Vladius

By who, who's going to make them?

Saw this on FE, I'm pretty pumped.

Does anyone know of good footage of Ian McDiarmid outside of Star Wars? My plan is to restructure everything into one defend-the-planet movie, with the kidnapping of Palpatine taking place near the end and the killing of Dooku becoming the true turn to the dark side event.

darth_ender said:

I just want to make a point here.  We have already voted to put the funeral pyre last.  This means that Ben and Yoda (and possibly Anakin) will be seen before that, rather than after (or perhaps we'll just have to cut that part, but hear me out).  I really feel pretty strongly that if we want to see the Force ghosts, part of the conclusion would involve putting Anakin at the pyre scene.  The reason for this is because it leaves Luke ready for closure.  If he sees the ghosts including his father, then burns his father's armor and/or body, it seems like he's already had the closure and the scene is redundant.  If we simply show Ben and Yoda, he feels some closure but still feels some emotional weight.  But at the fire when he sees his father, he and the audience feel satisfied.  That's the way I see things, and I want to put in that plug before the voting gets too far along.

Shoot, I really prefer it the original way. I guess I'll just make my own remix after it's all done. :)

Wouldn't it actually be best for the Emperor's arrival to be inconspicuous?

Part of Mon Mothma's speech is "the emperor is personally overseeing the construction" which means that that part was supposed to be a secret too.

Let me just say that this is my favorite version of ROTJ and I love the use of the Luke and Leia theme at the end especially. Don't change it too much!

Johannus said:

 I'm not 100% sure but I think there is a similar garrison in the US where they have a spefic following of Endor troopers (I think it is in California, but only going from memory), which it might be more useful to get in touch with.  The reason for this is even if I find a dozen suitable costumers willing to help out in the UK, I have no idea where we could film in a woodland that would pass as Endor (though I'm open to suggestions).

 

You answered your own question! California, definitely. But if there's any Canadians around Vancouver works very well too.

I've noticed a lot of things that cut down on runtime (in a good way, of course.) Just in case the movie is dramatically shorter, have you considered using scenes from the other two prequels? My wish would be to turn them all into one film with ROTS as the base since it's the best one, and I'm working on that on my own but my edit is definitely not going to have all the cool things this one will. Not necessarily flashbacks but certain scenes, especially with Palpatine, fit in the context of all of them.

darth_ender said:

So I know I'm late on this, but I will begin to tally the votes now.  Two people have said they will vote, but they haven't gotten the chance yet *cough* fishmanleeandvladius *cough*.  I will wait a till tonight to post the vote, but once it's posted, I don't want to have to go alter all the tallies again.  Thanks for everyone's participation thus far.

I voted and you bolded my name. :V

Well, he was set up to be a really cool character. He was distinct from the other bounty hunters because he knew how to outsmart the heroes.

Just want to note as I'm voting:
The orbit of the Death Star around Endor is unrealistic compared to our Earth and Moon, but the Death Star was constructed in orbit. Also in the game Universe Sandbox, there's a pre-made sim of the DS around Endor and it works fine, based on real principles of gravity, mass, etc.

(But if you blow it up, Endor gets hit with several big chunks right away. :V)

Yeah, it could be some magical dark side disease.

I assumed it was the way it was depicted in the EU. (Up until all the Palpatine clones, of course.)
It was a major blow to the Empire, all their leaders were dead, propaganda disaster, they lose Coruscant, etc.
In other words, the conflict is no longer exciting enough to depict in the movies, because the Empire is basically waiting to be mopped up or get a new mastermind leader (like Thrawn.)
Darth Vader getting on the PA system and telling everyone that it's over seems a little redundant, not to mention abrupt with all the emotional payoff going on.

ShepardCommander said:

Vladius said:

ShepardCommander said:

2. Leading the Battle of Endor. Why they signed up Lando to command? He is betrayed once Han, do the military commanders trust him? Or Han leading the ground forces. And where the other soliders dissapeared, that only the Ewoks remain? Can't the ground team communicate the Fellet, and call in some air support to destroy the shield generator?

Someone's forgetting the little maneuver at the battle of Taanab.

Yeah, buti it's like in the prequels. " I saved you're life 9 times master!" lol :D We didn't saw and no one cared.

I cared. :'(
The main difference is that they're already developed in other ways, whereas Obi Wan and Anakin never have a very consistent relationship. Han winning the Millennium Falcon from Lando is never shown either, but it doesn't have to be.

ShepardCommander said:

2. Leading the Battle of Endor. Why they signed up Lando to command? He is betrayed once Han, do the military commanders trust him? Or Han leading the ground forces. And where the other soliders dissapeared, that only the Ewoks remain? Can't the ground team communicate the Fellet, and call in some air support to destroy the shield generator?

Someone's forgetting the little maneuver at the battle of Taanab.

Yeah, me neither. It doesn't feel much like Star Wars.

I thought it was already included in the vote and shot down.

Can we have a link to the trailer?

Tying Darth Ender's point with the larger idea of Obi-Wan leaving Anakin for dead, I think it would be better to have Anakin actually "die." He just suddenly falls silent or something. Obi-Wan leaves, and Palpatine/the armor brings Anakin back to life later on.

SilverKey said:

Good idea Gobalicious, and nice video Davnes.

Maybe Palpatine's shuttle arriving is the reason why Obi-Wan just leaves Anakin to burn? When the movie first came out, many disliked that Obi-Wan just left Anakin there to burn, and it still comes off as kind of cruel. But what if he saw Palpatine's ship arriving and he knew he had to get the hell out of there? The scene would need to be tweaked a little, but it might work.

That was the whole point.

I was with you until that picture.

Sounds pretty good. How have you accomplished the stuff with Obi Wan and Qui Gon?

I had a similar idea, with a space station orbiting Coruscant.

I still don't think that works. Obi-Wan would be running.

I have a craving for some more videos, to tell the truth.