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#609754
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When did The Empire Strikes Back become more highly regarded than Star Wars?
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stretch009 said:

Tyrphanax said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Anchorhead said:

I never considered Empire superior to Star Wars.  I did like it when it was first released and even had a laserdisc of it a few years after that.  After a while, the things that I had never liked about it (Vader as father, Yoda, 3PO silliness) ended up becoming the things that caused me to lose interest.  To me, it felt small and stylized compared to Star Wars.  It was too slick, too formula.  I very much prefer the vast unknown, far away adventure of Star Wars.

I agree with you.  Also, the script and acting are noticeably better in SW (esp. Guinness and Cushing).  ESB has lots of cool stuff in it for saga fans, but as a movie, SW can stand up against any film ever made.

I dunno about that. There is a lot of weird delivery for me (Especially on Harrison's part) in Star Wars.

 

Any examples?

 

 

A lot of his lines on the Falcon on the way to the Death Star are just all run together with zero inflection and it makes it hard to follow. Makes me cringe every time.

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#609716
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When did The Empire Strikes Back become more highly regarded than Star Wars?
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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Anchorhead said:

I never considered Empire superior to Star Wars.  I did like it when it was first released and even had a laserdisc of it a few years after that.  After a while, the things that I had never liked about it (Vader as father, Yoda, 3PO silliness) ended up becoming the things that caused me to lose interest.  To me, it felt small and stylized compared to Star Wars.  It was too slick, too formula.  I very much prefer the vast unknown, far away adventure of Star Wars.

I agree with you.  Also, the script and acting are noticeably better in SW (esp. Guinness and Cushing).  ESB has lots of cool stuff in it for saga fans, but as a movie, SW can stand up against any film ever made.

I dunno about that. There is a lot of weird delivery for me (Especially on Harrison's part) in Star Wars.

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#609713
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Since when did ROTJ become less highly regarded than even Episodes II or III?
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I always liked Jedi best growing up, because, and only because, it had so much action. The forest/space/saber battle was awesome. I always rooter for the Empire. Ewoks were always lame.

As I grew up, I realized the Empire was a superior film, and that Jedi was just a flashier rehash of Star Wars that was saved in big part by the conclusion of the Vader/Luke story.

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#609700
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What Do You Remember From Your First Viewing Of The OT?
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I wasn't an "original fan" having been born in 1989, and so I only saw the theatrical editions maybe once each growing up, likely at different times; Star Wars (maybe the whole trilogy, though I only remember seeing Vader for the first time in Star Wars) was first, probably in 1995 or around then. Just before the SE came out, and probably I saw it due to the hype surrounding it.

My earliest Star Wars memories were seeing Darth Vader for the first time,  stepping onto the Tantive IV; seeing all the Shadows of the Empire stuff (and there was a lot of it, toys, books, vinyl statuettes) in my local supermarket before I really even knew what Star Wars was; and my very first Star Wars action figure, which was a Kenner Power of the Force ROTJ Luke with the detachable cloak and lightsaber. I also remember seeing at least part of ESB (because I only remember the wampa attack) in the theaters with my cousin for the re-release of the films.

My brother and I got the gold Darth Vader helmet boxed set of the SE for Christmas (I think) one year, so I really grew up with the SE, having no idea the difference between from the OOT (even though they all had the little documentary about the process and changes in the beginning of each VHS tape); things like the Jabba scene in ANH were all just normal to me, and I remember the droid hitting the other, flying droid being funny. I watched those tapes on the daily, just about.

The gold boxed set was the crappy, cropped version of the film (as opposed to the silver widescreen box), sadly; and I remember, to this day, when Luke said, "There are Sandpeople, alright; I can see one of them now" while watching the banthas through his macrobinoculars, I could never see the sandperson and wondered what the heck he was talking about. I grew up never seeing that guy.

The first time I remember noticing a difference between the versions was watching a friend's "Faces" VHS of ROTJ at his house as a little kid, and hearing the "Yub-Nub" song at the end for the first time and remarking how it was "not the right song" but not really registering that it was a different version of the films; so I just remember being really confused about the song being weird and dumb and the ending being shorter.

Because I'd grown up with the SE, and only the SE, I didn't ever really come to notice all the changes or the plight of the OT until a couple years ago, and it took me awhile to really appreciate the older version because the SE was so baked-into my brain. The more I saw of the OOT, though, the more I appreciated how much additions like the longer Mos Eisley scenes made the film drag. I didn't own a version of the films between my very first SE boxed set as a child to the fan edits of today.

Now I'm converted to an OOT purist; the guy who tells everyone about the changes and the plight of the OOT, and who carries Harmy's DEED versions around on a flash drive just in case I get into a conversation about the OT and need to evangelize, haha.

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#609695
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The Clone Wars: Season V
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Having a personal canon is a big reason a lot of people were able to justify still being Star Wars fans after the huge letdown that were the prequels.

Being able to just ignore those crummy films and build your own PT (as many had already done in the 20some years between Jedi and Menace) from allusions in the OT and in various EU materials has been great for people who can't stand the prequels at all, and now, with The Clone Wars and PT-era comics series and whatnot, though using the same characters and timeline, are frequently better-written, are great for people who like the core essence of the stories of the prequels, but thought they were bungled in execution.

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#609377
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Disney Acquires LucasFilm for $4.05 billion, Episode 7 in 2015, 8 and 9 to Follow, New Film Every 2-3 Years
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CP3S said:

Almost makes me want to encourage Anchor to give the prequels a shot. All the things that made me hate KOTCS are the same things that made me hate the prequels. Makes me think if he gave them a shot, he might be far more forgiving than the majority of us.

Twist: AH's Star Wars canon ends up consisting of only the Prequels.

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#609375
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Last movie seen
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TV's Frink said:

zombie84 said:

I never really got the Bond series. They are okay movies, I like some of them and have seen almost all of them, but I would put them in the same category as Michael Bay films, some of which I also enjoy in the same sort of dumb, comic-book sort of way. I just never got why people go ga-ga over Bond while condemning similarly stupid films to hell. Half the Bond films aren't worth watching, and of the other half that are, only half of that are really good, so that's like.....6 out of 22? Casino Royale looked like a really good film but when I finally saw it I found it to be only better-than-average. I dunno, Bond has just never excited me. Decent films, worth watching, just nothing special. I look forward to seeing Skyfall since it's supposed to be great, but I'm really only expecting something above-average, and I will definitely be waiting for home video. I only see one or two films a month, including repertoire cinemas, and my money has better places to go.

End unpopular Bond rant.

THIS, A HUNDRED TIMES THIS.

This is my Blues Brothers Moment.

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#609293
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unOfficial Massassi Temple Free Masons Rival Conspiracy Page (Outcasts Welcome)
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I'd say user error, but this forum software is kinda shit.

Anyway, the picture is open for whoever wants it, then.

 

Edit for Frink:

You could try pasting this code for your sig:

 

<a href="http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/The-Frink-Thread-Index/topic/12327/">My OT.com Threads</a> | <a href="http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Episode-I-The-Ridiculous-Menace-FULL-MOVIE-IS-NOW-AVAILABLE-FOR-ONLINE-STREAMING-SEE-FIRST-POST/topic/12452/">Episode I: TRM</a> | <a href="http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Episode-II-Attack-of-the-Ridiculousness-FULL-TRAILER-NOW-AVAILABLE/topic/13710/">Episode II: AOTR</a>

<img src="http://i.imgur.com/519gg.png" />

I tried to center it so it would look halfway decent, but apparently that is an illegal procedure. Sorry.