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Are you denying the existence of the religion thread? Or merely saying it no longer applies to our lives.
Nope, It is just that instead of either admitting that Frink is right or coming up with a good reason why he is wrong, I am refusing to address his point.
If only we had a religion thread.
Another repeated argument I’m not wasting four more pages on.
I agree with you too Ric. Keep in mind that some of the new translations, not the NKJV or NASB, but things like NLT or ESV (and a lot of other weird ones) are not particularly accurate. There are hundreds of different translations, many of which are intended for ease of reading rather than accuracy. I think there’s something to be said about how the KJV has stood the test of time.
Oh I agree. There is just something about the KJV. I just disagree with people claiming that is the only inerrant pure Word of God in the English language, and that the rest are corrupt. I think that view is just totally ridiculous.
well but suppose you are talking about reading Psalm 23 at someone’s funeral or Luke 2 at Christmas or some other passage at a wedding or other special occasion. Poetic might be good there, right?
Yeah, it would probably be appropriate then. I think we Catholics use the Jerusalem Bible for all readings in Canada, though, regardless of the occasion.
yeah, I wasn’t really talking about Catholic occasions.
well but suppose you are talking about reading Psalm 23 at someone’s funeral or Luke 2 at Christmas or some other passage at a wedding or other special occasion. Poetic might be good there, right?
hate to tell you NASB’s way of rendering the verse may be more accurate to the original.
To be quite honest, I don’t particularly care about the direct-translation accuracy. The impact of the verse is watered down by the newer versions.
if the newer versions are accurate, then what you are saying is that the original is also watered down.
The wording is weaker than in the King James.
well, here is some commentaries on Isaiah 14:12. There seems some conflict on whether or not Lucifer should be used.
hate to tell you NASB’s way of rendering the verse may be more accurate to the original.
To be quite honest, I don’t particularly care about the direct-translation accuracy. The impact of the verse is watered down by the newer versions.
if the newer versions are accurate, then what you are saying is that the original is also watered down.
hate to tell you NASB’s way of rendering the verse may be more accurate to the original.
another thing to remember that the originals didn’t have chapter and verse separations. Those came much later.
btw, I am making a project of reading through the entire King James Version and New International Version of the Bible. I have read through Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Job, and am party through Deuteronomy in both Bibles.
I’ve read the KJV at least five times total, with many other books a lot more than that. The poetic language really makes each book sound much more incredible.
I agree. The KJV is the Bible I grew up with. It just sound right to me. However there are areas where it is rather difficult to understand and it uses many words that have are no longer used and some that have changed meaning since the KJV was translated.
I’ve read NKJV, NIV, and NASB once each. NKJV is the best of those three in both accuracy and translation.
I have heard that the NASB is the most accurate. But I have no idea if that is true.
btw, I am making a project of reading through the entire King James Version and New International Version of the Bible. I have read through Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Job, and am party through Deuteronomy in both Bibles.
Why Job? It’s not in the middle of the Pentateuch in the KJV, is it?
No, I am following a reading plan. The reading plan lists Job between Genesis, and Exodus. I think it has to do with when it is thought Job was written.
btw, I am making a project of reading through the entire King James Version and New International Version of the Bible. I have read through Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Job, and am party through Deuteronomy in both Bibles.
I don’t know about the whole debate, but from what I’ve read, the KJV is much more poetic and straightforward, while the new translations are very watered down and often so concerned about direct translation that they are wordy and awkward.
That is not the reason the KJV only people are KJV only. What it has to with is that most of the newer translations come from different sources than the KJV. For example the New Testament of the KJV is mostly translated from the Textus Receptus where as the New Testament of most of the newer translations comes from the Nestle-Aland text. There are various differences between the texts. There are multiple verses that appear in the Textus Receptus, but not in the Nestle-Aland text. It is believed that through the years when people were copying the text years and years ago that the text was added to. The verses that appear in the textus Receptus but not in the Nestle-Aland text are verses that are thought to not have originally been part of the Bible. They were therefore removed. This is why some verses (like Acts 8:37) appear in the KJV but not in most newer translations. KJV onlyists believe the sources used for the new versions are corrupt. They believe that instances like Acts 8:37 are actually attempts to remove things from and change the Word of God. They believe that Satan is behind the newer versions and he created them to keep people away from the real word of God(the KJV). Some KJV onlyists think the Catholic Church is behind the newer versions. Some KJV onlyists really, really, REALLY, hate Catholics. KJV onlyists tend to be conspiracy minded. Some KJV onlyists are downright crazy. Most are nutty in some shape or form. I read and watched on youtube alot of what they have to say. I find there arguments to have huge gaping defects in logic. Just watch a few of this guy’s videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/husky394xp/videos
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Trident said:
But now of course I just feel like I’ve abandoned her instead of helping.-Trident
If you go to the proper authorities, it is not abandoning her. It is the exact opposite.
Like I said, suicide cases need to be dealt with by trained professionals. No one can just say the magic words and make a person stop considering suicide. Even if you cheer them up in one instance, the root cause hasn’t been addressed.
exactly.
@Trident: I’ve kept quiet on the subject of your situation because I haven’t anything to add, but I would like to say that I’ll keep this in my prayers.
me too.
No one is saying that you yourself should save her. Everyone is saying that you should call the proper authorities. If that fails it is not your fault. So don’t blame yourself.
I agree with all the others here. Call the proper authorities. She needs more help than you can give her. She maybe angry with you, but it may save her life.
Congratulations and salutations!
ditto!
I think that God has a sick sense of humor, and when I die, I expect to find him laughing.
Well, your sea of problems multiplies if you continually decide to faithfully pursue the policy of truth.
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I think it’s a reference to 1984.
WRONG YEAR
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It’s just a question of time.
still don’t get it.
Open the windows and out go ideas.
I give up.
I think that God has a sick sense of humor, and when I die, I expect to find him laughing.
Well, your sea of problems multiplies if you continually decide to faithfully pursue the policy of truth.
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I think it’s a reference to 1984.
WRONG YEAR
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It’s just a question of time.
still don’t get it.
I think that God has a sick sense of humor, and when I die, I expect to find him laughing.
Well, your sea of problems multiplies if you continually decide to faithfully pursue the policy of truth.
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I think it’s a reference to 1984.
WRONG YEAR
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I think that God has a sick sense of humor, and when I die, I expect to find him laughing.
Well, your sea of problems multiplies if you continually decide to faithfully pursue the policy of truth.
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despite what many(trolls mostly) say about him, Frink is a good guy.