That sounds incredibly lucky. Hopefully he’s okay.
As an aside, it always shocks me when people mention great-grandparents. Mine were all long gone before I could remember.
This is exactly one of things I don’t like about PCs: Unnecessary maintainment.
Are you calling proper water-cooling “unnecessary maintainment”?
Yes. Why should I have to care about water-cooling? It should just work.
(that’s maintenance, by the way)
Totally forgot. Thank you.
I thought you misspelled it because you were joking.
You watercool because when you overclock you generate more heat.
It does “just work” but if you watercool stuff, it works better.
Yeah, but I shouldn’t care if I want to overclock or not. I shouldn’t care about having to make sure every little level is perfect. I shouldn’t care about those things.
You… don’t have to? In fact you shouldn’t if you don’t know anything about it and beyond that you can’t unless you have the right parts. Standard users can just buy normal parts that will work out of the box just fine.
Overclocking is for enthusiasts to min/max with because they’re nuts (like me). It’s like having a tuner car or something. It’s not necessary and most people don’t, but you can if you want to.
JEDIT: Jesus dude, nobody is forced to overclock anything. It’s just something certain people like to do. Everything works perfectly fine without overclocking or watercooling.
I’ve never found overclocking and the such worth the effort for an increase in x that I probably wouldn’t notice and might cause extra stress/problems.
That is all.
Eh, it’s pretty safe these days and you can squeeze out enough performance to make it pretty worthwhile.
Not worth the effort for me. It’s probably even more hoops for a Mac, so I’d rather not.
Now this is all.
Pretty sure you can’t OC a Mac.
You might squeeze more performance out of it than buying a new one then. *winky joke face*
This is exactly one of things I don’t like about PCs: Unnecessary maintainment.
Are you calling proper water-cooling “unnecessary maintainment”?
Yes. Why should I have to care about water-cooling? It should just work.
(that’s maintenance, by the way)
Totally forgot. Thank you.
I thought you misspelled it because you were joking.
You watercool because when you overclock you generate more heat.
It does “just work” but if you watercool stuff, it works better.
Yeah, but I shouldn’t care if I want to overclock or not. I shouldn’t care about having to make sure every little level is perfect. I shouldn’t care about those things.
You… don’t have to? In fact you shouldn’t if you don’t know anything about it and beyond that you can’t unless you have the right parts. Standard users can just buy normal parts that will work out of the box just fine.
Overclocking is for enthusiasts to min/max with because they’re nuts (like me). It’s like having a tuner car or something. It’s not necessary and most people don’t, but you can if you want to.
JEDIT: Jesus dude, nobody is forced to overclock anything. It’s just something certain people like to do. Everything works perfectly fine without overclocking or watercooling.
I’ve never found overclocking and the such worth the effort for an increase in x that I probably wouldn’t notice and might cause extra stress/problems.
That is all.
Eh, it’s pretty safe these days and you can squeeze out enough performance to make it pretty worthwhile.
This is exactly one of things I don’t like about PCs: Unnecessary maintainment.
Are you calling proper water-cooling “unnecessary maintainment”?
Yes. Why should I have to care about water-cooling? It should just work.
(that’s maintenance, by the way)
Totally forgot. Thank you.
I thought you misspelled it because you were joking.
You watercool because when you overclock you generate more heat.
It does “just work” but if you watercool stuff, it works better.
Yeah, but I shouldn’t care if I want to overclock or not. I shouldn’t care about having to make sure every little level is perfect. I shouldn’t care about those things.
You… don’t have to? In fact you shouldn’t if you don’t know anything about it and beyond that you can’t unless you have the right parts. Standard users can just buy normal parts that will work out of the box just fine.
Overclocking is for enthusiasts to min/max with because they’re nuts (like me). It’s like having a tuner car or something. It’s not necessary and most people don’t, but you can if you want to.
JEDIT: Jesus dude, nobody is forced to overclock anything. It’s just something certain people like to do. Everything works perfectly fine without overclocking or watercooling. The parts Apple uses in Macs are largely the same parts people use in their PCs.
This is exactly one of things I don’t like about PCs: Unnecessary maintainment.
Are you calling proper water-cooling “unnecessary maintainment”?
Yes. Why should I have to care about water-cooling? It should just work.
(that’s maintenance, by the way)
Totally forgot. Thank you.
I thought you misspelled it because you were joking.
You watercool because when you overclock you generate more heat.
It does “just work” but if you watercool stuff, it works better.
I’ll definitely try this tomorrow as I am getting ready for work. I greatly appreciate you for trying to help me at my most desperate hour.
@Tyr
It depends on the situation. In my experience changing stuff in the launcher, reinstalling mods and/or the entire game in general and making ini tweaks usually fixes most issues.
Yeah, I figure you know what you’re doing so I was just jabbin’ at you.
Also, human drivers kill themselves all the time. Almost 40,000 (or maybe 4,000 — not sure) people die in car accidents every year.
And there are also idiots who try water-cooling their computers by sticking a hose in a slot in the tower and letting it fill up.
Wait, how do you do it?
You only let it fill halfway so the steam created by the heated water doesn’t change the pressure in the case and release the magic blue smoke.
Dude, driver update is always the first stop on the troubleshooting tour!
BUT CAN YOU HUM IT?!
I like Star Wars posters but also like Jurassic Park posters.
Has this joke been done? Likely.
Imma just post Mack memes until this useless non-conversation dies down.
Non factual. Almost all of the most powerful applications that people use started or are only on the Mac, with some being on Windows and extremely rarely on Linux.
Not factual.
Nearly all of Adobe’s Creative Suite started on the Mac. Most of the main products of the Office suite (a Microsoft product, for that matter) started on the Mac. I can give more.
And yet they all run better on PC, weeeeird!
Prove it.
##### *NO.*****
Everything that is wrong with your argument in one single post.
Do you hear that? It’s the sound of your argument crashing to the ground.
The truth is, you have no legs to stand on, just prejudice and nonsense. And bad memes, in Neglify’s case.
No, I just don’t need to prove anything. Please tell me how any official Mac can run Photoshop, or Illustrator, or Maya, or anything better than my 4790K, 2x GTX 1080 SLI system with 32 gigs of RAM.
Okay, I will give you that. A couple of years ago I would have pointed to the Mac Pro but Apple’s neglected that over the past few years. A regretful point to you, sir.
Is it because I can name my files whatever I want? Oh, wait, I can’t do that in OSX.
The file thing is more of a general point: It signifies that Apple will usually try to yield to the user (unless the user will do something stupid) and Windows tries to work against you because of some technical reason.
Also, putting “OS” and “X” together is a big no-no.
They’ll try so hard to do so that they’ll capitulate to the norm four years or so after introducing their revolutionary perfect file naming system.
Yep.
The user experience of the Mac is much better. While you have crappy laptops made of plastic, we have metal laptops that actually look nice.
Aesthetics have little to do with UX and even less to do with functionality.
I wasn’t even talking about aesthetics (barring the laptop comment. I mean, why shouldn’t you have a laptop you like the look of?). I was partly talking about UX, and also the way Windows feels. Windows feels clunky, and as I have said before, actively working against you.
I will agree that Apple sometimes tend to go too much towards the aesthetic side of things, but that tends to happen more in their hardware than their software. And, Apple is much better than Microsoft in this regard.
I dunno what version of Windows you last used (maybe ME?), but maybe its your unfamiliarity with the OS that makes it feel that way because if anything it’s getting more hand-holdy and annoyingly automatic like OSX is.
I last used Windows 10, for about six months. I hated every moment of it.
And I never understood the complaint that OS X is “hand-holdy.” If anything, Microsoft is more like that with their Tips app. And why wouldn’t you want things to be automatic? I mean, I love writing shell scripts as much as the next person, but I like automation.
Also, if anything, I enjoy having file type extensions that I can edit easily to make .bats, or backups, or configs, or scripts, or whatever else I may need.
Macs have been doing that for years, even before the integration of Unix into the OS.
I have no idea what the Tips app is, and I’ve been using Windows 10 since launch.
I just remember in some version of Windows Microsoft tried to walk you through the non-intuitive Metro UI. Which should not have been necessary, since Microsoft should have been able to make the UI usable enough to not need those instructions.
I don’t want things to be automatic because I like to control things myself. I’d much rather opt in than opt out.
I feel that Macs have pretty much the same automation level as Windows. I mean, I never got why people like the feeling of a manual machine that you have to control yourself. Just seems pointless and a waste of time.
I dunno how everything being about three or four clicks away from the desktop isn’t intuitive. I’m annoyed with the splitting of Control Panel into the Control Panel and the mostly-redundant-yet-less-functional Settings app thing, but that’s really the most unintuitive things I’ve ever noticed in Windows. Even after several years of using a Mac I was still Internet searching ways to do simple things and wondering why the hell they had to make them so weird to do.
I’ve never encountered a situation. Tell me some and I’ll tackle them one-by-one.
And I don’t mean I want to write a program myself every time I want to do something (or I’d use Linux amirite?), but I prefer having the ability to have more granular control over things more easily.
Same as above.
I haven’t used a Mac in almost a year now and can’t remember any of the specifics, I just remember it happening.
Imma just post Mack memes until this useless non-conversation dies down.
Non factual. Almost all of the most powerful applications that people use started or are only on the Mac, with some being on Windows and extremely rarely on Linux.
Not factual.
Nearly all of Adobe’s Creative Suite started on the Mac. Most of the main products of the Office suite (a Microsoft product, for that matter) started on the Mac. I can give more.
And yet they all run better on PC, weeeeird!
Prove it.
##### *NO.*****
Everything that is wrong with your argument in one single post.
Do you hear that? It’s the sound of your argument crashing to the ground.
The truth is, you have no legs to stand on, just prejudice and nonsense. And bad memes, in Neglify’s case.
No, I just don’t need to prove anything. Please tell me how any official Mac can run Photoshop, or Illustrator, or Maya, or anything better than my 4790K, 2x GTX 1080 SLI system with 32 gigs of RAM.
Okay, I will give you that. A couple of years ago I would have pointed to the Mac Pro but Apple’s neglected that over the past few years. A regretful point to you, sir.
Is it because I can name my files whatever I want? Oh, wait, I can’t do that in OSX.
The file thing is more of a general point: It signifies that Apple will usually try to yield to the user (unless the user will do something stupid) and Windows tries to work against you because of some technical reason.
Also, putting “OS” and “X” together is a big no-no.
How is having file extensions “working against the user”? How does having a jpeg at the end affect my experience at all?
You can’t name the file whatever you want.
How? I can name my files whatever I want. The file extension isn’t the file name. I type in the file name, and the file name extension comes after that by default (it’s just labeling the file type in an easily viewed manner). It’s not oppressing me in any way, because I can still name my file whatever I want. And if I don’t want to see the file type at the end of the file name, I can turn it off.
Even though you can turn it off, it’s still there. That’s not a solution. When you call something like that a solution, something is wrong with your system.
You didn’t bother responding to anything in that paragraph, but you did manage to shove in the idea that turning them off isn’t a solution, even though that was just a side point in addition to the actual point of that paragraph.
Also, file name extensions look ugly.
So what? And not everyone thinks they are, so I wouldn’t go resorting to that kind of half assed argument when you’re trying to explain why you’re right about something.
I don’t want ugly things on my computer. Simple as that.
“You didn’t bother responding to anything in that paragraph, but you did manage to shove in the idea that turning them off isn’t a solution, even though that was just a side point in addition to the actual point of that paragraph.”
Also, as you and others refuse to accept, you should not ever have file metadata in the file name.
The file type is actually kind of important for the user to know sometimes. There is nothing wrong with the file type being displayed along with the file name.
Yes, there is, for all the reasons I have explained.
You haven’t given any reasons beyond “user’s space.” What the crap does that even mean?
The user’s space is something that only the user should be able to modify and that any technical limitations shouldn’t come into. It’s just offensive for that baggage to be there. This is a fundamental truth. Simple as that.
How is a file type being labeled as a name extension a technical limitation? I can even change the file extension if I want to (this won’t always yield promising results, though).
(this won’t always yield promising results, though)
That’s the problem.
…
It’s a technical limitation that Microsoft imposed on themselves when creating the Windows OS. They just decided that file name extensions were “good enough,” which they are totally not.
Also, a mother limitation of file name extension is the three letter extension convention. Yes, you can make a file name extension longer than three letters, but almost nobody does that. So, you can have many conflicting file name extensions. It is not unreasonable to think that a user would have two or more different apps on a computer that use the same file name extension for data storage.
If you know what you’re doing with file type extensions, they’re great and easy. I’ve personally never once had conflicting extensions in my decade plus of Windows use.
Imma just post Mack memes until this useless non-conversation dies down.
Non factual. Almost all of the most powerful applications that people use started or are only on the Mac, with some being on Windows and extremely rarely on Linux.
Not factual.
Nearly all of Adobe’s Creative Suite started on the Mac. Most of the main products of the Office suite (a Microsoft product, for that matter) started on the Mac. I can give more.
And yet they all run better on PC, weeeeird!
Prove it.
##### *NO.*****
Everything that is wrong with your argument in one single post.
Do you hear that? It’s the sound of your argument crashing to the ground.
The truth is, you have no legs to stand on, just prejudice and nonsense. And bad memes, in Neglify’s case.
No, I just don’t need to prove anything. Please tell me how any official Mac can run Photoshop, or Illustrator, or Maya, or anything better than my 4790K, 2x GTX 1080 SLI system with 32 gigs of RAM.
Okay, I will give you that. A couple of years ago I would have pointed to the Mac Pro but Apple’s neglected that over the past few years. A regretful point to you, sir.
Is it because I can name my files whatever I want? Oh, wait, I can’t do that in OSX.
The file thing is more of a general point: It signifies that Apple will usually try to yield to the user (unless the user will do something stupid) and Windows tries to work against you because of some technical reason.
Also, putting “OS” and “X” together is a big no-no.
They’ll try so hard to do so that they’ll capitulate to the norm four years or so after introducing their revolutionary perfect file naming system.
Yep.
The user experience of the Mac is much better. While you have crappy laptops made of plastic, we have metal laptops that actually look nice.
Aesthetics have little to do with UX and even less to do with functionality.
I wasn’t even talking about aesthetics (barring the laptop comment. I mean, why shouldn’t you have a laptop you like the look of?). I was partly talking about UX, and also the way Windows feels. Windows feels clunky, and as I have said before, actively working against you.
I will agree that Apple sometimes tend to go too much towards the aesthetic side of things, but that tends to happen more in their hardware than their software. And, Apple is much better than Microsoft in this regard.
I dunno what version of Windows you last used (maybe ME?), but maybe its your unfamiliarity with the OS that makes it feel that way because if anything it’s getting more hand-holdy and annoyingly automatic like OSX is.
I last used Windows 10, for about six months. I hated every moment of it.
And I never understood the complaint that OS X is “hand-holdy.” If anything, Microsoft is more like that with their Tips app. And why wouldn’t you want things to be automatic? I mean, I love writing shell scripts as much as the next person, but I like automation.
Also, if anything, I enjoy having file type extensions that I can edit easily to make .bats, or backups, or configs, or scripts, or whatever else I may need.
Macs have been doing that for years, even before the integration of Unix into the OS.
I have no idea what the Tips app is, and I’ve been using Windows 10 since launch.
I just remember in some version of Windows Microsoft tried to walk you through the non-intuitive Metro UI. Which should not have been necessary, since Microsoft should have been able to make the UI usable enough to not need those instructions.
I don’t want things to be automatic because I like to control things myself. I’d much rather opt in than opt out.
I feel that Macs have pretty much the same automation level as Windows. I mean, I never got why people like the feeling of a manual machine that you have to control yourself. Just seems pointless and a waste of time.
I dunno how everything being about three or four clicks away from the desktop isn’t intuitive. I’m annoyed with the splitting of Control Panel into the Control Panel and the mostly-redundant-yet-less-functional Settings app thing, but that’s really the most unintuitive things I’ve ever noticed in Windows. Even after several years of using a Mac I was still Internet searching ways to do simple things and wondering why the hell they had to make them so weird to do.
And I don’t mean I want to write a program myself every time I want to do something (or I’d use Linux amirite?), but I prefer having the ability to have more granular control over things more easily.
It’ll be 5k today as he scrambles around the internet trying to prove Macs are better long after everyone has stopped caring.
I did say…
Imma just post Mack memes until this useless non-conversation dies down.
Non factual. Almost all of the most powerful applications that people use started or are only on the Mac, with some being on Windows and extremely rarely on Linux.
Not factual.
Nearly all of Adobe’s Creative Suite started on the Mac. Most of the main products of the Office suite (a Microsoft product, for that matter) started on the Mac. I can give more.
And yet they all run better on PC, weeeeird!
Prove it.
##### *NO.*****
Everything that is wrong with your argument in one single post.
Do you hear that? It’s the sound of your argument crashing to the ground.
The truth is, you have no legs to stand on, just prejudice and nonsense. And bad memes, in Neglify’s case.
No, I just don’t need to prove anything. Please tell me how any official Mac can run Photoshop, or Illustrator, or Maya, or anything better than my 4790K, 2x GTX 1080 SLI system with 32 gigs of RAM.
Okay, I will give you that. A couple of years ago I would have pointed to the Mac Pro but Apple’s neglected that over the past few years. A regretful point to you, sir.
Is it because I can name my files whatever I want? Oh, wait, I can’t do that in OSX.
The file thing is more of a general point: It signifies that Apple will usually try to yield to the user (unless the user will do something stupid) and Windows tries to work against you because of some technical reason.
Also, putting “OS” and “X” together is a big no-no.
They’ll try so hard to do so that they’ll capitulate to the norm four years or so after introducing their revolutionary perfect file naming system.
Yep.
The user experience of the Mac is much better. While you have crappy laptops made of plastic, we have metal laptops that actually look nice.
Aesthetics have little to do with UX and even less to do with functionality.
I wasn’t even talking about aesthetics (barring the laptop comment. I mean, why shouldn’t you have a laptop you like the look of?). I was partly talking about UX, and also the way Windows feels. Windows feels clunky, and as I have said before, actively working against you.
I will agree that Apple sometimes tend to go too much towards the aesthetic side of things, but that tends to happen more in their hardware than their software. And, Apple is much better than Microsoft in this regard.
I dunno what version of Windows you last used (maybe ME?), but maybe its your unfamiliarity with the OS that makes it feel that way because if anything it’s getting more hand-holdy and annoyingly automatic like OSX is.
I last used Windows 10, for about six months. I hated every moment of it.
And I never understood the complaint that OS X is “hand-holdy.” If anything, Microsoft is more like that with their Tips app. And why wouldn’t you want things to be automatic? I mean, I love writing shell scripts as much as the next person, but I like automation.
Also, if anything, I enjoy having file type extensions that I can edit easily to make .bats, or backups, or configs, or scripts, or whatever else I may need.
Macs have been doing that for years, even before the integration of Unix into the OS.
I have no idea what the Tips app is, and I’ve been using Windows 10 since launch.
I don’t want things to be automatic because I like to control things myself. I’d much rather opt in than opt out.
I tried that and also “Squirrel Faced Actress” but couldn’t find anything.
Did you try SFA?
Oh that was it, thanks Frink.
Imma just post Mack memes until this useless non-conversation dies down.
Non factual. Almost all of the most powerful applications that people use started or are only on the Mac, with some being on Windows and extremely rarely on Linux.
Not factual.
Nearly all of Adobe’s Creative Suite started on the Mac. Most of the main products of the Office suite (a Microsoft product, for that matter) started on the Mac. I can give more.
And yet they all run better on PC, weeeeird!
Prove it.
##### *NO.*****
Everything that is wrong with your argument in one single post.
Do you hear that? It’s the sound of your argument crashing to the ground.
The truth is, you have no legs to stand on, just prejudice and nonsense. And bad memes, in Neglify’s case.
No, I just don’t need to prove anything. Please tell me how any official Mac can run Photoshop, or Illustrator, or Maya, or anything better than my 4790K, 2x GTX 1080 SLI system with 32 gigs of RAM.
Okay, I will give you that. A couple of years ago I would have pointed to the Mac Pro but Apple’s neglected that over the past few years. A regretful point to you, sir.
Is it because I can name my files whatever I want? Oh, wait, I can’t do that in OSX.
The file thing is more of a general point: It signifies that Apple will usually try to yield to the user (unless the user will do something stupid) and Windows tries to work against you because of some technical reason.
Also, putting “OS” and “X” together is a big no-no.
They’ll try so hard to do so that they’ll capitulate to the norm four years or so after introducing their revolutionary perfect file naming system.
Yep.
The user experience of the Mac is much better. While you have crappy laptops made of plastic, we have metal laptops that actually look nice.
Aesthetics have little to do with UX and even less to do with functionality.
I wasn’t even talking about aesthetics (barring the laptop comment. I mean, why shouldn’t you have a laptop you like the look of?). I was partly talking about UX, and also the way Windows feels. Windows feels clunky, and as I have said before, actively working against you.
I will agree that Apple sometimes tend to go too much towards the aesthetic side of things, but that tends to happen more in their hardware than their software. And, Apple is much better than Microsoft in this regard.
I dunno what version of Windows you last used (maybe ME?), but maybe its your unfamiliarity with the OS that makes it feel that way because if anything it’s getting more hand-holdy and annoyingly automatic like OSX is.
Also, if anything, I enjoy having file type extensions that I can edit easily to make .bats, or backups, or configs, or scripts, or whatever else I may need.
Imma just post Mack memes until this useless non-conversation dies down.
Non factual. Almost all of the most powerful applications that people use started or are only on the Mac, with some being on Windows and extremely rarely on Linux.
Not factual.
Nearly all of Adobe’s Creative Suite started on the Mac. Most of the main products of the Office suite (a Microsoft product, for that matter) started on the Mac. I can give more.
And yet they all run better on PC, weeeeird!
Prove it.
##### *NO.*****
Everything that is wrong with your argument in one single post.
Do you hear that? It’s the sound of your argument crashing to the ground.
The truth is, you have no legs to stand on, just prejudice and nonsense. And bad memes, in Neglify’s case.
No, I just don’t need to prove anything. Please tell me how any official Mac can run Photoshop, or Illustrator, or Maya, or anything better than my 4790K, 2x GTX 1080 SLI system with 32 gigs of RAM.
Okay, I will give you that. A couple of years ago I would have pointed to the Mac Pro but Apple’s neglected that over the past few years. A regretful point to you, sir.
Is it because I can name my files whatever I want? Oh, wait, I can’t do that in OSX.
The file thing is more of a general point: It signifies that Apple will usually try to yield to the user (unless the user will do something stupid) and Windows tries to work against you because of some technical reason.
Also, putting “OS” and “X” together is a big no-no.
They’ll try so hard to do so that they’ll capitulate to the norm four years or so after introducing their revolutionary perfect file naming system.
Why are you so worried about how things are abbreviated? Jesus Christ if I wasted half the time you have correcting people on how to type MAC and OSX in this thread, I’d be questioning my life.
Yep.
The user experience of the Mac is much better. While you have crappy laptops made of plastic, we have metal laptops that actually look nice.
Aesthetics have little to do with UX and even less to do with functionality.
I tried that and also “Squirrel Faced Actress” but couldn’t find anything.
Imma just post Mack memes until this useless non-conversation dies down.
Non factual. Almost all of the most powerful applications that people use started or are only on the Mac, with some being on Windows and extremely rarely on Linux.
Not factual.
Nearly all of Adobe’s Creative Suite started on the Mac. Most of the main products of the Office suite (a Microsoft product, for that matter) started on the Mac. I can give more.
And yet they all run better on PC, weeeeird!
Prove it.
##### *NO.*****
Everything that is wrong with your argument in one single post.
Do you hear that? It’s the sound of your argument crashing to the ground.
The truth is, you have no legs to stand on, just prejudice and nonsense. And bad memes, in Neglify’s case.
No, I just don’t need to prove anything. Please tell me how any official Mac can run Photoshop, or Illustrator, or Maya, or anything better than my 4790K, 2x GTX 1080 SLI system with 32 gigs of RAM.
Is it because I can name my files whatever I want? Oh, wait, I can’t do that in OSX.
Imma just post Mack memes until this useless non-conversation dies down.
Non factual. Almost all of the most powerful applications that people use started or are only on the Mac, with some being on Windows and extremely rarely on Linux.
Not factual.
Nearly all of Adobe’s Creative Suite started on the Mac. Most of the main products of the Office suite (a Microsoft product, for that matter) started on the Mac. I can give more.
And yet they all run better on PC, weeeeird!
Prove it.
##### *NO.*****
Imma just post Mack memes until this useless non-conversation dies down.
Non factual. Almost all of the most powerful applications that people use started or are only on the Mac, with some being on Windows and extremely rarely on Linux.
Not factual.
Nearly all of Adobe’s Creative Suite started on the Mac. Most of the main products of the Office suite (a Microsoft product, for that matter) started on the Mac. I can give more.
And yet they all run better on PC, weeeeird!
But how would I make you have a aneurysm over MAC vs. Real PCs if I left?
Furthermore: I care about Star Wars (which has affected my life) and enjoy communicating with folks here about things, I really don’t care about file type extensions because it doesn’t affect my life in the slightest.
Hopefully I’ll get to discuss why file name extensions are stupid.
I think you’re confused on the meaning of “hopefully.”
It’s really interesting, I promise.
Sounds fishy.
Back in the day, Macs had a unique way to identify file types: Type/Creator codes. In the resource fork of a file, the OS would store the type of file (basically the file name extension) and the creator of the file (the application you used to create the file). This system has many advantages, including the most important one (to me, at least): You can name the file whatever you want, and it’ll still open correctly.
The impossibility of this is what makes file name extensions terrible: You can’t give the user control of their data. Coding the file type in the file name is a fundamentally bad idea. Would you put the date created in the file name? Size? Metadata? You’d probably say no. These are all file metadata that are as important as the file type. But, no, file type is a-ok because that’s how it’s always been outside of the Mac world! That’s just how things are, isn’t it?
It is, but it doesn’t have to be this way.
Apple solved the problem again eleven years ago with Uniform Type Identifiers. This system has solves many major problems with type/creator codes, file name extensions, and MIME types. It first solves specificity problems: Type/Creator codes are limited to four characters, which is small enough to have collisions with other file types. (This is also a problem with file name extensions, as file name extensions can theoretically be as long as possible, Microsoft & Co. refuse to break from the EIGHT.THREE file naming convention of yesteryear) It also doesn’t need a registration with a standards committee, which is a problem with MIME types. There’s also many more benefits and intricacies to Uniform Type Identifiers, which you’ll have to see the link I linked above to get all the juicy details on.
Now, Apple has been far from perfect in this arena. Back around the transition from Classic Mac OS to Mac OS X (Windows users: Think of the transition from Windows 9x to XP, but much bigger), Apple basically abandoned Type/Creator codes, making file name extensions the required form of file type identification. This lasts until today, which many Apple users (such as myself) are grumbly about. (Along with the lack of a new file system — but that’s on the way!)
I don’t know why you posted this, given the fact that there was no way I’d ever read it.
It’s not that full of technical jargon. The only problem is that it’s a few paragraphs long, which seems to be beyond your attention span.
My attention span only cares about things that matter.
File name extensions do matter! Don’t you want to name files whatever you want without having that pesky three character identifier at the end?
What’s wrong with file name extensions? You can still name the file whatever you want (pretty much), there’s just a period followed by the file type afterward. What’s wrong with being able to see the file type? What’s “pesky” about it?
My point is that file metadata should never, ever come into contact with the user space that is the file name, and that includes file types.
Why?
Because the file name is the user’s space. They should be able to put whatever they want in there.
Not being able to use nine pretty rarely-used characters in a filename has never once been an issue in my life.
You’re not getting my point. (purposefully, probably) I was complaining about file name extensions, which is different from character use. Also, it’s just technically offensive to not allow a thing that is totally possible to allow and will cause basically no problems at all.
Then your argument makes even less sense than I thought. I thought you were making the at least somewhat reasonable argument that you should be able to use any character you wanted to name your files, but you were actually saying that it’s bad that a file is labeled a .txt file (for example)? Jesus dude.
I don’t get how people can’t be fired up about this! It’s just technically wrong to do this. Technically offensive, as I said and you don’t seem to get.
Why should people be mad about something that doesn’t affect anyone anywhere in any way?
Because you should be mad at things that are done wrongly. It’s okay to be, try it.
Sorry I have real things to do.
Imma just post Mack memes until this useless non-conversation dies down.
Non factual. Almost all of the most powerful applications that people use started or are only on the Mac, with some being on Windows and extremely rarely on Linux.
Not factual.
