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Hi!

Using the brute method of putting that search through google, I’m coming up with the answer no, no one (here at least) has fan edited DCAoR. Here’s the closest I came up with, but not what you’re looking for
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Dark-Crystal-The-Great-Conjunction-Released/id/71960

There might be such an edit at one of the other places, but I’m not on may main computer now with those bookmarks handy so maybe someone else will have that avenue answer?

Since I’ve been following the hell out of the game for years, I’ll give something less “diplomatic” than what you (burritossocial) said/the way you put it.

Overall the “game” missed a number of unfortunate marks, but also very much hit one to a degree (as per the top post above) such that it has a small legion of lovers despite the numerous shortfallings or (far) worse.

For those who want to hear my blab on specifics, here ya go (but of course some people disagree with the likes of this):

• The combat aspect is atrocious, with numerous things about it almost in the territory of “unbelievable!” to be in place for a work that has such visual fidelity/solidity, and is a product of this day and age of gaming.

• A LOT of the planned content was cut in the end, by release, leaving an experience that seems too anemic to the player’s senses when the end is reached, even with this being a purposefully very alien, un-defined, surreal world…

• To many people, after a while it turns into a case of the emperor has no clothes. Everyone is super excited when they get the first tastes of the game, the world, but after piles of walking around solving uninspired puzzles, dealing with the same two enemy (types) over and over again — all this adding to the fact that there just doesn’t seem to be any points to the goings-on to latch onto let alone find deeply satisfying from a writing standpoint — all this leaves many players a (non-)experience that feels like “there’s no there there,” is much more like a semi-interactive art exhibit, a frustrating/boring walking simulator than a game.

• Even the artistic aspect is hobbled in some ways for those wanting to just walk around to enjoy the world. The (atrocious/lame/repetitive) enemies get in the way, plus there are invisible walls everywhere that keep the player who really wants to just walk around and admire the detail from being able to indulge in that kind of thing as much as should be possible considering the kind of “game” SCORN seems to be. (Additionally on this point, there’s no option to lower your weapon from being wielded, so for those wanting to enjoy the art and snap screen grabs, the weapon is always going to be on screen, leaving people frustratedly puzzled at why the devs can’t be bothered to have a button to lower the weapon in their piece that’s supposed to be largely about looking at the world and admire all the intricate detail.)

• Speaking of the “incredible artwork,” this game is obviously very biting off the works of Giger, but also perhaps some other famous other artists to a degree. This undermines the notion that the artistic vision and work behind this game are worthy of being bowed down to, as it could be said that they merely rode on the coattails of — used — other artists’ incredible output in a way that rather integrity-drains the one thing about the game that the makers delivered on (since the writing for the game’s happenings is a disappointing mess or is non-existent depending on the non-SCORN-lover ya talk to).

• There was a bit of drama with the devs in the kickstarter about a year before launch that looked very bad. To the showrunners’ credit they did a huge course correction in a nice grand way, which is neat, but especially with how kickstarter had grown a reputation with games that “ya shouldn’t bother funding that kinda stuff there” due to endless vaporware and more, it was pretty shocking to see the very excited backers for SCORN be treated so badly by the devs over mere very reasonable requests…such that even the devs’ attempt to turn that fully around couldn’t fully shake off all the damage they had done.

• There’s actually even more what I see as legit criticism that could be listed, but this is long enough, eh? 😃

Despite all of that being complained out, my end take is that it’s better to have this strange and neat-looking “game” out in the landscape to take a peek at for those in the mood to do so (especially since one can just experience it via watching a free playthrough video rather than paying $40 for a “game” that is more art exhibit, and doesn’t even fully nail that) than for it to have been recognized early as something that wasn’t going to fully work and be ditched.

Overall though, it is rather annoying and depressing that so much of the game misses the mark, even in little ways, is so wildly up and down between its (up=)look/world and then (down=)your main enemy is just a headless plucked chicken(thing)!!! But games that bite off this much of the “haven’t seen this kind of thing much before!” pie, very few of them seem to end up 10/10 so perhaps the inspiration wall is as much to blame here as the devs with SCORN? 🤷

Can you tell us what’s the story with the background being so different on the final frame grab (UHD)?

Master Lawdog said:

Well I don’t have that much on me, so I’m sorry, Mundungus.

It’s okay. Amazingly, just an hour ago someone in the neighborhood left out a palette with almost that much cash and “Free” sign, so I’m still going to be able to get those square watermelons anyway…but I’m going to have to get smaller ones due to being short few million so no extra slices to share. 😦

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But more seriously, I hope my breaking up the stream of pure requests to you with some silliness for a couple of posts was a tiny, fun diversion for you. (If not, my apolos.) Thanks for being such a great member of the community, M Lawdog 😃

Hi Master Lawdog! I went to archive org to access your link where you said you were giving away $100,000,000 for free, but the link had vanished. I could really use a free $100,000,000 (as there are some really expensive square watermelons I’d just LOVE to have) so can you PM a link too that dough?

Mucho thanks in advance! (And I’ll mail you a slice of right-angle watermelon as extra thanks for the hundred million smackaroos) 😃 😉 😄

Since someone else brought this thread to the front I can ask about this little thing without too much guilt…

I fully agree that the Corman dub is almost all an abomination. However, I — and I know I’m not the only one — prefer the hauntingly melancholic “Taking off” (song) in the Corman version over what is to me the upbeat-almost-goofy original Japanese and newer English versions of the song. (99.9% of the time I way prefer original language+E subs for anything.)

Does anyone have a good copy of this track (that’s better than the ones on YT)? The song is all I’m interested in.

I strongly suspect this is one of those things where the masters were thrown away decades ago and the 40-year-old Corman VHSs are the highest quality one will find, but I don’t know for sure, am not well researched in this, so seeing if anyone here…

Thanks for listening/reading.

thebiggerpictures said:

Thank you so much! I tweeted at the Director about it - he actually reached out to me this morning via Twitter and email. We are going to set up a zoom meeting for after Christmas to discuss further. Very exciting!

Wow, that’s awesome! This makes me a slight weirdo I guess, but I LOVE the “Happy Working Song” and especially “That’s How You Know” bits from Enchanted (and I love the rest of the movie too). Those two are some of my fave things on screen this century, no joke. And you get to chat with the man who made it all! Very neat-o to say the least. May it go more than well 😃

Do you pull each other’s tails?
Do you feed each other seeds?
https://youtu.be/07frAlgGSE8?t=11
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No, there is something sweeter
Everybody needs…

Hello and welcome to the site! (not that I’m anyone special here 😃)

Sounds like very hardcore work there. Impressive all over the place. Are you a pro doing this project in your spare time or just a very (very) advanced hobbyist?

Just from your one post there I very much hope Kevin Lima gets to see your work. I did a restoration on something that was directed by a big-timey person and he saw it and gave a thumbs up, which is a huge thrill of course. And you’ve likely seen the Brave Little Toaster thread, where the restorers there have some kind of contact with the director. So it’s not outside the realm of possibility.

Class316, that sounds great! But a tiny request: Can you guys do a quick encode stretching the x to a 32:9 ar for my ultra-wide monitor, do more DNR than was done to the LotR/T2 4k releases, slather the image with alternating teal and yellow tints, and add frame rate mods/effects so it always appears like soap opera 120Hz refresh motion interpolation? I know you’ll say, “Couldn’t be happier to oblige with all that!” so I’ll give a thanks now ahead of time 😃

Just being silly of course. Wow, all you guys’ work here on OT with these Fantasia’s (TonyWDA’s thread too)… fascinating watching all these releases stepping higher and higher up the quality ladder, all the approaches…! Thanks so much for sharing not only the end results but the (telling the) steps!

StarkillerAG said:

Most of these edits are on fanedit.org, so you could just look them up there. Failing that, you could look them up on Google.

That’s what I indeed did, I say thanks again for posting, SAG!

Master Lawdog said:

I’m having a weird issue with Chapter 31. It keeps skipping portions of the book and jumping around to other scenes.

Corrupted audio file, or project file? Any guess?

Thanks StarkillerAG! My only issue with that site is that it has no Star Wars, Hobbit, Spider-Man or Superman fan edits 😉

Michael Mann should also revisit THE KEEP.

This seems to sum up the issues…

https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/the-disappearance-of-michael-manns-the-keep/

I’m surprised there’s no thread for this game since ALIEN is rightfully a popular subject on this site. Here goes…

Surely some of you have bumped into this game in the past — such as seeing it as part of a “upcoming horror games for 2018” reel or similar — as it’s been in development for many years (passing its target completion dates over and over). For those who don’t know: Very generally, some designers and devs took H.R. Giger’s art(/style) along with some similar-feeling inspirations from other artists to make a full, living world. Have you ever looked at one of those strange paintings and thought, “It would be fascinating to see this brought to life as a place one could walk around in!” then here you go with such an interpretation, one that had a lot of work and thought put into it (Kickstarted 9-24-2017).

This “game” was fiiinally released just a couple of nights ago. I put game in quotes because a number of people who have played it refer to it more as an art piece than something an average gamer will find fulfilling (<-to put it diplomatically). I won’t comment on that debate; there’s plenty you can read and look up to yourself on Kickstarter, Steam, etc., so I’ll let most of that do the talking (and absolutely the debating as to whether this game, art piece, whathaveyou, lives up to what it should for all the time spent on it by the devs).

However, for cinefiles (into sci-fi) who’ve not heard of this title at all, watch a couple minutes from this cued-up point in this video/link. (Unless you watch for a good number of minute) It doesn’t really spoil anything, mostly just shows off how SCORN shines very nicely in many people’s eyes, is akin to some of the moments in almost everyone’s loved film ALIEN and/or some of that amazing 2D artwork ala certain paintings/illustrations…

https://youtu.be/5d7ozOjAlS0?t=5372

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Disclaimer: This post isn’t some plug that will earn me $ somehow, I’m not the maker of that video fishing for clicks, not a dev of the game, am absolutely not urging anyone to buy this game. I don’t have a rig that can play it so I haven’t even bought it! I just thought a look at this (cinematic) footage was on-subject enough to mention here for those interested, was worth a post. 😃

Great stuff as always! 😃

That’s incredible! When I saw the source I wouldn’t imagine that was possible on non-pro/non-studio set-up.

For the color (ala your cheap laptop) I went and did a quick tweak that I think takes it closer to realism, but maybe not? I just reduced saturation a decent amount and also shifted the color a tiny bit from the red/magenta toward the green/yellow. This isn’t remotely belittling your efforts. Just seeing if you agree and if it’s perhaps a smidge of help (or maybe it’s just not)

https://mega.nz/file/ikZgCT7B#wHTZUKyerRw6KAZbfwgmFcHaqM-i9X6ISgWM7k5C4c4

This is just a mild, not-remotely-definitive reply for you. I don’t have any LDs, caps of them or anything, but I have the BD of The Driver, that I haven’t looked at in a long time. I opened it up in VDub and it generally looks like blanket teal was applied (as you’re rather saying/showing above). I did a quick try at overall cancelling the teal and the whole thing (well, what bits I bopped through) went from looking strange to much more natural…but this is the main reason I’m posting…

One exception was the car garage scene (with the orange Mercedes). That was still very teal, didn’t look at all like the DVD frame you have above, so that’s a mystery! My casual observation is most of the BD seems recoverable(ish) for a regrade except for the car garage scene. I can’t imagine getting colors like the DVD above without the quite elaborate technique of pulling chroma from another source to replace it in that scene (a technique currently outside my wheelhouse, but I’d love do be able to do it).

Sorry I don’t have anything more solid for you, but no reply after half a day so I figured I’d offer this FWIW.

For anyone following this, I took it to PM with LeperMessiah117 because my long-winded-ness shouldn’t be slathered upon more eyes than necessary 😃

Oh, just a few trims to that third act showdown. I find it important to the catharsis of Tinky-Winky’s character at this point.

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I don’t know if it’s weird to care this much about the visual and audio fidelity of such an old anime like this, but I put so much time and effort into it, I want it to be as perfect as possible by the end of it all.

I’m of the opinion (oh, not that anyone cares!) that if you have a passion like this for something then sap it for all it’s worth, such as getting experience with achieving a higher/highest level of technical proficiency. So at least I say it’s absolutely worth it to go that distance you’re pushing for here.

Are you starting with keeping the VOBs as is and editing Womble style (no re-encoding) or are you IVTC’ing (have a good/great method for that), shooting for higher res right away?

Yay, glad it worked out for you!

Now, I just have 24 more disks to rip (for the 3rd time), then replace my old rips with the new ones in my projects and hopefully I should be golden!

Hopefully all your replacing those Teletubbies and Care Bears episode VOBs for your epic edit will go smoothly because I can’t wait for this! Yeah, I’ve long hoped that someone would do something like the extended Lord of the Rings trilogy but with Dipsy, Proud Heart Cat, Po and Lotsa Heart Elephant leading a perilous journey to the Baby in the Sun (instead of Mordor). This is going to be awesome! But my big advice for your edit is to tone down the katana fight between Professor Coldheart and Tinky-Winky. It’s just way too gory in the original. I hate censorship, but we really don’t need to see that scene of Tinky trying to catch his intestines in his purse. Yuckipoo to that!

(J/k everyone!…unless my random jokiness just happens to really be what this mystery edit is 😃)

I’ve been using old DVD Decrypter for ages.

For setting it up I use Mode->IFO. In the settings: Under the “IFO mode” tab I turn file splitting to NONE. I think that’s all that’s needed for it to give you one full VOB for a movie instead of the standard, annoying 1GB chunks.

I could be wrong but I think that’s about all you need for it to give you a nice VTS folder of a good rip. Been a long time since I set it up so I can’t remember if I checked or unchecked anything else, but of course you should look around yourself for kicks, if you even want to use DVD Decrypter.

Hi!

I have a pal (on Mac) who wants to start out just tooling around with some light fan editing, the likes of which he’s never done before, and the DVD realm is fine. The goal is for the process to be easy and great for learning, NOT to output some 2k/4k seamless fan edit masterpiece with 5.1 surround.

I always loved Womble for quick, easy, efficient fan editing, especially how (as long as you don’t use filters) there was no need to do any rendering or processing for the export. The output is just a 1:1 data copy of the original VOB file for all the bits you’re keeping, so fast, easy, saves drive space, etc.

So, yes, I’m seeing if anyone can report to me if any (simple) editing software on Mac is like ol’ Womble MpegVideoWizard. (To be clear, I don’t have a Mac; I want to help him set up/choose since I generally know more about the digital video than he does, but not when it comes to the Mac platform software.)

Thanks for reading!

TVArchive said:

The VOB files were indeed 29.97, but were encoded such that every piece of software I dropped them in to deinterlace said the framerate was 24.172. In all my years of ripping/encoding, I’ve not seen that one before. The second episode on the first disc was 29.97 but the other 3 were reporting back 24.172. Strangest thing I’ve seen. Pulldown was extremely weird! I had to run them through Hybrid to get a reliable 23.976.

Egads indeed, I’m glad I’ve never come across something like that!

Thanks for the replies 😃

TVArchive said:

Yes, they’re the standard old NTSC DVDs. The framerate is kind of wonky on these so I had to do some cleanup work on that as well.

I can’t help but be curious what the issue was. The framerate of the VOBs must be 29.97, right?.. so do you mean there were extra or missing frames throwing off the pull-down pattern?.. and/or fields swapping? I’m not well versed in dealing with those kinds of things so hearing others’ stories of how they overcame IVTC issues is interesting (to me at least), might be great info to help expand my bag of tricks in the future.

But if you’re too busy to elaborate, don’t want to go into things not having to do spec. with the upscaling, etc., no prob.

TVArchive said:

Here are some screenshots from the pilot episode, up-scaled to 1440x1080.

Okay, here are my criticisms of your up-scales. You see, when I do my up-scaling of SD material I try to be sure to… Wha-what I’m aiming at is when ya upscale ya should try to avoid… I guess I’m saying you should consider changing your techniques here by implementing… Oh, NEVER MIND (and j/k!) PHENOMENAL results! 😃

The third one’s trees’ details in the b.g., and the strands of hair in #5, wow just wow! When I clicked on the fourth one I was actually kind of expecting to be able to read the tiniest print of the newspaper clipping. Not at all a slam on you that I (of course) couldn’t. Just expressing the effect I’d already gotten by then that full/native HD was the territory we were in. And this is 2.25x vertical enlarging of mpeg2-compressed material (assuming your DVD are NTSC and not PAL?). Amazing