Warbler

I wonder if when my Chinese-American niece is 18, if she will look to Trump like she should be allowed to vote.

I could of sworn that looks were not a basis for judging whether or not someone is eligible to vote.

Dek Rollins said:

Warbler said:

Dek Rollins said:

And the reddit link was mostly to see the reaction from members like you.

It is this kind of crap from the right wingers here that pisses me off.

It pisses you off that I wanted to see how many times I would be called a sexist, fat-shaming bigot for posting that image? And I was called a piece of shit, so the Trump haters here seem to be as predictably insulting as ever. Experiment successful, I guess.

whatever.

Dek Rollins said:

And the reddit link was mostly to see the reaction from members like you.

It is this kind of crap from the right wingers here that pisses me off.

Jeebus said:

Warbler said:

I am serious.

That’s why it’s funny. 😛

?

I am serious.

R.I.P., Ms. Moore

DominicCobb said:

On the matter of abortions and birth control, in my mind it will never not be a matter of women’s rights. It’s very simple. You can say people shouldn’t fuck around in the first place or they deserve the consequences, but at the end of the day it is only the woman that has to deal with those consequences. The men get off scot free, if they want. So why shouldn’t the women too?

1. because unfortunately nature decided that the women carry the baby to term

2. it is not only the woman that had to deal with the consequences, the growing unborn baby also has to.

As to whether it is immoral or not, this is a case where there’s no where to go but to say agree to disagree.

when it comes to laws. tend to try not to enforce morality. I try to look at how will someone doing X effect others. If doing X has absolutely no effect on others, I tend to think they should be allowed to do X. If however doing X will effect others, then perhaps rules are needed. In the case of abortions, I think doing does effect others, whom you might ask? the unborn baby.

Jeebus said:

THE MADMAN IS DOING IT

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38740717?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central

Maybe it is time to talk Constitutional Convention in order to get Trump out of office.

TV’s Frink said:

http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/25/14384958/trump-administration-censor-epa-science-political-review-gag-order

The Trump administration intends to submit scientific research conducted by the Environmental Protection Agency to political review, NPR reports. It’s a move that could pollute the EPA’s scientific integrity, and suppress science that doesn’t align with the reigning political ideology.

This new vetting process is still nebulous, Doug Ericksen, a state senator from Washington who is heading up EPA communications during the transition, told NPR in an interview. Ericksen said only that publications and presentations might be internally reviewed before they’re released.

“We’ll take a look at what’s happening so that the voice coming from the EPA is one that’s going to reflect the new administration,” Ericksen told NPR. Calling scientific results a “voice,” and requiring them to “reflect the new administration” is a chilling perversion of the scientific process.

wonderful.

doubleofive said:

OK, Spicer just said that 14% of the votes in 2008 were illegal. FOURTEEN PERCENT.

alternative fact?

TV’s Frink said:

This is wrong, plain and simple.

http://www.snopes.com/2017/01/24/protester-sets-trump-supporters-hair-on-fire/

and illegal.

One has to wonder why Trump and Spice are spending time and energy on something that is such a waste of time as the attendance numbers of the inauguration.

Tyrphanax said:

It sucks. It’s been made basically impossible to lean left in any way and be pro-gun because every time I vote for something, it’s basically a vote for someone who wants to trample one of my constitutional rights.

Sorry for wanting to prevent massacres like Sandy Hook.

Just what do you think is transpiring?

They’ll be shipped back and Mexico will pay the expense.

Jetrell Fo said:

I am choosing the better part of valor and walking away from this conversation, and this thread for now, it is clearly in my best interest to do so.

😃

alternative fact?

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Some great posts from oojason and Tyr today.

No “bait” posts please. It has been a good conversation, why ruin it?

Thank you.

It is only your opinion that this is a “bait” post.

Trump is again claiming widespread voter fraud. He’s nuts.

Jetrell Fo said:

TV’s Frink said:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/3-days-into-trumps-presidency-45-percent-of-americans-disapprove-of-his-performance/

President Trump has been in office for three days, and on Monday he got his first job approval rating. Forty-five percent of Americans approve of Trump’s job performance; 45 percent disapprove, according to Gallup. That’s an improvement on his low favorability ratings, but it’s not good. Indeed, it’s the lowest job approval rating for any new president since at least Harry Truman in 1945 (as far back as we have polling), and it suggests Trump failed to take full advantage of the transition period to build support.

Every president before Trump started their first term with the approval of a majority of the country.

This means squat to everyone except those who disapprove of Trump himself for their own reasons.

This is an alternative fact.

Jetrell Fo said:

CatBus said:

The past few days have been, to me, the definition of how Democrats always, always, always fall for it.

For the past decade or so, Republicans have made a habit of getting the name of the Democratic Party wrong, just for yuks. Democrats then spend half their available airtime/screentime/op-ed space explaining what the name of their party is, and their available space for talking about actual policy issues is diminished. Trump spends a surprising proportion of the primary talking about the size of his penis. Democrats then go into a tizzy about who was talking about what idiotic things in the Republican Party debates, instead of, you know, meaningful issues. Now we’re talking about crowd sizes instead of the DOJ switching sides on the Voting Rights Act, or any other major issue of the day.

Yeah, I get it. Getting the name of a major political party wrong makes you look like an idiot. Talking about your penis size makes you look like an idiot. Having a loud and public on-camera argument with reality makes you look like an idiot.

But you know what else makes you look like an idiot? When you’ve got actual important things to talk about and you let your opposition sideline your entire message with this nonsense. Ultimately, it does not matter what the names of our political parties are, or how big our respective body parts are, or if we’re really bad at counting people. But if we can spend four years talking about stuff that doesn’t matter when so much critical stuff is happening all around us, we are really, really done for.

I don’t remember any Presedential debate that ONLY discussed the size of anyone’s “member”. What was it you were watching?

I remember watching a Republican Presidential debate where that was discussed.

Possessed said:

I was feeling very depressed today. Then I found out my best male friend is moving like 6 hours away. It sucks. That was the only guy I really hung out with anymore. I’m basically just one of the girls now lol

Sorry about that, Possessed. That stinks.

CatBus said:

The past few days have been, to me, the definition of how Democrats always, always, always fall for it.

For the past decade or so, Republicans have made a habit of getting the name of the Democratic Party wrong,

???

SilverWook said:

Warbler said:

I think that children(under 18) of politicians should be off limits or at least handled lightly. It should be remembered that children(especially those younger than 17) have no say in whether or not their parents run for office.

The line has been a little fuzzy at times. With the rare exception of Glenn Beck, (who was soundly criticized for remarks made on his radio show) everybody avoided touching the Obama daughters. Bush II’s twin daughters were in their late teens as stories of their partying antics, (and giving their secret service detail migraines) began circulating. Robot Chicken regularly made fun of them.

Obama’s children were much younger than Bush II’s.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Show me one practical way that it does.

Jetrell Fo said:

Tyrphanax said:

Warbler said:

Tyrphanax said:

Trump seems to be signing an absolute shitload of executive orders despite having the entire government mostly in agreement with his policies.

and here I thought Republicans didn’t like rule by executive orders. I thought they wanted Congress to have a say in these things.

It’s okay when it’s their guy, but not when it’s a legally, democratically-elected President who’s being gaslit by the republican majority who openly vowed to gaslight him at every turn.

It’s a legally, democratically-elected Republican President that will have his own Congressional issues.

it matters in that it brings to question: is the above fact or alternative fact?

He is legally elected.

Whether he was democratically-elected by your definition thereof is completely meaningless.

We will have to agree to disagree.

I’m still waiting for you to show that it has some meaning that matters to anyone but you, but okay.

Could of sworn I did that, but okay.