Vaderisnothayden

TV's Frink said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

TV's Frink said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

Is negative1 another of your socks? ;)

Another?  Good sir, I'm sure I have no idea what you are talking about ;-)

 I mean apart from C3PX.

Ha!  That was pretty funny.  Your move, C3PX...

I can't wait until Darth Solo sees what has become of his thread.

C3PX has already edited his post to include an admission that he's one of your socks, just around the same time I posted. He must have predicted what I was posting and decided to confirm it. Ok, so who isn't one of your socks?

TV's Frink said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

Is negative1 another of your socks? ;)

Another?  Good sir, I'm sure I have no idea what you are talking about ;-)

 I mean apart from C3PX.

TV's Frink said:

Wait, did you just call me negative1? I demand

an immediate apology because I feel

that you have besmirched my good

name with your categorization of me

when you don't even know me.

 

Immediate apology, I say.

 

Later
-1

;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

 

 Is negative1 another of your socks? ;)

Monroville said:

 

And V is no H:
how can anyone take you seriously when you post things like "WATERWORLD is better than MAD MAX because it doesn't have Mel Gibson in it"?  Do I even need to get into that one?

Oh because I don't share your opinions I can't be taken seriously? That's pretty dumb. Are you a big Mel Gibson fan? If somebody's concerned about anti-Semitism they shouldn't watch Mel Gibson movies (considering what he said about Jews). There's also the issue of the portrayal of gays in Braveheart. Anti-semitism and homophobia are dangerous prejudices which everybody should be concerned about. I wouldn't watch a Mel Gibson film if you paid me. (That doesn't mean I didn't see Mel Gibson movies before he made his remarks about Jews. And I saw Mad Max. It wasn't impressive. Waterworld is a better film even apart from the Mel Gibson question.)

Godfather is overrated. As is Brando's performance in it.

2d movies. dvds.

Not gone yet but they will be in a few years. 

Well, in the old days (before Timothy Zahn's books) they didn't bother trying to keep the eu consistent. It wasn't meant to be one big consistent universe. It was just a whole lot of separate stories. Then they did the Thrawn trilogy and started taking the eu seriously, leading to our present situation. The eu doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

I'm sorry but that's just nonsense. It's misogynistic to get a laugh out of jokes about murdering women and tying them up in your basement and remarks about "complaining like a woman". You can rationalize it back and forth and find all sorts of clever rationales and ways of looking at it to reinterpret it and excuse it, but when you're done the essential truth remains. And I hate when people try to excuse unacceptable humor by trying to explain that it has such and such mentality that isn't offensive and is meant to be looked at such and such way. Last year a comedian made a joke that not enough Jews were killed in the Holocaust and all sorts of excuses were made to defend his joke and make it out to be ok, but really it was just an anti-semitic joke. 

xhonzi said:

TheBoost said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

Yes, there's a series of trade paperbacks called Classic Star Wars: Along Time Ago. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Classic_Star_Wars:_A_Long_Time_Ago...

 And they rule!!!

 Ouch!  That first volume is really expensive!  Everything else seems to be available at reasonable prices.

 

Well the new omnibus volume that's out in June should have everything that's in that volume at a lower price (except maybe the covers).

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Omnibus:_A_Long_Time_Ago..._Volume_1

I don't like the way the omnibuses are shrunk down and don't have all the covers. 

xhonzi said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

xhonzi said:

Original post *snip*

Tales of the Jedi had a good overall storyline but the execution wasn't that good. Rogue Squadron is crap. Bland as hell. Legacy is good but not very Star Wars. Dark Times has some good and some bad. Knights of the Old Republic is good. I don't see what's so bad about any of its sidekick characters. Rebellion/Empire is kind of bland and can have a revisionist take on the OT period. There are various other Star Wars comics, but I can't list them all. Go to wookieepedia and look up "list of comics" if you want to find out what Star Wars comics there have been.

Anyway, Dark Horse Star Wars comics is just the come-lately stuff. The comics of the OT era, the true Star Wars eu, are the Marvel comics.

 Lolz.  Isn't this the same response you gave me back in November?  Waaaaaay back in post #6.

Well, at least you are consistent.  :)

 Oh. Right.

TV's Frink said:

Megan Fox is C3PX's mother?  Holy smokes!

 That explains a lot. ;)

Yeah. :D

TheBoost said:

Bingowings said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

Bingowings said:

The humour is only misogynist if he is being serious, which clearly he isn't.

Certain types of things are misogynistic even when they're meant as humor. The humor here is clearly misogynistic. Clearly he is not being serious about keeping women tied up in his basement, but putting it forward as a joke is misogynistic. And humor is often used as cover for bigotry, such as in various comedians' routines -fake bigotry that really is real bigotry.

What utter twaddle.

So The Great Dictator is a pro-fascist film?

 Come on Bingo.

Are you really comparing the satire of Charlie FREAKING Chaplin, one of the greatest comedians of all time, to this Star Wars dude's non-sequitor 'jokes' about torturing women in his basement?

TheBoost said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

It's disturbing to see people being ok with the misogyny in the review. 

 I for one don't find violence/murder agaist women jokes to be funny. I also tend not to laugh at jokes about lynchings or child abuse... but that may just be me.

::nods:: Admiral Piett, or TheBoost as he calls himself here, gets what I'm talking about. As does Frink, judging from a post above.

Darth Solo said:

Yeah, im ignoring that one, even though i expected that reply, and u didnt pick up on Fink as opposed to Frink.

Waterworld could be pretty good if u think about it, if you ignore its budget. Its like Mad Max but nothing like Mad Max. 

Aint ever heard of Easy Virture. The treads doin its jobby again. Cheers boost man, but are you saying all movies are bad?

I got 2 snaggs now ;-)

 Waterworld is better than Mad Max because there's no Mel Gibson in it.

TV's Frink said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

Portman I find attractive, when she's not acting in Star wars prequels.

I think Ric's just jealous that he lost out on her.

She's also not attractive in The Other Boleyn Girl, in which she didn't come off right. But she's very attractive in Garden State.

dark_jedi said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

Portman I find attractive, when she's not acting in Star wars prequels. Hayden Panty-air I don't find attractive, but I think she does a good job on Heroes.

MOST definitely,I find she does an excellent job on that show to,and the hottie's on that show are Ali Larter and Kristen Bell.

 Don't forget Missy Peregrym in season 1 playing Candice.

Portman I find attractive, when she's not acting in Star wars prequels. Hayden Panty-air I don't find attractive, but I think she does a good job on Heroes.

TV's Frink said:

Vaderisnothayden said:

I agree with the view that Waterworld is underrated.

VINH, we're agreeing way too much the past few days ;-)

Hey, it's not my fault. ;)

xhonzi said:

Back to the Marvel comics... are these collected somewhere?  My googling says "no."  And my magic 8 ball says "Ask again later."

Yes, there's a series of trade paperbacks called Classic Star Wars: Along Time Ago. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Classic_Star_Wars:_A_Long_Time_Ago...

xhonzi said:

I read all of Dark Horse's Tales of the Jedi series when it ran from 1994 to 1998.  I really dug the series at first, but felt that it diminished over time (a factor of the amount of KJA involvement, I'm sure).  Still, these are probably my favorite SW comics.

I also really liked (85-90%) of the first Dark Empire series, found Dark Empire II to have some great ideas and some terrible ones, and thought Empire's End was just plain terrible.

Then I didn't read any Star Wars comics until Legacy started coming out.  I first came into contact with Legacy in an animated web-ad for Star Wars miniatures.  Is anyone else reading these?  There's 40 or so issues out, and it's been very good so far, IMO.  The only problem I have is that there were 30 issues when I started reading them a year ago and I saw the series as starting out really strongly and having lots of potential.  (I was at issue six or seven, so there were 23 issues just sitting there waiting for me to read them.)  Now that I'm all but caught up, I still feel like the series has a lot of potential, but that it's not necessarily any closer to actually delivering on it.  Perhaps that has to do with the serialized nature of a monthly comic vs a 6 issue limited run or a movie or something.  Still, it has been a breath of fresh-air for this SW fan who had learned to stop reading the books and was trying to "unlearn what I had learned 1999-2005."

I recently picked up Rogue Squadron Omnibuses 1 and 2.  I've heard those are good.

I don't like Dark Times, which I've read I think a little more than half of.  I had to read a pair of issues from Rebellion while reading Legacy (the Vector crossover).  It seemed alright.  Vector started with 4 issues in Knights of the Old Republic, which I couldn't stand.  I had heard that this series was good, so I was surprised that I didn't like it more than I did.  The sidekick character gives Jar Jar a run for his "Worst Star Wars character with no redeeming qualities" award.

I never read the PT comics.  I think I sat down at Barnes and Noble with one once, but found it to have the PT taint all over it.

Am I missing anything?

Tales of the Jedi had a good overall storyline but the execution wasn't that good. Rogue Squadron is crap. Bland as hell. Legacy is good but not very Star Wars. Dark Times has some good and some bad. Knights of the Old Republic is good. I don't see what's so bad about any of its sidekick characters. Rebellion/Empire is kind of bland and can have a revisionist take on the OT period. There are various other Star Wars comics, but I can't list them all. Go to wookieepedia and look up "list of comics" if you want to find out what Star Wars comics there have been.

Anyway, Dark Horse Star Wars comics is just the come-lately stuff. The comics of the OT era, the true Star Wars eu, are the Marvel comics.

Why do I need numbers? It's easy to see what I'm saying despite the lack of numbers. Numbers makes it look like it's a fucking exam. I don't like exams.

Also, where I come from "jobbie" means a crap. I hope this thread isn't doing one, at least not on me.

Btw, nice avie. I always thought the royal guards (shouldn't they be "imperial guards") looked cool, but I wondered how they turned their heads.

It seems you're right. Good. But they shouldn't have cut the old geezer. It's the same old George Lucas, changing and cutting things. Wtf is so bad about giving people what they saw on the screen? Even the Clone Wars dvds are "directors cuts" of the episodes.

I mark the Young Indy show as the start of the prequel spirit. Create a prequel in which you recast a crucial character with a young actor who gives a weak performance and totally doesn't fit the character, and introduce startling stupidity. Same thing as the prequels.

I can't for the life of me understand people who are ok with SPF as Indy but have a problem with Shia Labeouf. Shia doesn't have qualify as Indy himself and he's still a lot closer to what Ford does than SPF is.

Oh and Lucas thinks Young Indy is good for teaching history to high school students? lol I would think the whole thing would be too infantile for high school students to sit through it.

I watched Hollywood Homicide, because I'm rewatching Harrison Ford movies. It was better than I remembered it. Ford was low key but good. The film isn't much of anything but it's good-natured and Ford makes it work if you pay attention to his acting. I'd give it a 5 maybe. Next film up is Thief with James Caan. 

I agree with the view that Waterworld is underrated. But I think Citizen Kane is overrated, though Orson Welles did a good acting job in it. I don't share the opinion that modern film is crap. Some modern film is crap and some is good. And plenty of older films are crap, including many hailed as great classics (Raging Bull comes to mind -zero humanity in that thing). I don't buy the view that there was this golden age of film that's gone and that modern film is now all useless. I'm actually kind of fed up of hearing that modern film is crap. Sure, we've got crap like Transformers 2 and Gi Joe and Avatar, but we've also got films like Hurt Locker and Bronson and Harry Brown and Gran Torino.

Inferior as Crystal Skull was, it was vastly superior to Young Indy, which was an insult to what Harrison Ford had done in the films. SFP's bland ineffectual Indy was about as much the same character as Ford's as Hayden's Anakin was Sebastian Shaw's character. And the stories were moronic. Indy hangs out with just about every historical figure in the period. Real insult to the audience's intelligence. And the it-was-meant-to-be-educational excuse doesn't save it. Why does Indiana Jones have to be "educational"? Though it suppose it is educational to thus demonstrate to kids that adults are too stupid to put together a show with any intelligence. I can't understand people acting like Indy was ruined by Crystal Skull, considering it had already been soundly ruined by Young Indy. It's like moaning that The Clone Wars show ruins Star Wars, as if the PT and the SE were perfectly ok. At least Skull had Harrison Ford, the real Indy. Ford is the main exceptional thing the Indy franchise had to offer. Without him it'd have just been a bland meaningless adventure franchise. He's the one who gave it humanity through his portrayal of Indy. He was the one that made things on the screen feel like they mattered, because he got you emotionally connected to the character in a way few actors could. Indy without Ford is useless. Indeed, you can't have Indy without Ford. Though I guess maybe you could have Mutt Williams without Ford, which would at least be better than the Young Indy travesty.

And the final insult is those dvds. They cost a fortune and I hear they even edited out Harrison Ford's guest appearance, the only worthwhile thing in the whole bleeding show. And they padded them out with a whole load of historical documentaries. Jeez, if somebody wants historical documentaries they can buy historical documentaries. If they're buying Young Indy they probably just want Young Indy. Cut the documentaries and lower the price and include the only appearance of the real Indy that the show ever had.

 

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