Vladius

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QXYOC7U5yuhQAr089jiWeXZpy7J0nY0M/view?usp=sharing

Here is a sample of Anakin meeting Padame from my 3-1 cut done in HDR.

The scene was cut to flow tighter and more natural, like the dialogue between Ani and Padame.

I guess some of the cgi didn’t age too badly or did you update it because watto and think even jar jar look ok for the most part.

I thought Watto and Jarjar looked better too. No cgi work, just HDR. This is from the 1080p blurays. The Hdr just really helped balance the levels better so they blend into the scene more.

I hope there’s a way to make them look that good throughout the prequel trilogy.

Well see, Im still playing with it trying to find the right balance. Its helpful but def takes sometime

Take your time if you can get those two characters and maybe more to look good without updating the cgi you just made a miracle happen.

I think some of the scenes will be easier than other to blend. The Gungun battle will still be hard. Some of the scenes, the grass just looks like trash. Its real grass, but who ever composited it originally did a terrible job. One scene you can see the blades of grass and then the next you can’t even at the same distance. Some of that may still have to be fixed with vfx.

There is also the issue of how much I can push these images. Many of them are completely flattened. Some of them barely coming up to 350 on the scopes where as it should be spread up to 700 at least or higher when compared to the Sequel Trilogy quality.

Not only this, but also the color and vibrancy of the image. How rich can the colors go while keeping natural tones and not making the Cgi look more cgi.

Some of the scenes in the Anakin meeting Padame were brightened quite a bit to bring out the higher ends, while pulling the Blacks, Dark, and Shadow areas back down to where they should be. The fall off from light to dark should look as natural as possible. As these were older digital cameras, there are limits to what they even were able to capture with the sensor technology and software of the time. (Look at your cell phones to see how far some of this tech has come. Now compare your phone’s tiny censor to that of even an Slr camera and its huge. Specially when shooting in Raw. The information size difference is huge. So the tech then def had its limits.)

This again will effect work flow on the vfx. As if I do HDR first and color grade, then the Vfx after wont be graded in HDR as I can’t isolate objects in Davinci. So ill still have to do most the vfx first before doing the HDR. Or do some Hdr, then Vfx, then the final Hdr. Some scenes Ive already considered running HRD on twice to be able to isolate and manipulate more layers of the image. Specially in some of the washed out images during the saber battle in the reactor room.

On a separate note, I will be trying to do some of the Deepfaking and deaging on some of the added scenes from Obiwan. Ive already seen some promising examples on the Obi and Ani training scene. Of which I wont use wholesale, but I will be using parts of to show Anakin’s training after being taken on by Obiwan at the end of TPM. I had already planned to repurpose some of the youngling scenes from ATOC to show of this, but Obiwan gave some extra scenes.

Using these scenes in smaller forms means you wont be rehashing it if you watch Obiwan, as I wont be using the whole scene. So its something briefly shown in the prequels that will still be shown in more depth in Obiwan where its dialogue and message are meant for.

For those curious, in the Purist Cut, Anakin will still be the one killing the younglings as to not interfere with the Extended Starwars canon. For me though, most of what Disney has done isn’t in my canon. Except Rogue One. So for me, switching the Emperor to killing the kids doesn’t mess up my head canon and actually improves it.

So rebels the final season of the clone wars the bad batch tales of the Jedi and Jedi fallen order aren’t canon to you? because minus Jedi fallen order Dave filoni did the rest.

Na. I enjoyed Mandalorian and Rogue One but I-Vi is largely my only canon. I didn’t dig a lot of the stories even. For me, Darth Maul dies in Ep I. (I like Bobba Fet dying in Ep VI too).

I’m surprised because unlike ep 1 maul is a well developed character with a great backstory is it kinda ridiculous that he survived yes but so is a lot of stuff in Star Wars also ahsoka turned out to be a great character as well. plus the last ep of the clone wars happens before during and after revenge of the sith and in the clone wars you get to relate to anakin and it makes his downfall more tragic.

Yea I know there are many who enjoy it, Im just not one. Creates more plot holes and things that don’t make sense to me. Like Anakin not being a Master but still having an apprentice.

That’s not how you become a Jedi master you become a Jedi master after training a padawan that successfully becomes a Jedi knight she never became a Jedi knight so anakin never became a Jedi master. Side note the clone wars was created by both George lucas and Dave filoni.

I don’t think that’s true but I don’t think you have to be a master to have an apprentice either.

The thing with Ahsoka is more that you would think she would have come up in the movies at some point. That’s the problem every prequel is running into including the prequel movies themselves. Apparently Obi Wan and R2D2 and C3PO were all palling around, Obi Wan and Leia were palling around, Obi Wan fought Vader two more times, Obi Wan definitely went by Obi Wan way after Luke was born, Yoda and Chewbacca were palling around, Anakin built C3PO, etc. and no one ever talks about any of it. Rebels is the most egregious because it has three fully fledged Jedi (demonstrably more powerful than Luke ever was) plus Darth Maul, plus numerous inquisitors, and we’re somehow supposed to ignore all of it when the original movies come up.

I admit the Clone Wars episodes that go on during Revenge of the Sith are pretty good and do well explaining where Ahsoka is during all of it. Up until Rebels anyway.

MalaStrana#2 said:

Vladius said:

They should just stop making Star Wars stuff, there’s enough already

Or they could come up with new ideas.

Even Disney new ideas are now being recycled like crazy (Baby Yoda / Lil Leia / Omega, or Rey the scavanger / Ben the hobo butcher, Reva / Finn even share lots of similar ideas). They even have already did TWICE the Imperial redhead guy switching side… (never trust gingers, remember Cartman warned us about them 😄).

Maybe they could just do less but better, quality vs quantity. But when I read some comments here, I have the feeling casual fans just want to be plugged to neverending Star Wars feed with a mind elastic enough to accept basically anything (it still is incredibly laughable to consider the number of comments defending a rematch set between Mustafar and the Death Star events as “adding more depth and layers”… well, we’ve seen the quality of those layers, right…).

I don’t want them to come up with new ideas, because they’re going to execute them poorly and possibly with hatred of their own audience. People keep asking for them to do something with the Old Republic and it’s like really? You want the same people that you think just screwed up everything else to start screwing that up too?

BedeHistory731 said:

Sirius said:

Everyone wants to see Luke being a badass in the sequel trilogy,

Legends Luke was too OP and flies in the nature of the movie character, IMO. TLJ was a much more plausible Luke, but that’s a discussion for another day. Being a badass doesn’t always mean it’ll be a good and complex character.

What do you mean by plausible? Everything is made up either way. It’s more about what is satisfying.

RogueLeader said:

CarboniteSolo said:

John Williams would know exactly how to do it, I just don’t understand why they didn’t have him instead. I guess he was busy or cost too much. I know he’s getting older, so that might be another reason.

John Williams at his prime, maybe, but I think it is time for Williams to retire from Star Wars and let other composers take over. I personally think composers like Michael Giacchino and Gordy Haab, who does the music for Battlefront and Jedi: Fallen Order, can emulate the signature Star Wars music that John Williams created 40 years ago better than John Williams can in the present.

That being said, I do like Ludwig’s score for Mandalorian, which is totally different, but I can’t help but associate the classical score with Star Wars’ space opera roots. And elements of the Mandalorian theme has vibes of the Rocky theme from the 70s, as well as a mythic quality with the traditional instruments. It feels like the Kenobi score is erring on the side of generic science fiction music rather than something fitting for a swashbuckling fantasy.

I think it’s time for Williams to retire because he’s old, not because he’s suddenly bad at making Star Wars music or somehow bad at copying himself

They should just stop making Star Wars stuff, there’s enough already

jrs81 said:

For me, I hate that Obi Wan was that far gone to begin with. Buried his lightsabers to avoid detection, and a bit rusty, but that shot of him barely able to move that tool on on the ship was too much. My edit doesn’t make him quite as pathetic. Facing full powered Vader when you are rusty would be frightening under any circumstance. In my mind he doesn’t need too much to bring him back.

Agree with Revel, never want to see episode 4 again other than bacta scene and Leia taking his hand.

100% agree. Even if you think episode 4 is necessary for the “arc” of getting back to how he was, it still doesn’t do a good job of that and makes it seem really rushed. Better to just leave the idea out. There are reasons why he wouldn’t be prepared to face Vader anyway because of guilt and fear.

Yeah it all depends on what happens in episode 6. Right now it’s looking like there won’t even be another Obi Wan/Vader duel like everyone has been saying. There still might be though.

I absolutely agree with you OP and it’s one of the things that makes me irritated to no end about the current state of Star Wars and its fans. It’s tied up in prequel apologism, people not understanding the Force or what balance in the Force means, the concept of “gray Jedi,” the concept of the “light side,” and people thinking the entire series is cyclical and predestined. It’s a fake problem inferred into the movies.

Part of the issue is that modern western people have no cultural connection with Buddhism or eastern philosophy, so the idea of not being obsessed with romantic love is alien and scary to them.

You’re not, not by far. I like Solo too (sans Darth Maul). I did like The Force Awakens a lot when it came out but it was subsequently broken by what came after.

I personally prefer the pre-1999 version of Jedi and the Clone Wars, but I like Revenge of the Sith enough if the prequels have to be included, and even Phantom Menace to some extent. I don’t like Attack of the Clones.

Anchorhead said:

yotsuya said:

Yeah, not exactly the same story at all. In ANH they rescue Leia because they happen to be there, and they botch it and Leia has to get them out of the mess. I really don’t see a lot of parallels other than Leia got rescued from an imperial facility.

That’s worth noting before we get too far in the weeds on finding comparisons and similarities that are completely unintentional. As Yotsuya points out, they weren’t going to rescue her at all. In fact, they weren’t even going to the Death Star. All of that was happenstance. Just as an unrelated, remote system, farm boy even being part of the story was happenstance (before Lucas had writer’s block a few years later).

That said, there are plenty of things to criticize about this series and I’ve done so myself. However, I don’t see any of that Ring or Rhyming bullshit that some factions swear exists. If anything, this series telling a new story is one of it’s strengths.

As to its conflicting with the 1977 film, I don’t care. As an original fan from 1977, I’ve never let anything conflict with that film. I either ignore attempted connectivity or skip films entirely. Star Wars is a movie from 1977. Obi Wan Kenobi is a TV show from 2022. I have no problem whatsoever separating the two. If anything, I’d struggle to connect the two.

Okay, but it’s not just one thing, even though some of the details are different.

1. It’s Leia getting rescued from an imperial facility, by Obi Wan Kenobi.
2. Obi Wan sneaks around and uses noises with the Force to distract exactly two stormtroopers (one of my favorite parts in the original movie so I loved this but w/e)
3. The camera focuses very directly on a shot of Tala’s comlink being left on the table while Obi Wan can’t contact her, in a direct parallel to the same thing happening in the original movie with C3PO and Luke.
4. Leia is interrogated and about to be tortured for information, just like in the original movie she’s already been interrogated and tortured, and is about to be executed right when she’s saved. She resists of course.
5. There’s some disguise going on, which of course works much better in the original movie because it’s full body stormtrooper armor and not a hastily slapped together imperial officer costume with a big obvious trenchcoat.
6. And the biggest one, the Empire lets the heroes escape on purpose so that a tracking device on their ship can lead them to the rebel base.

Intentional or not.

Yeah I liked this episode (relatively), but everything significant that happened here should have happened around episodes 2 or 3 and on. Reva’s character motivation and Obi Wan and Anakin/Vader actually having moments together.

I really don’t like that they’re continuing to repeat beats from everything else. It probably is intentional at this point. This episode is of course a repeat of the Battle of Hoth and The Last Jedi also copying the Battle of Hoth.

And Obi Wan again is not showing very much agency in his own show, he just sort of moves along with whatever everybody else is doing and doesn’t talk very much.

Yeah I liked this episode (relatively), but everything significant that happened here should have happened around episodes 2 or 3 and on. Reva’s character motivation and Obi Wan and Anakin/Vader actually having moments together.

I really don’t like that they’re continuing to repeat beats from everything else. It probably is intentional at this point. This episode is of course a repeat of the Battle of Hoth and The Last Jedi also copying the Battle of Hoth.

And Obi Wan again is not showing very much agency in his own show, he just sort of moves along with whatever everybody else is doing and doesn’t talk very much.

MalaStrana#2 said:

idir_hh said:

I thought this was an interesting take:

every episode mirrors an Episode of the Skywalker saga (I-VI)
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsKenobi/comments/vacere/fan_theory_every_episode_mirrors_an_episode_of/

It’s been quite obvious so far; some fans are getting nuts about these “insane parallels” but I just find it to be poor storytelling.

Yeah I noticed it when episode 4 repeated all the same plot conventions and characters as actual episode 4. Instead of being impressed, I was disgusted that they thought that justified what they were doing.

Cut all but the most bare minimum scenes that have Leia (by herself) or Reva in them. The only part with the inquisitors I would really want to keep is Owen’s “like you trained his father” scene. Delete most of episode 4 and have Leia just get on the ship from the tunnel. Have Vader do an honest effort to actually kill Obi Wan and not let him escape, or imply that he is letting him go to try to find others.

Probably going to impossible to fix in the end anyway due to something else cropping up in episodes 5 or 6.

MalaStrana#2 said:

Vladius said:

I mean it’s okay to have it be around the Skywalkers because the main characters are supposed to be Obi Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker.

Anakin wasn’t supposed to be a main character of this show though. It’s the latest developments which added him.

I agree with that too. I’m mainly going off of what they SAID the show was going to be like.

I had to get a root canal today and while I was in the chair I kept thinking about how I would do this show lol

DrDre said:

Liked the first episode quite a lot (8/10), thought the second was oke (6/10), found the first confrontation between Obi-Wan and Vader to be simultaneously cool, and underwhelming (7/10). However, this fourth episode is just plain bad:

1. Episode doesn’t move the story along one bit, instead giving us the second Leia rescue in four episodes. The infiltration of an Imperial base or something similar has been done too many times already.
2. There’s hardly any character development.
3. The base nobody would be stupid enough to attempt to invade doesn’t have a simple thing as radar to detect incoming ships in Vader’s personal corner of the galaxy of all places.
4. Imperial traitor lady (I forgot her name, but like the actress and the character, despite the plot armor she has in this episode) is acting very suspiciously in plain sight, and the only guy noticing it gets killed in the same room a few feet away from other officers with nobody noticing.
5. Reva, remains extremely one note and uninteresting as a character, despite the show’s weird fetish with her. The fifth brother is even worse.
6. Reva kills the guy from The Path in the previous episode, but thinks a little kid, who was thrust into this situation by Reva herself, can provide brilliant insight into the workings of The Path and the Jedi.
7. Leia apparently was already on the radar of the Empire at 10 years old as a Jedi sympathiser, and should have been identified as being strong with the Force after resisting Reva’s mind probe (whos job it is to kill Jedi and kids with Force potential), but still manages to become a Senator and a covert leader of the Rebellion.
8. Reva calls old Ben Obi-Wan to Leia’s face, so there can be no doubt she has a strong personal relationship with Obi-Wan Kenobi, despite ANH clearly suggesting she only knows General Kenobi as a former associate of her adopted father.
9. Imperial traitor lady conveniently escapes from Reva by literally slapping a Stormtrooper unconscious, a new low for Stormtrooper competence.
10. The good guys escape while the base is on high alert with Leia hidden under a coat walking past hundreds of troops and officers without getting noticed. Are you kidding me?
11. One of the most important imperial bases can be almost destroyed by cracking one window with a single blaster shot.
12. I hoped Vader let Obi-Wan escape on purpose in the last episode, but I guess not, since he was clearly very pissed when Reva let Obi-Wan get away in this episode. This ruins the ending of the last episode, because vader could have easily grabbed Obi-Wan with the Force, or put out the fire as he did moments before. So, now Vader is incompetent as well.

Overall a very disappointing episode (4/10).

Right on every point

MalaStrana#2 said:

rocknroll41 said:

Kinda surprised it’s been getting mixed reception.

Probably because if a few of us wanted to see OWK rescuing Leia from an Imperial base we would just rather rewatch ANH than a watered down version undermining it.

An immense galaxy of storytelling shrunk to something with Skywalkers and their repetitive adventures…

I mean it’s okay to have it be around the Skywalkers because the main characters are supposed to be Obi Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker. What doesn’t make sense is including Leia as a main character for every episode and repeating plot concepts 1:1 from the original movie.

Repost from the other thread:

I liked this episode up until the ending, kind of similar to the last episode in that way. It had some good action and sneaking around for a little while. You guys have already said everything: tired of Leia getting rescued, don’t care about new characters (WADE!!) that we’ve never met, the bad guys are unnecessarily dumb, and I reeaaally hate the implication that Vader couldn’t come up with the idea of putting a tracking device on a ship on his own, he had to be taught it from this annoying character. If that’s not what they’re implying then it’s still not good, because it’s just a massive lack of originality and another way they were repeating the same ideas from the original movie.

Yet again all the major problems are a result of Leia and Reva being in the show. All the continuity breaks, all the screentime being wasted, the repetitive dialogue. When it’s all over I really would like to see an analysis of how much time Obi Wan is actually on screen in his own show.

The inquisitors in general are a mistake but that’s a different story.

I liked this episode up until the ending, kind of similar to the last episode in that way. It had some good action and sneaking around for a little while. You guys have already said everything: tired of Leia getting rescued, don’t care about new characters (WADE!!) that we’ve never met, the bad guys are unnecessarily dumb, and I reeaaally hate the implication that Vader couldn’t come up with the idea of putting a tracking device on a ship on his own, he had to be taught it from this annoying character. If that’s not what they’re implying then it’s still not good, because it’s just a massive lack of originality and another way they were repeating the same ideas from the original movie.

Yet again all the major problems are a result of Leia and Reva being in the show. All the continuity breaks, all the screentime being wasted, the repetitive dialogue. When it’s all over I really would like to see an analysis of how much time Obi Wan is actually on screen in his own show.

The inquisitors in general are a mistake but that’s a different story.

adywan said:

jedi_bendu said:

adywan said:

But the biggest problem is the ever increasing bond between Obi & Leia. The more they progress with this, the more she is a heartless bitch in ANH. That guy risked everything for her and she had this close bond. But she doesn’t even react when he is trapped and about to die in ANH? Yet the boy who has known him for 5 minutes reacts the opposite way? Wow. that calls her character into question. This should never have been Leia in this story. There is no peril because we know who survives.

This feels like a nitpick of what I think is the best part of the series. The relationship between Obi-wan and Leia is the beating heart of this story and I always love their scenes together. We don’t even really focus on Leia’s reaction to his duelling Vader in ANH, and though I’ll give you that Luke seems more sad about it than she does afterwards, I don’t think it’s anywhere near a good enough reason to justify not doing this story.

Hell, maybe Leia doesn’t remember much from when she was 9. I know I don’t.

No, it’s not a nitpick at all. This whole relationship that’s being portrayed in this series messes with the OT. Especially with Leia ending up being “The Other”. As it stood prior to this series, Ben was watching over Luke. He thought that Luke was the one that was their “only hope” and so did Yoda. But now, all of a sudden, we learn that he had this huge bond with leia. He got to know her and saw just how strong she is. While Luke is just out there playing pod racer. So why didn’t he see that she was the stronger one? That it was Leia that should have been trained ? Or at least trained as well? Obi-Wan is kind of a misogynistic dick now then isn’t he? Only a boy is good enough for them. 😉

Like i said before, this should have been Luke that Ben was out to rescue. He could have been captured by Slave traders or such and then, on the quest to find rescue Luke, Obi-Wan falls on the Empires radar. Then that bond could have been still present in the same way and it would have lead nicely into ANH. Because it’s obvious that Luke knows Ben. He recognises him straight away. “boy am i glad to see you”. Obi-Wan has rescued him again. And the emotional weight of Luke seeing Ben killed is enhanced ( even though it didn’t need to be).

Obi-Wan could have offered to find Luke and Owen reluctantly agrees after some persuasion from Beru. But once Luek is back with his family Owen is angry at Obi-Wan because of how close Vader came to learning he had offspring and painting a target on Luke’s back. He blames Obi-Wan for the Empire getting involved in this rescue. And he banishes Obi-Wan from ever having anything to do with Luke.

I agree about Leia but it couldn’t be Luke either, that would be even worse. Luke clearly doesn’t know much about Obi Wan other than he’s a crazy old hermit that he might have seen occasionally. He has no idea what the Jedi are or what the Force is.

yotsuya said:

I am still baffled that anyone thinks this show is poorly done. It is a hit with fans in general and the only reason it will never be as popular as The Mandalorian is that it doesn’t have Baby Yoda (possibly the single most popular character in all of Star Wars). But the production quality of all of them are top notch. I can’t see any issue with the set, costumes, acting, anything.

I think fans in general are half and half, some really like it, some hate it, and a lot of people like myself and I think most of this site are split within ourselves. It has some good aspects and bad aspects. Definitely much better than Book of Boba Fett but how much better (or whether they can keep it up) remains to be seen.

haraldo23 said:

henzINNIT said:

Obi-Wan knowing Anakin took the name Vader doesn’t mean he knew that Vader survived past their fight in episode 3 though, right? The fair assumption would be that the guy you left chopped up and on fire did in fact die from those injuries. Isn’t that the surprising information, and not that Anakin changed his name? I haven’t seen it, but that’s the impression I got.

If you had been set to write an Obi show and had gone back and refreshed yourself on the canon - scenes and dialogue made in both PT and OT - would you have written Obi as unaware?

jedi_bendu said:

Exactly. This claim is just a bad attempt to slander the creatives behind this show. In episode 2 Obi-wan hears the name “Lord Vader” and visibly reacts to it. What he didn’t know was that Vader was still alive.

Of course, as always - the fans are to blame. Instead of pointing out a blatant result of incompetency, we should all rally around the writers and help them out with our fan theory gymnastics. Force forbid Disney actually do their own job well to begin with.

In this case it does make sense. Obi Wan was specifically leaving him for dead, and Yoda tells him that he’s Darth Vader, so he knows him by that name. If I remember right, they made a big deal out of the moment he finds out he’s alive in the expanded universe as well, I think in Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader (I haven’t read it.) It makes sense to make it a big dramatic part and for what it’s worth I think it’s one of the things they did well in the show, largely because of Ewan McGregor selling it.

The main issue is whether people in general would be aware that Vader exists or not and whether that knowledge would have reached Obi Wan and friends after 10 years. Apparently not, which would imply he doesn’t go out that often or he just doesn’t leave anyone around to tell stories.

Channel72 said:

This show is… okay, I guess. It has moments of greatness (Vader scene, obviously), but it’s just weirdly bland in so many ways. The production is weirdly amateurish compared to Mandalorian: my theory is Disney got lazy with Obi-Wan because they figure they don’t need to try so hard when the plot is literally just what millions of 10-year old Star Wars fans have been acting out on playgrounds since 1977.

But the writing and plot so far is also kind of just… bland. Like, there’s nothing that really departs from the obvious basic plot synopsis required: Obi Wan is on Tatooine looking after Luke, some stuff happens, he’s nearly caught by the Empire, runs into Vader, survives, etc.

There’s no creative spark. How about something more than the most obvious plot-line required of a post-Clone Wars Obi Wan show? The only place I’ve seen real creativity from Star Wars lately is with Visions. I feel like your average random Star Wars fan could vomit out a more creative plot in a YouTube comments section. Here’s an idea from me, a random guy on the Internet: Obi Wan is laying low on Tatooine, but then something like the plot of Seven Samurai (a Lucas inspiration) happens. Some local warlords/bandits attack a moisture farming community. One of the farmers tries to recruit some “Ronin”, and asks Obi Wan for help. At first he refuses but comes around after realizing the Galaxy needs the Jedi again, blah blah, etc, you get the gist. That could be the whole show - you don’t even need Vader (and a Vader-less show is probably better for the overall consistency of the saga).

If you absolutely HAVE to have Vader because Disney execs insist, then maybe Obi Wan’s involvement in the Seven Samurai escapade alerts some local Imperials. Obi-Wan realizes his cover is in danger and has to temporarily flee Tatooine. But if Vader is involved, he should be way more mysterious. Plant some seeds early on by mentioning rumors of a mysterious “Jedi killer” working for the Emperor - nobody is sure what “it” is: a new Sith apprentice? Some kind of droid/Cyborg? Nobody really knows. When Obi-Wan finally encounters Vader, we can get a big emotional pay-off when he realizes it’s Anakin. (They did this better in Rebels with Ahsoka; in the actual Obi-Wan series Obi Wan is basically just told that Anakin is still alive by another character.)

I’m with you but Seven Samurai is also pretty unoriginal for this kind of thing, it’s been done in every Filoni show so far. Sometimes the western and samurai movie references are so blatant that they’re obnoxious. It came full circle in Visions when one of the episodes was a retelling of Hidden Fortress, when that’s literally already what the original Star Wars was.

I think this would be good, but with Vader finding the rebel base on Hoth I think that was because he sensed Luke was there.

The fractured galaxy thing with imperial terrorists destabilizing it is kind of like the setup in the Hand of Thrawn books, with the New Republic about to turn into civil war because of all the species/ethnic conflicts going on, and the weakened, beaten imperial remnant turning it to their advantage. I feel like the Zahn books are a lot classier in that regard and didn’t portray the imperials as psycho fanatics but as methodical planners like they’ve always been.

haraldo23 said:

regularjoe said:

Saying that Star Wars is too centered on Tatooine is like asking why books about World War 1 and World War 2 keep talking about Germany.

Is it? It plays a big role in ANH and TPM, but it’s very arguable whether the movies were actually centered around Tatooine - at least TPM - cause Naboo and the space/Death Star settings mogged Tatooine in both of them. None of the other movies were centered around it. In fact, the best prequel (ROTS) and the best original (ESB) had the least to do with it, so maybe it’s time to take a hint.

ESB is not the best original! They’re all tied.