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- #1094443
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- Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Personally I think the outrage is pretty premature. But the best I can tell there is at least one legitimate criticism of the concept (rather than the nonexistent execution). Essentially, the idea being that showing an alternate history where things are worse to some extent absolves the problems of the present (as opposed to a future story where things are worse, which would be a cautionary tale). Basically it’s a thing where you can point to it and say “look how much worse race relations could be, so don’t complain!”
I have no idea if there is any intent whatsoever by the series creators to try to absolve the problems of the present or to say that people shouldn’t complain now. I have no idea as to what political positions the creators of the show hold.
I don’t think the Nazi takes place in an alternative future.
I am not sure understand what you are saying here
I think he’s trying to say that this show will belittle the problems of now by showing how much worse it could have been. It might read as trying to shut up people who have problems with race relations now.
Also, I’m not sure what the writers/directors intend matters here. It’s how it reads off to the viewer.
- can we tell how it will read to viewer until it airs and we actually see it?
- I am sure it is possible to do a show without it coming off like that.
- I think the writers/directors intent does matter(so does how it come off to the reasonable viewer).
- I think the writers/directors intent does matter especially when there is no show actually watch with which to judge.
- Couldn’t one argue that the Nazi show would do the same to Jewish people, that it might as well read a trying to shut up people who have problems with antisemitism?
- Of course we can.
how?
By watching it!
You’re not making any sense here. I initially asked if “can we tell how it will read to the viewer until it airs and we actually see it”. You said “of course we can”. I asked how. Saying “By watching it” does not answer that question. I was asking if we can tell how it will read to the viewer, BEFORE it airs.
Then I change my answer to:
Of course we can’t!
ok then.
- If I wrote something that made people think that I was a Nazi, that’s probably a failure of me as a writer even if I didn’t intend that.
yes, that does not quite mean the the directors/writers intent does’t matter. You are just talking about one specific situation.
Tell me more!
You were talking about one specific instance, I am was talking about in general. I think there is a big difference accidentally having something read a negative and purposefully having something read negative.
I believe that the distinction between having something accidentally read as negative and purposefully read as negative is a pointless one.
I totally disagree with you here, but I don’t see anyway to convince you that it is not pointless.
- Yes!
yet the this show is receiving complaints while the Nazi show is not.
The situations and context are probably different!
how so?
The historical context between World War II and the Civil War are different. People think about them in different ways.
yes. most regard the Nazis as much more evil and vile than the Confederates. Yet we can make a show about the Nazi’s winning but not the Confederates.
There also might be a great deal attributed to the seemingly random nature of the universe. Sometimes things blow up for whatever inscrutable reason when other similar things don’t. Randomness!
possible.
- I’m not sure I understand what you’re trying to say here.
did you mean this as a joke?
what
No!
At least partially, no!
I guess you are do not understand what I am saying in regards to point 3.
You’re not totally wrong but you’re not really right either.
Ok please explain to me what part of what I said, that you do not understand.
