owns the Phillies.  But the teams belong to the fans.   When I an owner moves a team away a city, I call it theft.   That is why they cheer on the teams, because it's their team playing out there.   Without that believe, teams sports don't work. 

Btw Anchorhead, I hate the Halladay deal.    I was hoping they'd get Halladay and still keep Lee.  Giving up a whole bunch of prospects and Lee for Halladay, I just don't get it.

I didn't say the the petition was pointless, and I certainly don't think is.  I signed the petition.  I am absolutely for the petition and getting the OOT on bluray.    I don't think its likely to happen, but I still think we should send Lucas a message.    I am also for college having a playoff system(read my thread on it) and for me finding a girlfriend.  I just don't any of those is likely.  But, I'd be very glad to be proven wrong.   

I don't what to say.   To me,  watching sports is fun.  When you are talking about a team sport, the team represents some entity,  be it a city, a highschool, a college, or even a nation(the Olympics).  Its really not about pride in the 18-22 year olds, its about pride in what they represent.   When they win,  your city/school/country wins, you win.  When they lose, you lose.  When you cheer on a team for your whole life, after your father and grandfather did as well, you tend to get attached to the team.  You tend to live and die by them(not literally, but figuratively).   When the Phillies won the World Series in 2008, my family opened champagne to celebrate.   When they lost in 1993 via Mitch William's  pitch to Joe bleeping Carter,  believe it or not, I cried.  It can get to you.  Can it go too far?  you bet.  A example of this would be the people in Texas who treat highschool football like its the NFL, and put way too much pressure on the kids.    It sounds like your problems aren't will football per say, but with all sports.  

perhaps the creation of a different thread for that subject is in order.  

Ripplin said:

Ahhh, smell the negativity. :p

negativity or just being realistic?    

it will happen the same day college football adopts a playoff system and I find a girlfriend.

the orange isn't just for the football team,  that is your college's colors.   All your sports team wear those colors.   I can't see how stores being empty on Saturday would be an annoyance.  As for the Sportstalk,  if you don't like it, don't listen.   Surely there must be other radio stations to listen to.   4 hours a day is nothing.  In Philly,  we two stations that talk Philly sports 24/7.  What's wrong with people  being nicer and friendlier.   As for putting your pride in a bunch of 18-22 year olds,  I guess if you aren't a sports fan, you wouldn't understand.

meh, it wouldn't have been a disaster.    If Nebraska had Beat Texas, they would have deserved to get in.  Texas still would have gotten into the playoff via committee spot.    No big disaster.  

As for eight teams:  over the years, I've seen too many good teams in the 9-16 to say eight is enough.  Perhaps eight could be enough if you had a rule in place that undefeated teams are automatically in.

I've never lived on a College Campus,  what is the big problem with the football culture? 

C3PX said:

Warbler said:

huh?  you have something against Football?

No, not really. It is well documented here at OT.com that I am far from a fan of the sport. But I've nothing against it, I suppose.

I didn't know that.  oh well.  Not everyone has to like to football I guess.

Sluggo said:

Ok Warb, do you have an idea of how to handle automatic qualifiers in a playoff system?  I'm not looking for a fight, I'm just curious to see what you think.

are you asking how to decide what teams get in and what ones don't?  Well, I think we need a 16 team playoff.  You could do it one of two ways. 

1: all the conference champions get in and the rest of the spots are decided by committee, like they do for college basketball.

2: keep the BCS formula and instead of selecting the top 2, select the top 16.

yipes! that Lobo is nasty.

What's so bad about it?  Its fun. 

huh?  you have something against Football?

whoops, double post, sorry.

a few things need to be straightened out, but not a ton.

well Frink, seeing as the BCS is so complicated, I wouldn't  be surprised if you had to pay in order to get an in depth explanation as to how it works.