Warbler

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

I wasn’t talking about why you give me flak. I don’t think you have given me flak. I was talking about why Frink is giving me flak. I am pretty certain that if I were black held the opinions that I hold, he would not be giving anywhere near the amount of flak he has given me.

Yeah no shit.

Colorblindness is not a virtue in a world lacking equality.

was the world less lacking in equality in the 1980’s? Cause I am pretty sure back then colorblindness was seen as a virtue.

*sigh*

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The problem is, that would probably have been someone whom tended to Southern soldiers. You’d be hard pressed to find someone in Charlottesville that had tended to the Northern Soldiers.

Question is it know how many of the nazis that were there were actually from the Charlottesville area?

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

But what does she have to do with the history of Charlottesville?

There was this march there, recently. It’s been in the news. There were Nazis.

So you what her there are an anti-nazi statue. Maybe. My point was I don’t think she ever even stepped foot in Charlottesville.

But seriously, I don’t know much about Charlottesville. If there are local Jewish figures up for consideration, I’d say move them to the top of the list.

That might be a good idea.

Just the remind the Nazis that they absolutely will be replaced, every last one, with decent people.

absolutely.

But what does she have to do with the history of Charlottesville?

I wasn’t talking about why you give me flak. I don’t think you have given me flak. I was talking about why Frink is giving me flak. I am pretty certain that if I were black held the opinions that I hold, he would not be giving anywhere near the amount of flak he has given me.

darthrush said:

I don’t know if this is the right thread but I think it is…oh well…here it is:

This past summer, things with both my friends and family have been crashing and burning. On one hand, I had hung out with a girl everyday for a month straight, became best friends with her, grew super close to her and her family. Short story; I didn’t have the confidence to make a move despite how obviuos it was that she liked me. She eventually just moved on and started dating someone else. I ended up losing all of my previous friends because I had hung out with this girl a lot and she was popular and had some past issues with one of my old friends.

My family and I have a really tense relationship because of how open I am becoming about my beliefs when it comes to religion and God. They are obviously getting shaken to their cores, and there have been some emotionally distressful arguments that got really personal. They just began attacking nothing but my character and my lack of respect for God.

This next year I have some serious academic challenges that I took upon myself with my classes and I feel almost no motivation to maintain my 4.0 for the last two years of highschool. I just am not seeming to care as much when my family will eventually disown me and I am starting to isolate myself from everyone.

In response to all of this I think I maybe made a mistake. I’ve done my fair share of pot before but never felt the need to come back to it and could go weeks without it. It just made everything a little funner and cooler. After a rough summer I decided to switch it up and get some booze instead for the first time.

And after a few nights of it, I feel like it is affecting me a lot differently than pot. Pot would just be an enhancement of reality, whereas when I get drunk I just feel like I can escape. And after every night, the next day I would just think about doing it more. This never happened with pot. And when I start drinking I can’t seem to stop. I have been getting shitfaced drunk a lot now and noticed that I will tremble a lot if I miss a day or two, and I really look forward to my evenings of escape like nothing else in my life. It seemed like the solution but I am scared that I am falling in a trap and risking future addiction. It’s just so much different than weed. When I say that the whiskey will just make me forget about all my problems and shortcomings, it couldn’t be more true. And when I’m sober, it is all I can think about. My shortcomings and failures and problems that I am having with friends and family. Alcohol just takes me away from it all. It’s so blissful and even being gone for a week for a family vacation sounds like hell cause I won’t be able to drink for a full week. I just don’t know right now. And the more I freak out about this stuff, the more I drink.

Quit the Alcohol while you still can. You don’t want to become an alcoholic. The alcohol might be making you feel better know, but if your drinking continues I think that will cease to be the case. Also you don’t want the kind of trouble that kind of drinking can be to your liver.

btw, just how are getting the alcohol? You say you are still in highschool, so you can’t possibly be 21.

Maybe what you need to do with your parents is see if you get to a point with them where the both of you and agree to disagree about religion. If that is possible.

ah, so that is why the bullsh** detectors went off. (just to make clear, I mean that Jerrod Kuhn set them off, not Catbus)

This 😦

does not really look like much of an unhappy face to me. It looks more like an annoyed face rather than an unhappy face.

definitely a comic genius.

R.I.P. Mr. Lewis 😦

moviefreakedmind said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:
Some police officers will often over-eseclate a situation for a minor violation.

It might happen. And I agree once is too many. But certainly not all officers are like that. We also have to consider that sometimes they may have good reasons to take actions we don’t understand, because we don’t have their training and experience.

A lot of them do, regardless of race. They like to jump people and bring them down hard even if the offense was non-violent.

A lot? the majority?

I have no faith in their training or experience.

maybe not, nonetheless we have no training or experience. We need to keep that in mind when we judge things. That is one of the reasons I like to get Ferris’s take on things when it involves cops doing things that may or may not be legit.

That said, cops tend to depend on the department.

You whether they are good or bad cops depends on the department they are from? I could agree with that. Some police departments are better than others.

Certain cities have great cops while others are notoriously horrible, like Detroit, New Orleans, or Los Angeles. The police department in the city I’m in now is wonderful, while the cops in the nearest neighboring city are horrible.

and I agree, the bad ones need fixing.

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

I will say this:

probably people getting stopped by cops due to race happens more often than I realize. But probably lest often than people on the other side care to admit. Do you think it never happens that a minor is stopped by cop and thinks it is because of the color of his skin when in reality it is due to something else(like violating the law)?

You place too much faith in the police system.

some place too little. They act like it is run by the KKK.

Some police officers will often over-eseclate a situation for a minor violation.

It might happen. And I agree once is too many. But certainly not all officers are like that. We also have to consider that sometimes they may have good reasons to take actions we don’t understand, because we don’t have their training and experience.

Sometimes “looking suspicious” (such as wearing a hoodie) could be reason for a police officer to stop you.

There might be circumstances where it is the right thing to do. Sometimes people might be wearing hoodies to conceal their identity.

I still resent and am offended by Frink’s treatment of me and attitude towards me due to my skin color. It is not right.

Yes, and black people used to get lynched.

two wrongs don’t make a right. (to be clear, I am not saying that what Frink is doing is in any way as bad as lynching someone)

It also won’t help minorities.

Source?

How about you quote me a source where it says treating me like shit and giving my attitude is going to help minorities.

I think it is ridiculous that I get flak for daring to state an opinion while white. It is probably also one of those logical fallacies. I pretty sure refuting an argument by attacking the skin color of the opinion holder, is not logical valid.

You don’t get flak just because you are white. You get flak because your opinions are wrong.

No, I get flak for being white. Do you think Frink would give me the same flak if I were black and still held the same exact opinions? You know he wouldn’t.

You think I like that it occurs? I don’t, I hate it.

I agree. One time is too many.

I will say this:

probably people getting stopped by cops due to race happens more often than I realize. But probably lest often than people on the other side care to admit. Do you think it never happens that a minor is stopped by cop and thinks it is because of the color of his skin when in reality it is due to something else(like violating the law)?

I still resent and am offended by Frink’s treatment of me and attitude towards me due to my skin color. It is not right. It also won’t help minorities.

I think it is ridiculous that I get flak for daring to state an opinion while white. It is probably also one of those logical fallacies. I pretty sure refuting an argument by attacking the skin color of the opinion holder, is not logical valid.

I never said going to bed and clearing my head would suddenly change my opinions.

saying one race can and one race can’t, is a wrong.

Now, I am going to bed.

I need to clear my head and start fresh tomorrow.

Those are examples of when Frink tries to justify a wrong by bringing up white privilege and wrongs done to black people.

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

What a banal argument we’re having. Only a matter of time until the middle finger pic, or at least the threatening of it.

I am just sick of people going “white privilege” as if it the answer to racial debates. Its ridiculous.

It’s not an answer to racial debates, it just describes behaviors that many people exhibit.

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

What are the two wrongs? What’s being made into a right here?

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

well, do I get decide to define color blind, as treating people equally without regard to the color of their skin? Nope.

Do I get to decide that thug doesn’t mean anything racially? nope.

Do I get to decide that a white homeless guy isn’t privileged? nope.

But black people can decide the opposite. That seems to be the way thing work.

White privilege.

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

TV’s Frink said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

yhwx said:

Warbler said:

I guess the only way to fix this is to give the NAACP all the rights to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary and then they can “correct” all the definition of words therein.

Also not how anything works.

It sure seems like certain black people think only black people can define what words mean.

TV’s Frink said:

Holy shit dude.

Beat me to it.

well, do I get decide to define color blind, as treating people equally without regard to the color of their skin? Nope.

Do I get to decide that thug doesn’t mean anything racially? nope.

Do I get to decide that a white homeless guy isn’t privileged? nope.

But black people can decide the opposite. That seems to be the way thing work.

White privilege.

take white privilege and shove it up your ass

I am honestly sick and tired of this shit from you. It seems to be your “go to” for everything in these racial discussions.

It’s only my go to because you keep displaying it.

Why do you care so much that you aren’t allowed to say certain words because you’re white? Because you’re white, you can’t say the n-word. Meanwhile, because other people are black, they can’t assume they won’t get pulled over by the police because they are black. That’s the very definition of white privilege. The worst thing you have to deal with because you are white is not getting to decide what “thug” means. Get over it.

yhwx said:

that is how I feel.

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

Warbler said:

But tell me often do you think a cop real knows the race of the person he pulls, before he pulls them over? Remember the cop has to see the driver through the sometimes tinted windows of a moving car(unless the windows are down or we are talking about a convertible). Sometimes this would need to be done at night.

Jesus Christ.

Lol!

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I was trying to quote Warbler’s post and was laughing at how silly it is. Anyone who’s ever driven a car knows how easy it is to look at people in other vehicles.

sometimes I can, sometimes I can’t.

yhwx said:

What a banal argument we’re having. Only a matter of time until the middle finger pic, or at least the threatening of it.

I am just sick of people going “white privilege” as if it the answer to racial debates. Its ridiculous.

Two wrongs don’t make a right.