Warbler

RicOlie_2 said:

Warbler said:

RicOlie_2 said:

I am quite prepared to commit to celibacy, and would very much not want to marry and be a priest (waaay too much work, and the stress of having to devote oneself to both a family and a parish would be unbelievable).

The Pastor of my church seems to manage ok with both a family and the church to take care of.

Being a Protestant pastor is a job.

I assure you being a Protestant Pastor is more than just a job.

A (decent) priest doesn’t have set working hours.

Neither does my Pastor.

He should be free to go to the hospital in an emergency in the middle of the night.

My Pastor does this.

He should be free to run ministries in the evenings with his parishioners and do house visits.

My Pastor does this too.

He says Mass at least once a day and is always available to hear confessions.

That my Pastor of course does not do.

He devotes himself entirely to his parishioners.

My Pastor is very devoted to the church and its congregation.

There is simply no comparison between the job description of a Protestant pastor and a Catholic priest.

I am not certain you really understand the job description of a Protestant Pastor.

Jay said:

The deplatforming of Alex Jones
Alex Jones was deplatformed in a coordinated effort by major media companies. Agree with him or not (I don’t watch the guy, I know him mostly from the whole Sandy Hook thing and some memes), having corporate entities who are powerful enough to instantly erase someone’s online presence because the company’s management doesn’t agree with their views should concern everybody, regardless of politics or personal feelings.

Who cares though, right? It’s Alex Jones. That guy’s insane! The point is that everyone should care when major publishing platforms can shape political discourse by silencing or amplifying certain voices. Anyone who claims to be concerned about Russian interference in our elections via social media and isn’t concerned about what happened to Alex Jones is making their decisions based on ideology and not law or right vs. wrong.

I not really sure exactly what happened to Alex Jones, but what you say does sound concerning. However, Alex Jones is a nut job. I don’t know how any sane person could think otherwise.

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

For those who have been following my current emotional dilemma… it seems lunch isn’t happening, but it’s just going to be us two and another friend at this big fair. She helped put together my costume and I bought her ticket. We’re carpooling… so I think I’ll start this talk on the way home. Enjoy the time we’ve got and go from there. Very nervous, but after I managed to cry (yes, I ended up forcing myself to cry yesterday, don’t tell Dom) I feel a little better.

Good for you, really. The crying I mean. I wish I could make myself cry, I’ve tried many times and it’s never worked. I have very inactive tear ducts and I appreciate every chance I get to make use of them - always a very cathartic experience.

Anyway, I’d caution you to slow way down with this friend. Based on your past posts here, it seems like a) you don’t have many friends or good friends, and b) you’ve had poor success in terms of dating. Which tells me it’s possible that due to the desperations of a limited pool, you may be jumping to a conclusion about your feelings for this friend that might not be up to snuff. I’m just speculating here of course. It may seem like you’re “in love” with her but that may not be the case. There’ve certainly been times in my life when I thought I loved someone and couldn’t think of anything but them for weeks or months. But, when things inevitably didn’t work out, and I got over it, I was able to look at things with a critical eye. In some cases, yeah I was in love. But in most, not at all. Basically what I’m saying is I wish I had someone to knock some sense into me and tell me to actually consider if it made sense for me to be with that person.

All I’ll say is, if you struggle for friends as much as you say you do, I’d be very careful about jeopardizing a relationship with someone you consider your best friend, which is typically exactly what a declaration of love would do. In my opinion, you should not say anything and wait it out and see if your feelings are true, and if it seems like there’s a possibility she feels the same. If you absolutely must tell her (which again, don’t recommend), I’d be careful not to make a big deal of it and not to say that you “love” her, just indicate that you might have feelings for her and ask her how she feels - there’s a precarious line between seeming honest and seeming creepy.

When did telling someone you love them become something creepy?

People sometimes get freaked out when you tell them you love them even when you’re in a relationship with them. The word carries a lot of weight, and hearing it from a friend can definitely be extremely overwhelming and off-putting.

Imagining myself on the other side, hearing a friend tell me they love me would absolute freak me out and probably discourage me from a potential relationship. Whereas, if they came to me rationally and said they might have feelings, and wonder if I ever considered the same, I would probably think on it a bit and might even go for it (depending on my preexisting feelings for them). The thing is this: when someone tells you they love you, it puts an immense pressure on the person being told. They feel this immense need to respond - like they need to either say it back, or reject right away. Chances are incredibly high that she won’t feel the same - in terms of “loving,” again very strong word - so she’ll feel the need to reject it outright. Whereas, if someone comes in a much less direct and emotionally charged way, saying ‘hey, I might have feelings,’ there’s a space where there isn’t that feeling of pressure to either reciprocate or reject, and they can just think about it without feeling like they’ve been cornered.

I understand that maybe they might feel like they are cornered and many times it may be better to say “I have feelings for you”, but sometimes saying “I love you” is right thing to say, depending on where the couple in question are in their relationship. I mean if you can’t I love you, how are you ever going to get to the stage in a relationship where you can ask the person to marry you?

1. We’re not talking about people already in a relationship.

DominicCobb said:

People sometimes get freaked out when you tell them you love them even when you’re in a relationship with them

2. Not every relationship ends (or should end) in people getting married.

agreed.

You’re right that saying “I love” tends to be necessary if you want to get married. Thing is, if you say “I love you,” then that could potentially imply you’re thinking long term commitment. And the other half might not be on that same page just yet. These things take time.

true.

I miss the days back when in the original politics thread, it was basically just me and the conservatives.

DominicCobb said:

Random political thought:

I’ve seen a lot of “leftists” vs. “liberals” stuff lately, and I wonder, since when did “liberals” become synonymous with specifically center-left democrats? I always thought “liberal” was just a general term that encompassed the entire left.

Funny, I saw this the other day on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlIjMJBSnRE

LordZerome1080 said:

Warbler said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Warbler said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Warb, are you seriously bothered by the fact that the advertising for the first season with a female Doctor emphasizes the fact that the Doctor is female? What the fuck did you expect? It’s advertising designed to attract an audience,

a pro-feminist audience.

Don’t understand why that’s an issue. Any network will always want to increase their viewership, same as any company will always want to increase their profits (as for television, more viewers = more profit). This is the first woman Doctor, so why wouldn’t they try to target feminists (or pro-feminists, if that’s even a thing) in their advertising?

it’s not necessarily indicative of any stance the episodes may or may not take.

I didn’t say it was indicative of any stance that episodes may or may not take

Then what’s your point?

Warbler said:

It is clear this is marketed to feminists. ugh.

So you are an anti-feminist. I’m glad you’ve admitted it, which is the first step towards solving your problem. The next step is moving out of the sexist 1950s and into the 21st century.

mods, if you want me to give this the response it deserves(which would be against the rules), I suggest you tell him to back off and not call me anti-feminist again.

DominicCobb said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

For those who have been following my current emotional dilemma… it seems lunch isn’t happening, but it’s just going to be us two and another friend at this big fair. She helped put together my costume and I bought her ticket. We’re carpooling… so I think I’ll start this talk on the way home. Enjoy the time we’ve got and go from there. Very nervous, but after I managed to cry (yes, I ended up forcing myself to cry yesterday, don’t tell Dom) I feel a little better.

Good for you, really. The crying I mean. I wish I could make myself cry, I’ve tried many times and it’s never worked. I have very inactive tear ducts and I appreciate every chance I get to make use of them - always a very cathartic experience.

Anyway, I’d caution you to slow way down with this friend. Based on your past posts here, it seems like a) you don’t have many friends or good friends, and b) you’ve had poor success in terms of dating. Which tells me it’s possible that due to the desperations of a limited pool, you may be jumping to a conclusion about your feelings for this friend that might not be up to snuff. I’m just speculating here of course. It may seem like you’re “in love” with her but that may not be the case. There’ve certainly been times in my life when I thought I loved someone and couldn’t think of anything but them for weeks or months. But, when things inevitably didn’t work out, and I got over it, I was able to look at things with a critical eye. In some cases, yeah I was in love. But in most, not at all. Basically what I’m saying is I wish I had someone to knock some sense into me and tell me to actually consider if it made sense for me to be with that person.

All I’ll say is, if you struggle for friends as much as you say you do, I’d be very careful about jeopardizing a relationship with someone you consider your best friend, which is typically exactly what a declaration of love would do. In my opinion, you should not say anything and wait it out and see if your feelings are true, and if it seems like there’s a possibility she feels the same. If you absolutely must tell her (which again, don’t recommend), I’d be careful not to make a big deal of it and not to say that you “love” her, just indicate that you might have feelings for her and ask her how she feels - there’s a precarious line between seeming honest and seeming creepy.

When did telling someone you love them become something creepy?

People sometimes get freaked out when you tell them you love them even when you’re in a relationship with them. The word carries a lot of weight, and hearing it from a friend can definitely be extremely overwhelming and off-putting.

Imagining myself on the other side, hearing a friend tell me they love me would absolute freak me out and probably discourage me from a potential relationship. Whereas, if they came to me rationally and said they might have feelings, and wonder if I ever considered the same, I would probably think on it a bit and might even go for it (depending on my preexisting feelings for them). The thing is this: when someone tells you they love you, it puts an immense pressure on the person being told. They feel this immense need to respond - like they need to either say it back, or reject right away. Chances are incredibly high that she won’t feel the same - in terms of “loving,” again very strong word - so she’ll feel the need to reject it outright. Whereas, if someone comes in a much less direct and emotionally charged way, saying ‘hey, I might have feelings,’ there’s a space where there isn’t that feeling of pressure to either reciprocate or reject, and they can just think about it without feeling like they’ve been cornered.

I understand that maybe they might feel like they are cornered and many times it may be better to say “I have feelings for you”, but sometimes saying “I love you” is right thing to say, depending on where the couple in question are in their relationship. I mean if you can’t I love you, how are you ever going to get to the stage in a relationship where you can ask the person to marry you?

ChainsawAsh said:

Warbler said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Warb, are you seriously bothered by the fact that the advertising for the first season with a female Doctor emphasizes the fact that the Doctor is female? What the fuck did you expect? It’s advertising designed to attract an audience,

a pro-feminist audience.

Don’t understand why that’s an issue. Any network will always want to increase their viewership, same as any company will always want to increase their profits (as for television, more viewers = more profit). This is the first woman Doctor, so why wouldn’t they try to target feminists (or pro-feminists, if that’s even a thing) in their advertising?

it’s not necessarily indicative of any stance the episodes may or may not take.

I didn’t say it was indicative of any stance that episodes may or may not take

Then what’s your point?

Warbler said:

It is clear this is marketed to feminists. ugh.

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

Collipso said:

most countries do at this point in time.

in democracies there are ways to solve problems without resorting to an actual revolution.

The discussion was triggered by the mention of upcoming challenges to the Voting Rights Act under the new court. I’m not sure large swaths of this country qualified as functional democracies prior to the VRA, and I see no reason to believe they’d qualify as such after it’s (hypothetically) struck down.

That said, I think the (remaining bits of the) VRA will survive, unless Trump is able to also replace Roberts or a moderate at some point in the future. But if he does, it’s toast.

Then lets not talk revolution unless and until that does happens and Jim Crow returns.

Collipso said:

most countries do at this point in time.

in democracies there are ways to solve problems without resorting to an actual revolution.

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

Warbler said:

How many times have they put someone challenging the Doctor’s authority in an ad for the show?

Seriously reaching, dude.

maybe, maybe.

ChainsawAsh said:

Warb, are you seriously bothered by the fact that the advertising for the first season with a female Doctor emphasizes the fact that the Doctor is female? What the fuck did you expect? It’s advertising designed to attract an audience,

a pro-feminist audience.

it’s not necessarily indicative of any stance the episodes may or may not take.

I didn’t say it was indicative of any stance that episodes may or may not take

How many times have they put someone challenging the Doctor’s authority in an ad for the show?

Maybe that is not the true context of the scene, but I think that is how they wanted it to look in the ad.

LordZerome1080 said:

Hence my comment

Even if I am wrong, it doesn’t necessarily make me anti-feminist.

“Why are you asking her?”

“Cause she’s in charge, bro”

“Says who?”

Obviously a guy that doesn’t want to take orders from a woman.

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

For those who have been following my current emotional dilemma… it seems lunch isn’t happening, but it’s just going to be us two and another friend at this big fair. She helped put together my costume and I bought her ticket. We’re carpooling… so I think I’ll start this talk on the way home. Enjoy the time we’ve got and go from there. Very nervous, but after I managed to cry (yes, I ended up forcing myself to cry yesterday, don’t tell Dom) I feel a little better.

Good for you, really. The crying I mean. I wish I could make myself cry, I’ve tried many times and it’s never worked. I have very inactive tear ducts and I appreciate every chance I get to make use of them - always a very cathartic experience.

Anyway, I’d caution you to slow way down with this friend. Based on your past posts here, it seems like a) you don’t have many friends or good friends, and b) you’ve had poor success in terms of dating. Which tells me it’s possible that due to the desperations of a limited pool, you may be jumping to a conclusion about your feelings for this friend that might not be up to snuff. I’m just speculating here of course. It may seem like you’re “in love” with her but that may not be the case. There’ve certainly been times in my life when I thought I loved someone and couldn’t think of anything but them for weeks or months. But, when things inevitably didn’t work out, and I got over it, I was able to look at things with a critical eye. In some cases, yeah I was in love. But in most, not at all. Basically what I’m saying is I wish I had someone to knock some sense into me and tell me to actually consider if it made sense for me to be with that person.

All I’ll say is, if you struggle for friends as much as you say you do, I’d be very careful about jeopardizing a relationship with someone you consider your best friend, which is typically exactly what a declaration of love would do. In my opinion, you should not say anything and wait it out and see if your feelings are true, and if it seems like there’s a possibility she feels the same. If you absolutely must tell her (which again, don’t recommend), I’d be careful not to make a big deal of it and not to say that you “love” her, just indicate that you might have feelings for her and ask her how she feels - there’s a precarious line between seeming honest and seeming creepy.

When did telling someone you love them become something creepy?

Starting the whole “I’m interested in you, and I was wondering if it was mutual” conversation with a professional of love is too much. It is more likely to be perceived as obsession.

Perhaps.

Possessed said:

You’re not allowed to disagree with warbler in this thread anymore remember? It’s mean to not agree with warbler and he’ll report you.

That is also an asinine response.

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

From the Dr.Who thread:

(SilverWook said no politics there)

LordZerome1080 said:

Warbler said:

LordZerome1080 said:

Warbler said:

It is clear this is marketed to feminists. ugh.

What’s wrong with that? Are you anti-feminist?

I am not what you would call anti-feminist, but I am not a feminist either.

So you are anti-feminist but refuse to admit it. I see.

An asinine response.

And here I expected you to actually bring your ‘discussion’ over.

I said wasn’t anti-feminist and someone else basically called me a liar and I told him what I thought of his response. SilverWook didn’t want politics there, so I posted here. Ok?

DominicCobb said:

Handman said:

For those who have been following my current emotional dilemma… it seems lunch isn’t happening, but it’s just going to be us two and another friend at this big fair. She helped put together my costume and I bought her ticket. We’re carpooling… so I think I’ll start this talk on the way home. Enjoy the time we’ve got and go from there. Very nervous, but after I managed to cry (yes, I ended up forcing myself to cry yesterday, don’t tell Dom) I feel a little better.

Good for you, really. The crying I mean. I wish I could make myself cry, I’ve tried many times and it’s never worked. I have very inactive tear ducts and I appreciate every chance I get to make use of them - always a very cathartic experience.

Anyway, I’d caution you to slow way down with this friend. Based on your past posts here, it seems like a) you don’t have many friends or good friends, and b) you’ve had poor success in terms of dating. Which tells me it’s possible that due to the desperations of a limited pool, you may be jumping to a conclusion about your feelings for this friend that might not be up to snuff. I’m just speculating here of course. It may seem like you’re “in love” with her but that may not be the case. There’ve certainly been times in my life when I thought I loved someone and couldn’t think of anything but them for weeks or months. But, when things inevitably didn’t work out, and I got over it, I was able to look at things with a critical eye. In some cases, yeah I was in love. But in most, not at all. Basically what I’m saying is I wish I had someone to knock some sense into me and tell me to actually consider if it made sense for me to be with that person.

All I’ll say is, if you struggle for friends as much as you say you do, I’d be very careful about jeopardizing a relationship with someone you consider your best friend, which is typically exactly what a declaration of love would do. In my opinion, you should not say anything and wait it out and see if your feelings are true, and if it seems like there’s a possibility she feels the same. If you absolutely must tell her (which again, don’t recommend), I’d be careful not to make a big deal of it and not to say that you “love” her, just indicate that you might have feelings for her and ask her how she feels - there’s a precarious line between seeming honest and seeming creepy.

When did telling someone you love them become something creepy?

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

Warbler said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

Warbler said:

It is clear this is marketed to feminists. ugh.

I didn’t get that out of it.

I am not sure how you could miss it.

The vast majority of it was showing scenes from the show, and some of the partners. Yeah there’s a cute little play on words at the end, but I didn’t think it was heavy-handed about it.

the music? The little bit where it looked like she will have to deal with the “typical male pig”?

Double post.

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Politics-2-Electric-Boogaloo/id/53003/page/840#1241833

From the Dr.Who thread:

(SilverWook said no politics there)

LordZerome1080 said:

Warbler said:

LordZerome1080 said:

Warbler said:

It is clear this is marketed to feminists. ugh.

What’s wrong with that? Are you anti-feminist?

I am not what you would call anti-feminist, but I am not a feminist either.

So you are anti-feminist but refuse to admit it. I see.

An asinine response.

Anakin Starkiller said:

That was much better, and not just because of the music.

It was a little better.