Tyrphanax

Hugh Laurie and Christian Bale?

I figure there's no meaning to life; you just live it.

Human minds are flawed in that they always overthink things or try to ascribe meaning where there is none because it's more comfortable to feel like things are "taken care of" than to acknowledge realities.

We come into the universe, we stay awhile, and then we leave, just like everything else in the universe. It's no more complex than that.

You just gotta live and enjoy what you have while you have it. Much more simple that way.

timdiggerm said:

Tyrphanax said:

timdiggerm said:

Tyrphanax said:

The markings on the capsule are completely new and don't match up with any Star Wars written language, which is part of why this picture excites me so much; was this supposed to be the original Star Wars language, before Aurebesh?

Aurebesh's first appearance was ROTJ in 83, right? And even then, it's not really the same aurebesh as the more modern codification.

Anyway, keep in mind that the same film has English letters on screens, particularly the Tractor Beam controls.

Yes and yes; if I remember correctly, by modern connotation, the "Aurebesh" in Jedi "translates" to gibberish, but all Aurebesh after Jedi "translates" into English.

The English in the rest of Star Wars is exactly why I find the markings on the capsule so interesting, because it makes me wonder if they were initially going to use those markings as the alphabet and then changed it so it would be readable for viewers, and then changed it again for Jedi; or if the markings are even supposed to be "letters".

I'm very okay with a universe with several alphabets.

 

And oh wow, decoding the Holiday Special alphabets. Amazing.

There's quite a few alphabets aside from Aurebesh for Star Wars, Aurebesh is just the "English" of Star Wars.

There's at least the Nabooian alphabet and the Mandalorian alphabet that are also pretty well completed. There are likely some others in some of the Coruscant scenes I'm sure.

NeverarGreat said:

Tyrphanax said:

Nah, you made a different point in terms of the sequels that I hadn't thought of, but do agree with. The Victory Celebration ties everything up almost too well since, like I said, SE Jedi was supposed to be the end of the saga and doesn't leave much room for much of a story afterwards since everything is said and done.

Although with the OT actors being as old as they are now, the likelihood that the ST will be pushed back to a point where Disney wouldn't tell the stories of the immediate aftermath of the fall of the Empire is pretty high. Problem is, dealing with a enemy other than the Empire will detach the ST from the rest of the saga (even the PT dealt with the Empire in a way)... it'll be interesting to see what they do since the end of SE Jedi really seems like everything is all wrapped up nice and neat.

All the more reason to remake the prequels with a different, more local, conflict. I'd say a war between two planets, with Anakin as the hero. An interplanetary war is still a pretty big deal, from a certain point of view.

Then we could have an epic intergalactic war for the sequel trilogy, and keep things fresh. It seems pointless to always keep the story at the same scale.

I disagree. I feel like The Clone Wars should be a massive galactic-scale conflict.

I prescribe therapy for that depression, buddy!

Mrebo said:

Rule 43, I wager you can find it ;)

Glorious schadenfreude, sean?

Oh hey. Mind blown.

Meaning of life for me is nothing, really. I just go about my business. Lotta simple tricks and nonsense.

Jaitea said:

Tyrphanax said:

Breakfast really is the most important meal of the day.

Yeah, I know, I couldn't afford a steam cleaner....in the end I just used bleach LOL

J

I've never seen Road to Perdition, but I'm pretty sure I agree with your synopsis.

The colours on that actually look pretty good.

TServo2049 said:

OK, you guys can probably ignore those images I posted. I checked another computer, a Mac, and the bottom ones look completely wrong there too. But the top ones look CLOSER to what I see on my old laptop, albeit not dim, desaturated and yellowish.

I'm thinking it's my new computer's display that needs to be adjusted somehow - even if my old display was wrong, I just can't believe that some of the odd colors I'm seeing on the new one are what Harmy intended. And the problem is that I can't show you because the images won't look the way they do on my display.

But on the same note, due to the white-balance issue, I also know that my old display must be wrong as well...

If you're running Windows 7, you could try to see if there's a colour profile that's buggering things up by opening Control Panel, typing "Color Management" in the search bar, clicking the "Color Management" result, checking the "Use my settings for this device" box under the "Devices" tab in the window that opens, making sure the dropdown list is pointed to your GPU and monitor (should be by default), and then selecting any profile that's in the "Profiles associated with this device" list and clicking "Remove". It'll ask you if you want to do it, and you do.

It will just make sure everything is at default settings; I do it every once in awhile as sometimes my whites become sepia-toned for some unknown reason. I dunno if it'll have any impact on VLC or not, but it couldn't hoit.

Nah, you made a different point in terms of the sequels that I hadn't thought of, but do agree with. The Victory Celebration ties everything up almost too well since, like I said, SE Jedi was supposed to be the end of the saga and doesn't leave much room for much of a story afterwards since everything is said and done.

Although with the OT actors being as old as they are now, the likelihood that the ST will be pushed back to a point where Disney wouldn't tell the stories of the immediate aftermath of the fall of the Empire is pretty high. Problem is, dealing with a enemy other than the Empire will detach the ST from the rest of the saga (even the PT dealt with the Empire in a way)... it'll be interesting to see what they do since the end of SE Jedi really seems like everything is all wrapped up nice and neat.

It's 42, guys.

And you call yourselves nerds. For shame.

I like the Victory Celebration quite a bit as well, having grown up with the SE.

Yub Nub has grown on me, though. To the point where I prefer it.

In the end, they're two very different endings for two very different film series; Yub Nub is the perfect closure for the OT alone (a big, but also very personal victory, with a lot more work to be done), but when you look at the broader picture with the PT and the idea that Jedi was supposed to be the end of Star Wars period, the Victory Celebration fits well (though I've always thought it was a bit weird that Tatooine cared given their backwaterness and Hutt control, and the reaction on Coruscant seemed a bit over-the-top, but that's what Star Wars is about, people rising up to throw off the shackles of oppression-I mean young hot sexy muscular Hayden Christensen (AKA HayChris) with the handsome face before he turned into the white egg man in the cyborg samurai armour with the James Earl Jones voice Darth Vader).

Breakfast really is the most important meal of the day.

Fuck bitches, get money.

This is like the Random Thoughts thread.

Jaitea said:

 

Tyrphanax said:

Jaitea said:

Akwat Kbrana said:

Please, please, please don't include Samuel Jackson (or any other PT actor) in the sequel films. The last thing the ST needs is overt association with the prequels. Even the most-likely-inevitable inclusion of PT terminology (padawan, youngling, battle droids, midichlorians, etc.) will only serve to highlight how far the Star Wars franchise has fallen. But overtly featuring PT material visually (like showing elderly Boba clones, including the stupid padawan-braid, or casting any of the PT actors in these films, except for Anthony Daniels, Kenny Baker, and Peter Mayhew) is possibly the worst decision that the new franchise owners could make.

I agree, I've divorced the Prequels from my mind, it would be an utter shame if the new films linked to that shite

J

I really hate to break it to you guys, but it's likely going to happen. The Prequels are part of the "saga" now, unfortunate though that may be, and crappy as the films undeniably were.

I don't see how you could expect otherwise.

To tell you the truth, that is what I expect....but I'm trying to kid myself that they'll try & steer clear

J

 

Personally, I feel like well-written EU stuff, and things like The Clone Wars have really softened the blows of the Prequel Trilogy for me. They've made a lot of the junk that came out of the Prequels not only bearable, but enjoyable in some cases. I have a feeling that Disney will also be able to take the Prequel stuff and make it bearable as well; it can be done.

I just would hate for you guys to be disappointed by something that is basically a given. Now might be the time to try to get into some of that stuff.

I hate final exams.

Let the dogs have 'em once. That'll learn 'em.

We need a "Troll Speculation" thread.

Moth3r said:

Americans,

Why do all your phone numbers start with 555?

(Actually, I know the answer - it was explained in The Last Action Hero.)

Mine starts with 520.

Oh dear.

Jaitea said:

Akwat Kbrana said:

Please, please, please don't include Samuel Jackson (or any other PT actor) in the sequel films. The last thing the ST needs is overt association with the prequels. Even the most-likely-inevitable inclusion of PT terminology (padawan, youngling, battle droids, midichlorians, etc.) will only serve to highlight how far the Star Wars franchise has fallen. But overtly featuring PT material visually (like showing elderly Boba clones, including the stupid padawan-braid, or casting any of the PT actors in these films, except for Anthony Daniels, Kenny Baker, and Peter Mayhew) is possibly the worst decision that the new franchise owners could make.

I agree, I've divorced the Prequels from my mind, it would be an utter shame if the new films linked to that shite

J

I really hate to break it to you guys, but it's likely going to happen. The Prequels are part of the "saga" now, unfortunate though that may be, and crappy as the films undeniably were.

I don't see how you could expect otherwise.

timdiggerm said:

Tyrphanax said:

The markings on the capsule are completely new and don't match up with any Star Wars written language, which is part of why this picture excites me so much; was this supposed to be the original Star Wars language, before Aurebesh?

Aurebesh's first appearance was ROTJ in 83, right? And even then, it's not really the same aurebesh as the more modern codification.

Anyway, keep in mind that the same film has English letters on screens, particularly the Tractor Beam controls.

Yes and yes; if I remember correctly, by modern connotation, the "Aurebesh" in Jedi "translates" to gibberish, but all Aurebesh after Jedi "translates" into English.

The English in the rest of Star Wars is exactly why I find the markings on the capsule so interesting, because it makes me wonder if they were initially going to use those markings as the alphabet and then changed it so it would be readable for viewers, and then changed it again for Jedi; or if the markings are even supposed to be "letters".

darth_ender said:

I believe it's from a book I used to (or still may, somewhere) have called The Star Wars Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels--yes, the original, not the new.  As for being a solar ionization reactor, assuming a broader interpretation of solar meaning any sun, and based on something I remember reading years ago (so you can totally quote me on this), it's supposed to be a small, self-contained fusion reactor--esentially a small sun inside the vessel.  And fusion does indeed involved ionized gas, so....  Yes, it's techno-babble, but that is the reasoning, I'm confident.

Bingo.

The output of the reactor of a Star Destroyer is roughly that of a "miniature sun" and the reactor itself is so large that it does indeed "stick out" at the bottom.

Here's an official cross-section of the ship.

Brooks said:

1990osu said:

General Grievous

Nearly any possible potential fear of Grievous is eliminated as soon as he doubles over to begin hacking and wheezing...

Interesting point about that:  in the original clone wars cartoon, the mini series one, the end of the series showed Grevious kidnapping Palpatine and it led directly to the beginning of ROTS.  In the cartoon one of the Jedi (Mace?  Yoda?  I can't remember) uses the force to crush Grevious's midsection.  I always felt like that was why he was hacking.  Otherwise it seems pretty random.

That is correct; Lucas wanted the cartoon to lead directly into the opening moments of Sith, hence the whole kidnapping of Palpatine bit, in which Grievous was not only not coughing, but also stood up straight. What Lucas failed to take into consideration (or didn't care about) was that not everybody who saw Sith saw the cartoon, and therefore a lot of people were totally unprepared for Grievous to be "damaged".

Unfortunately with both Clone Wars and The Clone Wars, there's a ton of exposition and character development that should have been in the Prequels themselves. Watching both series really enhances the prequels (as much as you can polish a turd), but it's sad and rather pathetic when you have to watch these supplementary shows in order to really understand the "main canon" films.