Sorry Duracell, I missed my period again so I'm putting 2 at the end of this sentance..
*edit: the beginning of that sentance sounds bad lol*
Well that's too bad it had to end! I missed all the fun!!
Well hopefully Danfun will come back now anyways
Post Praetorian said:
Trident said:
#6
Prison inmates should work for pay while in prison, but a part of that pay should be sent to the victims of their crime. They should not get out of jail until they have paid their victim the amount the court figures they were owed. This means that all prison sentances would be based on restorative justice rather than simply on punishment.
By being able to restore a financial payment to their victim the inmate has a chance of earning a sense that they have truly paid their debt to society rather than an abiding anger at being held in a cage for a random number of years.
Might it not be disconcerting to no small few to realize the life of a loved one might amount only to $420.50 monthly...? However, the thought is considerate...and we could use the money...although it is uncertain if the depositing of said cheque along with other notable income might elicit persistent negative memories...never mind contemplating how to record it on one's taxes...is there yet a line for blood money allowance...?
I don't know what you mean. What are you talking about that you could use the money? And why would it be only $420 a month? Otherwise do you think it's a good idea or not? I really don't know that it would be blood money so much as restitution.
Post Praetorian said:
Trident said:
I don't know why I am bothering to post this here since I don't seem to get anyone wanting to explain why any of these ideas won't work, but #5 is about welfare.
To get welfare you should have to work at some job to the best of your abilities. There are tons of things that could be done, but some of them would be like getting paid to fix up their own house or their landlord's house (by re-painting the outside or fixing the fence, etc. Then pay them to fix up and paint as many neighbor houses as wanted so that they could make the whole area look nicer. They could learn a trade, get skilled at it and not lose self respect or a working routine. Then every Friday they could get paid to deliver resumes. The resume would have a centralized phone number with an extension for them on it. They would get bonuses for each unique business that called them up for an interview and then a big bonus for getting hired and another one for staying at a job for more than 6 months. After that they could not go back on welfare until they had earned the same amount of money working at a job that they collected while on welfare (they'd keep the money, it would just be a guide to make sure people weren't just getting fired in order to get hired and get bonuses again) or until double the length of time they were on welfare had passed.
Tell me why this is a bad idea or how it could be made better.
It is wondered whether the landlord is apt to enjoy having his or her windows painted shut by a tenant whose likely chief preoccupation with the job at had is to have it finished with as soon as possible...finished with in such a way as to never demand an encore...
OK so how would you do it? Do you think making them work is a bad idea or do you think they just shouldn't paint their masters houses? I mean maybe they could just paint each other's houses or ?
OMG I was lucky! Oh yeah! So I figured I was screwed big time, but I managed to talk my way out of it. I didn't know for sure until yesterday, but the heat's off for now.
So thanks to everyone who left the door open. I've got joy for that and no pain. I'm in a good place right now!
So now I've got to catch up a bit. I know I was only gone a week, but it's felt like ages.
So what the hell is going on with you Danfun? I thought you were gonna be my pal when I got back, but you've run off? What?!
Well I do hope you are doing better buddy Leonardo, and I'm ready for some more arguing Mr. Frink. Duracel, you have a great mind I've only partly explored so I hope we're gonna have more time for that.
Thanks dclarg and Darth Ender for the nice words and Ric, I'm sure I've got some more questions coming for you.
Right now I'm working 14 hour days so I'm not going to be coming on much during the day, but I will check in from time to time when I can, but mostly I'm going to hang here on my days off. Sometimes I get 1 and sometimes I get 3 in a row so we'll see what happens about that!
(So if it takes me time to get back to you its probably because I'm earning $$$ and not because I've got nothing to say lol!)
I just about didn't get my computer back and I didn't even know if I'd remember my password even if I could, but it worked out OK. Well enough about that--I've got some reading to do!!
It's a bit of a story, but I won't be here when you all wake up tomorrow. I won't be here the day after either. In fact, I don't think I'll be here for a while. I've got something coming down that I can't get out of so I'm going to have to take off. Thanks again to my cyber-buddies! Take care all! I think I'm going to miss this place. Even though I wasn't here very long you guys took care of me. Hopefully everything will turn out alright and I'll be back sooner than I think and I can let you know how it went.
We will join if we will let us!
Leonardo said:
Trident said:
Leonardo said:
Weeping silently by myself. I have my ups and downs, like always, but each passing day is torture, and utterly, utterly meaningless. Every night I go to bed at 4am, and "wake up" at 11. I'm going slightly mad.
I don't love myself.
I can't.
Well anyone who can think kind thoughts about me is maybe a little crazy, but certainly worthy of love in return. I don't know much about you, but you seem to have a noble spirit and are not afraid to offer your friendship to a guy who doesn't really deserve it. I am honored to be your friend and think you have to be at least a little bit easier on yourself.
I mean, I don't know why you can't love yourself, but I certainly understand the feeling! I think I also know what you mean about the meaninglessness of life. I do not know why I am doing anything. I don't have a reason to live. I don't have close personal connections and I don't think I have a great expectation of the future, but in the end you might exist just to be able to share your empathy and understanding of life's pain with another during their time of need. I know you did that for me. I really want to do the same for you.
Hey thanks man. I appreciate it.
As I was writing that post in the politics thread, I realized I was saying "love yourself" and yet I myself can't seem to. It was no shock to me, but the realization made me really sad. If it wasn't almost 2AM I'd sing my heart out, like I usually do when I feel down.
Just to clarify, the meaninglessness of life doesn't bother me, I'm an atheist, and I've come to accept that. Doesn't bother me in the least.
It's what I've done with mine that makes me want to hate myself, and I should, and I do. I've wasted it. I don't live, I vegetate. I'm a lazy imbecile, who's too lazy, and too scared to move on with his life. This is why I hate myself, because I know I'm the problem, and won't do anything that will change the situation.
Well that's harsh. What can you do to break that pattern? I know all about being too scared to move on. I've drifted along in life to the point where I never got used to sticking my neck out. So now I work in a job that I hate and don't think I'll ever leave. So do you have any routine you can get on? Is there any excuse you can use to force yourself to get out and do stuff?
not afraid to offer your friendship to a guy who doesn't really deserve it.
but you do deserve friendship. From what I've read, you sound like a totally normal person. I don't know how old you are, but you'll (hopefully) eventually detach yourself from your strict upbringing, and understand you're not a bad person.
Thanks. It's hard to imagine getting from here to there right now, but thanks.
I once watched Rainbow. It was basically Rambo as a hippy. I do not recommend it. I never knew you could do that with a ring before seeing that show!
Leonardo said:
Weeping silently by myself. I have my ups and downs, like always, but each passing day is torture, and utterly, utterly meaningless. Every night I go to bed at 4am, and "wake up" at 11. I'm going slightly mad.
I don't love myself.
I can't.
Well anyone who can think kind thoughts about me is maybe a little crazy, but certainly worthy of love in return. I don't know much about you, but you seem to have a noble spirit and are not afraid to offer your friendship to a guy who doesn't really deserve it. I am honored to be your friend and think you have to be at least a little bit easier on yourself.
I mean, I don't know why you can't love yourself, but I certainly understand the feeling! I think I also know what you mean about the meaninglessness of life. I do not know why I am doing anything. I don't have a reason to live. I don't have close personal connections and I don't think I have a great expectation of the future, but in the end you might exist just to be able to share your empathy and understanding of life's pain with another during their time of need. I know you did that for me. I really want to do the same for you.
Handman said:
This whole situation reminds me of a video here.
It doesn't get said better than that. Thanks!
Mrebo said:
Trident said:
I don't understand why anyone would be sensitive to short-bus jokes and then ride along with clown porn posts as if that was much more normal.
What if one of us had a brother/sister/child who was a clown?
What if I'm offended about pornography being thought of as funny?
But really, what about fat kid jokes? What if one of us is fat? Do we just stop telling jokes because some one might get offended? Or do we just deal with the fact that life is full of shit and sometimes telling jokes is just a way of dealing with it from time to time? I mean after our problems one thing that kept us going wasn't clamming up about it every time it came up, but just laughing about it more and more. We delt with it and it got better and people didn't feel awkward around us because they were afraid they'd offend us. But we have thick skins I guess.
Let's face it, we're all living on a tiny little planet in an increadibly vast universe and we and even our solar system is going to die one day so who really has time to worry about stuff anyway?
Obviously nobody is making fun of Frink's daughter but he is sensitive to jokes relating to people with intellectual disabilities, made however innocently. My position is basically that even if I think a person is being too sensitive about something, in a small circle such as this, once we know it bothers them, we can be sensitive to that. If I had an unfortunate run-in with a clown as a child and expressed that, I hope others would show the same sensitivity.
OK, you might have a point. I just read Frink a little differently. I saw him as an attention-seeker and every attention seeker I have ever known has not hesitated to talk about their problems in order to gain more attention. By drawing an imaginary line and pretending to be offended over the mention that some people have disabilities that would be out of place super-imposed on others he seemed to be making a topic emotionally charged for no reason.
We all have problems and I doubt he would be impressed if we all ruined every one of his jokes with a different set of our problems every day.
But on the chance that I am wrong and this is really emotionally distressing to the guy who has no problem talking casually about horse-clown-porn, I will not make fun of short-busses.
I am new to this site and don't want to come in here and ruin it for those who know the score better than I do.
#6
Prison inmates should work for pay while in prison, but a part of that pay should be sent to the victims of their crime. They should not get out of jail until they have paid their victim the amount the court figures they were owed. This means that all prison sentances would be based on restorative justice rather than simply on punishment.
By being able to restore a financial payment to their victim the inmate has a chance of earning a sense that they have truly paid their debt to society rather than an abiding anger at being held in a cage for a random number of years.
Possessed said:
Trident said:
Danfun128 said:
It's a good thing this is off-topic. Otherwise you probably wouldn't be getting away with these multi-posts.
This place is kind of strange. I think I'm going to try somewhere else for a bit.
Not sure if you are serious or are yanking my chain. Or if you are seriously yanking my chain.
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TV's Frink said:
Trident said:
I don't understand why anyone would be sensitive to short-bus jokes and then ride along with clown porn posts as if that was much more normal.
What if one of us had a brother/sister/child who was a clown?
What if I'm offended about pornography being thought of as funny?
But really, what about fat kid jokes? What if one of us is fat? Do we just stop telling jokes because some one might get offended? Or do we just deal with the fact that life is full of shit and sometimes telling jokes is just a way of dealing with it from time to time? I mean after our problems one thing that kept us going wasn't clamming up about it every time it came up, but just laughing about it more and more. We delt with it and it got better and people didn't feel awkward around us because they were afraid they'd offend us. But we have thick skins I guess.
The answer to your questions is basically shut the fuck up. You want to make fun of my child, you go right ahead. And if you don't understand the difference between short bus jokes and clown/horse jokes, you're not worth one second of my time.
Oh grow up! You act like you never made these kind of jokes when you were younger, but I bet you did.
The point is that you act like a jack-ass to half the people here and then you suddenly expect us to get all sensitive to your one personal trauma. Like you are the only one with problems.
You might pretend that people are personally attacking you when you hear them joke about people who are slow, but you know they aren't. You know they are just trying to let off steam and have fun, but none of us can really have fun in this world can we? We always have to be serious because something bad has happened to all of us. Something awful and twisted is always around the corner, but if we can't be light-hearted from time to time what is the point of even going on? Do we all have to live in a dark closet and cry all day?
I've done enough of that to last a lifetime. Enough is enough. It is time to realize that life is short and our problems are temporary. No one will remember us or them in 50 or 100 years.
It was the best I could do
I don't like her eyeshadow.
ray_afraid said:
Trident said:
...that orange guy...
...that yellow girl...
Haha, that poor kid!
I like money a lot, but I also like not going out to make it. It's an impass.
I don't understand why anyone would be sensitive to short-bus jokes and then ride along with clown porn posts as if that was much more normal.
What if one of us had a brother/sister/child who was a clown?
What if I'm offended about pornography being thought of as funny?
But really, what about fat kid jokes? What if one of us is fat? Do we just stop telling jokes because some one might get offended? Or do we just deal with the fact that life is full of shit and sometimes telling jokes is just a way of dealing with it from time to time? I mean after our problems one thing that kept us going wasn't clamming up about it every time it came up, but just laughing about it more and more. We delt with it and it got better and people didn't feel awkward around us because they were afraid they'd offend us. But we have thick skins I guess.
Let's face it, we're all living on a tiny little planet in an increadibly vast universe and we and even our solar system is going to die one day so who really has time to worry about stuff anyway?
I don't know why I am bothering to post this here since I don't seem to get anyone wanting to explain why any of these ideas won't work, but #5 is about welfare.
To get welfare you should have to work at some job to the best of your abilities. There are tons of things that could be done, but some of them would be like getting paid to fix up their own house or their landlord's house (by re-painting the outside or fixing the fence, etc. Then pay them to fix up and paint as many neighbor houses as wanted so that they could make the whole area look nicer. They could learn a trade, get skilled at it and not lose self respect or a working routine. Then every Friday they could get paid to deliver resumes. The resume would have a centralized phone number with an extension for them on it. They would get bonuses for each unique business that called them up for an interview and then a big bonus for getting hired and another one for staying at a job for more than 6 months. After that they could not go back on welfare until they had earned the same amount of money working at a job that they collected while on welfare (they'd keep the money, it would just be a guide to make sure people weren't just getting fired in order to get hired and get bonuses again) or until double the length of time they were on welfare had passed.
Tell me why this is a bad idea or how it could be made better.
Danfun128 said:
It's a good thing this is off-topic. Otherwise you probably wouldn't be getting away with these multi-posts.
This place is kind of strange. I think I'm going to try somewhere else for a bit.
So I've been reading the link you gave me to Ric (even though I really should be doing something else right now) and I think you were funnier as Ric than as Frink. I mean don't get me wrong, Frink has more range, but Ric never facepalmed anyone for trying to contribute or anything so he feels more friendly.
That said, I don't think I'd have any chance getting a real conversation out of Ric besides him pointing out my spelling mistakes or whatever so maybe it's better you chose to keep Frink.
Too bad you couldn't keep both because it seemed like this place was more fun back then. Right now it seems kind of self-absorbed.
TV's Frink said:
This thread should be renamed "Impractical Thinking."
But you haven't contributed enough to it yet in order to force a complete thread title change based on your input.
Why not just tell me what you don't like about the ideas and maybe I can think about them some more.
It's not like I'm in power of anything. I can't do any of these. I'm just thinking that the way things are could be better.
