Vladius

What kind of confrontation could Luke have that would not result in him fighting Vader? Was he just supposed to incapacitate him? Was he supposed to talk to him and then carry on with the rebels?

Luke tells Obi Wan "I can’t kill my own father."
Obi Wan says "Then the Emperor has already won."
The killing part was Luke’s idea. Obi Wan is responding to his hesitancy to confront Vader, not whether or not he should kill him. He has to be willing to kill him if need arises, because that’s what a confrontation means (especially with lightsabers.)

Yoda and Ben are in agreement that Luke should confront (being ready to kill) Vader and the Emperor.
They tell Luke not to go in ESB because he’s not ready yet. I see this obnoxious train of thought where people think that they were wrong to do this, which couldn’t be further from the truth. The situation in Cloud City is explicitly a trap for Luke, he doesn’t have any effect on the rescue of his friends at all, he gets his hand cut off, and almost dies. (Of course it’s much better and more interesting for this to happen from a story perspective.)

Then in ROTJ he’s ready and so they encourage him to go. The emphasis is on his readiness and ability to reject the dark side, not a violence or nonviolence issue. Luke doesn’t toss aside his lightsaber because he’s a pacifist (see - the rest of the movie before that) but because he realizes he is playing into the Emperor’s game by becoming angry and vengeful in his violence. He doesn’t mope around about Vader tossing the Emperor either, or his friends blowing up stormtroopers and TIE fighters. The question is motivation, not militancy.

Rey is not a Mary Sue, though this is not the place for that discussion.
What I will say is that if you think Rey is a Mary Sue, the “wrong fuses” part is one of the areas in the movie where she screws something up, so probably don’t cut it. I also love the rathtars which I know puts me in the minority.

I really like this but I have some issues:
*The crawl is somewhat busy and asks the audience to remember a lot of concepts.
*There is a fast switch from “rescue the princess” to “retrieve the control code” that I’m not sure can be justified.
*Obi Wan never really “meets” Anakin before training him. I’m not sure how to remedy this but I think it’s a necessary emotional beat for the story.
*The three Padmes will have to be really distinct to avoid confusion (especially with the body double on top of it) and it might be better to consolidate them to two instead of three.
*The Anakin/Padme romance is difficult to fix/portray. Personally I really dislike the Jedi “repressing” Anakin/forbidden love angle of the prequels, but that’s just me.
*The distinction between Duku as a rogue Jedi and Maul as a Sith might be lost on the audience.
*Abaddon and Naboo, and Tatooine and Geonosis, will be hard to distinguish for the audience as well.

Tack said:
Also, side note; I would actually want to remove the sequence with the little girl during the Jehda City siege. In the whole movie that was the only cliché that made me groan a bit. We don’t need that to tell us that Jyn’s a good person at heart. It comes across through the rest of the film just fine.

That’s actually one of the best parts of the movie, for me. Jyn has such limited character development, and that’s part of it.
*It shows the trauma of war.
*It shows part of why Saw’s rebels are considered radicals - they don’t care about collateral damage.
*There’s not actually a lot establishing that Jyn is a good person up to that point.
*Jyn has wide eyes, partially out of surprise and concern, but also because she identifies with the little girl - abandoned (twice) as a child in the middle of a war.
*It’s sadder when the Death Star blows up Jedha City later, because we see some of its civilians as well as its fighters. It also builds the scope and threat of the Death Star - even if you save individual people, shoot stormtroopers, and do important things, it can all be wiped away in an instant.

I disliked a lot of the things people are talking about, but on a second viewing I’m fine with them. The only thing I might cut is Saw’s mind-reading alien, but it works somewhat thematically with his character and the idea of militancy.

What I really want to talk about is the possibility of my ideal saga lineup:
*Fanedit of Episode I that includes elements of Episode II to start the Clone Wars - Naboo is the first battle or instigates the conflict, maybe some other trickery is used to use the Geonosis battle sans Anakin and Obi Wan.
*The rest of Episode II is blast into oblivion where it belongs.
*Alter the crawl of a Fanedit of Episode III (pick your favorite, mine is Dark Force Rising) to make it Episode II.
*Rogue One becomes Episode III with added crawl.

Could I have an invite as well?

Smithers said:

I was actually going to keep their destination as coruscant, the movie starts of with them escaping the blockade, their destination is coruscant because they're bringing the queen there for the election. Throughout the first two acts of the movie you keep hearing about the planned invasion on Naboo so in the third act, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon go to take down Viceroy, then go down to Naboo and battle Maul.

 I definitely prefer this to the constant assertions that people are dying and suffering on Naboo somewhere. The threat of an invasion is much more interesting than an invasion that lasts the whole movie and is toothless.

You know this is all based on Ralph McQuarrie stuff right? You might lose street cred around here...

Just finished this. Definitely the best edit of the prequels I've ever seen. Even when I knew what was coming, the music ratcheted up the suspense. The dialogue is minimal and fast, communicating more with less. I love the Clone Wars montage - I have not seen another single one of these three-in-one movies that actually transitions between episodes 2 and 3 in any satisfactory way, or uses the good parts of the prequels (primarily visuals) to such amazing effect. I also compliment the use of footage from all three films without sticking to the original, rigid chronology.

My only criticism is some of the audio transitions between scenes are jarring, and in many scenes the original musical cues still poke up.

Thank goodness Anakin frees his mom. That was one of the weirdest things to never address in episode 2.

Pure genius.
If there were some way for Jar Jar to turn the tide of the whole battle (space, duel, and palace,) that would be better.
Maybe even include the episode 2 portion where he gives the chancellor emergency powers.

Watched this with two friends. We highly enjoyed it. There are two parts that seem a little short:
Anakin deciding to leave and become a Jedi. I think a truncated version of the podrace and bet would work.
Most of episode 3.

brash_stryker said:

I think seeing the same specific ship in the Prequels would be almost as ridiculous as seeing a child Han, or the existing scene of Chewbacca. Just pure fan service that shrinks the universe.

I'm all for a consistent "hero ship" throughout the PT, just not the falcon. 

 This. I say fix the writing and characterization before even touching the special effects.

I mean he's sent in to get Luke, isn't he?

Cool idea, to be sure.
The only issue I have is where does Maul go if he beats Qui-Gon?

I'm not sure you actually like Star Wars.

Bingowings said:

Extremely tangentially connected (what with the originator of this project's screen name) but I notice there are currently 666 topics on this board.

End of off topic interruption.

 I'm  glad someone else noticed...

Bingowings said:

Could help but notice that the blue and black colour scheme of the plane made it look rather like a Naboo starfighter.

 lol

Can we take a look at what this guy has to offer instead of criticizing him and being rude? This community is overly insular as it is.

Could someone PM me a link?

Art from adversity.

On an unrelated note, Dane Ditor is a cool Star Wars name.

You remembered! It was fantastic.

Regarding Luke and Han being friends, is there any way to use footage from the Yavin hangar and turn it into the Hoth hangar?

I know this is really difficult. :(