Warbler

Chlorine said:

Duderte is an American hero.

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Jeebus said:

The guy favorably compared himself to Hitler!

I thought we(as in the USA) weren’t getting along with Duterte?

not even Trump . . .

DuracellEnergizer said:

I used to have tremendous respect for Bill Nye. Then I watched this and this.

What the heck were those two videos from? The first video was horrible. I am going to have to listen to whole lot of Sinatra and Pavarotti and other high quality music to get over that. A Constitutional Amendment should be passed to prevent her from performing ever again.

Everyone has a right to an opinion. Hitler had a right to his opinions, George Wallace had a right to his opinions, the KKK has a right to their opinions. I have a right to opinions I was offering up when I was changing the name on the quotes of a certain person’s posts.

Well, the so called President called Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas again.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/04/28/trump-elizabeth-warren-pocahontas-nra-sot.cnn/video/playlists/president-donald-trump/

“I have a feeling that in the next election you’re going to be swamped with candidates, You’ll have plenty of those Democrats coming over and you’re going to say, 'No sir, no thank you, no ma’am, perhaps ma’am — it may be Pocahontas, remember that”

TV’s Frink said:

Any collection of human beings contains an unfortunate number of shitty human beings. Just look at the entire Republican party.

I kid…kind of. Moderate Republicans are becoming extinct.

Don’t forget about us RINOs(Republican in name only) that voted for Hillary.

TV’s Frink said:

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And here’s the transcript.

https://apnews.com/c810d7de280a47e88848b0ac74690c83/Transcript-of-AP-interview-with-Trump?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Politics

TRUMP: No I have, it’s interesting, I have, seem to get very high ratings. I definitely. You know Chris Wallace had 9.2 million people, it’s the highest in the history of the show. I have all the ratings for all those morning shows. When I go, they go double, triple. Chris Wallace, look back during the Army-Navy football game, I did his show that morning.

AP: I remember, right.

TRUMP: It had 9.2 million people. It’s the highest they’ve ever had. On any, on air, (CBS “Face the Nation” host John) Dickerson had 5.2 million people. It’s the highest for “Face the Nation” or as I call it, “Deface the Nation.” It’s the highest for “Deface the Nation” since the World Trade Center. Since the World Trade Center came down. It’s a tremendous advantage.

I read the article and the transcript. Trump is not slamming 9/11, quite the opposite, he is showing that more people are interested in the crap reporting than they were with 9/11. And sadly, he is correct to say that it has bee a benefit to him. In fact, it helped get him elected, and they still can’t stop complaining instead of fixing what they did wrong to get him there.

You are truly amazing.

I get that you’re laughing at me, but why? This is a slap at the media, and the media did help him win, not 9/11. There is a method to the madness and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to think up the method.

I’m not laughing at you, I just can’t believe the things you think you’ve read when it’s plainly clear he’s simply bragging about ratings, and doing so with a despicable comparison to the ratings from coverage of 9/11.

Why do you believe there is only one possible interpretation of what he said?

I give up.

TV’s Frink said:

darth_ender said:

Chlorine said:

What does our dear leader Frink think of John Kasich?

I bet he thinks you’re a sock.

I bet I’m not the only one.

I bet you are correct.

CatBus said:

SilverWook said:

Handman said:

I hear they put the 1891 monument in storage, which is better than simply destroying it. I think it’s important to remember not just what we value now, but what we once valued in the past, this includes the bad. The monuments are physical evidence of this. We never valued Benedict Arnold, but we do value all the innocent lives lost in the conflict, and once valued the lives of people like General Lee, who I honestly can’t fault for fighting the Union anyway, the guy might be the worst Confederate figure to point at for dishonor and suppression.

In regards to the rest of the discussion, I’m in general agreement with Dom (I think this is the first time we’ve been on the same side of an issue in this thread).

http://www.neatorama.com/2014/01/01/Americas-Monument-to-Its-Most-Infamous-Traitor-Benedict-Arnold/

Wow, I guess we’re closer to naming a military base after the guy than I thought.

Also, from an art history POV, the Confederate statues are mostly just mass-produced statues of the same guys over and over with different plaques underneath. They could probably destroy close to 700 statues and still have the complete set available for museums.

you think they are mass-produced?

SilverWook said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Okay, so now husezni knows who complained about him, can we move on?

😦

Wrong. 😉

For the record, I was the guy that complained about husezni.

Jetrell Fo said:

I don’t believe they’re debating it warbler. I believe husezni is speaking in layman’s terms to explain what had been posted and coffee encouraged the sharing of opinions even if they weren’t the same as others.

This is just how I am seeing it though. I could very well be wrong.

whatever you want to call it, it doesn’t belong here in this thread.

thejediknighthusezni said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Thanks everyone for being so nice and trying to help me. I’m currently in a situation that would make seeking professional help impossible, so you guys and a handful of real-world friends are all I’ve got. I don’t deserve any of you. Thank you.

EDIT: Husezni, if you have advice, even if it’s contrary to everyone else’s, you’re welcome to share it. I didn’t make my post to start debates among people trying to help me, no matter how wrong you think they are. So if you have ideas for solutions to my problem, tell me, because arguing with Ender, or anyone else, is pointless for all involved.

I just find CLARITY where there was muddle to be supportive and comforting.

The Powers That Be have spent many centuries deliberately creating muddle confusion and error where it should be simple.

Underneath it all, people KNOW.

Everyone with at least three functioning brain cells comes equipped with the ability to readily recognize Truth and the right Way. TPTB try mightily to interfere and prevent realization. Above all, they try to create characters who try to substitute their own sick nonsense and as much as half-believe that it is Truth.

I would urge anyone to develop the habit of carefully examining questions with great skepticism for any position the enlightened people insist must be accepted as their own Moral Narcissist gospel. If they tell us the sky is blue, we should all walk outside and gaze upwards carefully considering for some time.

and I would urge to take this debate to another thread. It doesn’t belong here.

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

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Warbler said:

Warbler said:

You can argue that the Civil War statues shouldn’t be removed, but the statue honoring a white supremacist uprising definitely had to go.

Civil War, white supremacist uprising. You say tomato…

huh?

You say tomato, I say tomahto–it’s an old song. It means that there is no significant difference between those words.

I’m not so sure you can say there is no significant difference between a white supremacist uprising and the Civil War. I think the Civil War was bit more complicated than that.

It took a lot longer to put down than most other white supremacist uprisings, certainly. Other than that, I’m not really seeing it. Certainly if those cop killers honored by the statue in question had the military capacity of the Confederacy, I’m sure they’d have had delusions of statehood as well.

I’d try to argue this with you, but I don’t think you are going to listen.

Have it your way.

http://www.livescience.com/13673-civil-war-anniversary-myths.html

I never said the Civil War wasn’t about slavery. It definitely was about slavery, but I don’t think that it was the only thing the war was about. Certainly not everyone fighting for the south was doing it to preserve slavery. Some were doing so, because they had two options 1: fight against the union, or 2: fight again their own state, against their own cities/towns. I heard it said that is why Lee was fighting for the south, he could fight against the country or fight against his home state of Virginia, he chose to fight against the country.

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

Warbler said:

You can argue that the Civil War statues shouldn’t be removed, but the statue honoring a white supremacist uprising definitely had to go.

Civil War, white supremacist uprising. You say tomato…

huh?

You say tomato, I say tomahto–it’s an old song. It means that there is no significant difference between those words.

I’m not so sure you can say there is no significant difference between a white supremacist uprising and the Civil War. I think the Civil War was bit more complicated than that.

It took a lot longer to put down than most other white supremacist uprisings, certainly. Other than that, I’m not really seeing it. Certainly if those cop killers honored by the statue in question had the military capacity of the Confederacy, I’m sure they’d have had delusions of statehood as well.

I’d try to argue this with you, but I don’t think you are going to listen.

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

Warbler said:

You can argue that the Civil War statues shouldn’t be removed, but the statue honoring a white supremacist uprising definitely had to go.

Civil War, white supremacist uprising. You say tomato…

huh?

You say tomato, I say tomahto–it’s an old song. It means that there is no significant difference between those words.

I’m not so sure you can say there is no significant difference between a white supremacist uprising and the Civil War. I think the Civil War was bit more complicated than that.

Warbler said:

You can argue that the Civil War statues shouldn’t be removed, but the statue honoring a white supremacist uprising definitely had to go.

Civil War, white supremacist uprising. You say tomato…

huh?

You can argue that the Civil War statues shouldn’t be removed, but the statue honoring a white supremacist uprising definitely had to go.

Jetrell Fo said:

Rogue-theX said:

darthrush, please do not use marijuana at this time in your life, wait until you are in your late 20s for that if you still want to try it at that time, I assure you it really can fuck up/contribute greatly to fucking up your life if you end up liking it as much as I did when I was in high school. Its not harmless, it can mess up a developing brain, it can be addictive.
Get a hobby instead, a non weed hobby. Please don’t do what I did. Weed wont fill the void, but it can make the void a lot bigger.

I feel the same way. I personally never advise anyone that comes to me to self-medicate. It’s dangerous and could very well have permanent consequences in many areas of one’s life. Seeking assistance through medical outlets and their respective professionals is a far better way to get started on the path to clarity. My daughter took Taekwon-do classes and it really gave her some positive support. A good number of YMCA’s or YWCA’s may carry a program for free and it gives one the opportunity to connect with others your age who may well be feeling the same way.

This is good advice as well, I never intended to imply that it wasn’t.

thejediknighthusezni said:

darth_ender said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Long story ahead. I may fall asleep soon after posting it, so if anyone replies, I may not see it for a while. Not that anyone should really pay attention to the ramblings of a random teenager, but… idk. Whatever. Here goes…

This story begins about two weeks ago when I went to a sort of camp thing for a few days. It was fun and all and things were going well, and suddenly things got even better for me. I met a girl who actually seemed to enjoy my company. Hell, at one point she even seemed to get adorably giddy to see me. We talked for a long time and she actually seemed like she enjoyed talking to me. ‘Holy ****, she might actually like me!’ I thought. It was a first. Suddenly, I began to delude myself into thinking I was completely straight, and so that night I was happy, happier than I’d been in a long time.
The next night was a “dance,” a raucous affair that I didn’t want any part of. For the most part, it was miserable. I stood around anxiously hoping to not be noticed by anyone (except her) and stared into the colorful lights (which in a strange way was somewhat calming, even if undoubtedly bad for my eyes). Eventually, the girl found me and we spent most of the night sitting against the wall in the back and talking, but it was getting late and my anxiety kicked in hard as usual, so I kept asking her if I was bothering her, but she kept insisting that I wasn’t. Then, my hopes jumped up way too high and I stuttered out a stupid question. Upon my asking, she sighed and admitted that she had a boyfriend. She did give me her phone number though, which is more than anyone ever has before really.
Anyway, the camp ends and we part ways. We text each other for a while but eventually I realize that she in fact did not purge my faggotry and I’m still bi at best, but then I felt guilty. I felt like I was somehow lying to her, or to myself, or to someone. I haven’t texted her in a few days because I figured it was pointless to make myself feel even more miserable. So now it’s all back; the intense fear of God, the feeling that I’m some kind of fraud, the suicidal thoughts accompanied by the fear that I’d go to hell, so killing myself would make things worse. Last night it was really bad and I couldn’t bear it, so I just dumped it all on a friend of mine late at night (having no prior knowledge of my faggotry, but he seemed pretty chill about it). It made me feel a little better, but I still have no idea what to do about any of it. There’s no way I could tell my parents about any of this lest they expidiate my inevitable trip to hell, and any time I try to talk to my mom about any of my other problems it doesn’t go well (like a month or so ago when I brought up the frequent beatings I took in middle school locker rooms a few years back and she denied ever knowing about it despite me having brought it up several times). I can’t tell my father any of my problems lest he become even more disappointed in me. I’m still not the Super Star Athlete Son™ he always wanted and I have nothing but contempt for mindless, barbaric athletic competition. He treats that as a personal failing on his part so he continually forces me to partake in mindless, barbaric athletic competition. If I told him any of my problems, he’d probably treat those as woeful failings of his as a parent and as a person, and he’s so fundamentalist that I wouldn’t be surprised if he took me to he edge of town and stoned me if he found out about my faggotry.

I don’t even know what I’m trying to say at this point. I’m just tired of feeling guilty any time I have any kind of affection for anyone, tired of being a lousy son, tired of wanting to die and being too afraid to, tired of being afraid of God, and just tired in general.

Feel free to ignore this post, I’m a mess and I just needed to vent.

Luke 18:9-14 New International Version (NIV)

The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector

9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’

13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’

14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”

With whom did Jesus prefer to spend his time: those who tried to define society’s righteousness based on their understanding of the scriptures, or SINNERS WHO CAME TO HIM LOOKING FOR FORGIVENESS.

The trouble with the interpretation of the Pharisee and Tax Collector in THE CHURCH OF WHAT’S HAPPENING NOW is the standard misinterpretation of “judging”. Christians are called to exercise careful judgement of all actions at all times. Their own conduct first of all, and THE CONDUCT OF OTHERS.

The sinfulness of others doesn’t diminish one’s own in the least. LIKEWISE, one’s own sin does not reduce the evil of others in the tiniest degree.

The Problem with the Pharisee was not that he recognized that unrepentant robbers and adulterers were awful characters deserving harsh judgement, it was that he thought HIS GOOD WORKS made him a vastly superior being above fellow people who REPENT. That sort of haughtiness is a great sin.

People can be appalled by the evil of others and by their own sinfulness AT THE SAME TIME. These ARE NOT mutually exclusive, in spite of what the enlightened “churches” would suggest to us.

This isn’t a thread for religious debate.

TV’s Frink said:

For all you guys struggling right now.

Ditto! Sorry I don’t have much in the way of advice. This problems you guys are having are over my head. I feel as if I don’t have the expertise to offer advice. Handman’s and DominicCobb’s advice looks good to me, I would listen to it. DarthEnder’s advice also is good.

Rogue-theX said:

darthrush, please do not use marijuana at this time in your life, wait until you are in your late 20s for that if you still want to try it at that time, I assure you it really can fuck up/contribute greatly to fucking up your life if you end up liking it as much as I did when I was in high school. Its not harmless, it can mess up a developing brain, it can be addictive.
Get a hobby instead, a non weed hobby. Please don’t do what I did. Weed wont fill the void, but it can make the void a lot bigger.

This is good advice.

yhwx said:

Quick non-binding poll: Do you all want me to come back as a regular poster at OT.com?

Sure, why not? You never caused me any problems as far as I can recall.

SilverWook said:

chyron8472 said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

After seeing the Satanist/atheist version of The Ministry/Crucifixion ON RESSURECTION SUNDAY, I hope the Vatican keeps O’Reilly until they all go off to Hell.

What the heck are you rambling on about??

I’m not sure there is such a thing as the “Satanist/Atheist version of the Crucifixion”. I mean, what?!? …Unless you’re talking about the film “The Last Temptation of Christ”. Yes, that film is all kinds of straight up wrong.But then, if you object to it, why would you watch it? And on Easter Sunday?

Even so, what does Easter have anything to do with Bill O’Reilly and why should “the Vatican keep [him]”?!?

Maybe it has something to do with one of Bill’s books?

I think last year National Geographic did a movie of that book. But I don’t recall it being Satanic or Atheist.