As I said, you don’t. The film stands on its own well. They recap his appearance in Civil War at the beginning of Homecoming very well and in quite a fun way.
You can jump right into Homecoming with the films you have seen. There’ll be some vague references to events outside of it but they don’t affect the plot. If, however, you do want to start with Spider-man’s first appearance. I would highly recommend watching the Captain America trilogy. Some find the first film a little too cheesy (I loved it) but it sets the foundation for Winter Soldier and Civil War which are entirely different beasts and some of the best films in the MCU.
Still don’t know if I’d want to play ALIENS: Colonial Marines.
Don’t.
I have a feeling the next show will probably be set post-OT. Marvel seems to have a lock on the OT period unfortunately. =(
Man I miss DROIDS. =(
A bunch of dialog is God awful… Uncle Ben’s death scene…
Spider-man is fundamentally a youthful character compared to the others. He provides a nice contrast to everyone else.
It was great that they finally signed on someone who was close to the age of the character. Tobey Maguire was 27 when his first Spider-man film was released, while Andrew Garfield was 29!
In contrast, Tom Holland was only 20 when he made his debut in Civil War.
To put it into perspective, there is only a 10 year age difference between Tobey Maguire and the current Aunt May. He could reasonably play Uncle Ben now.
Is the curly haired guy in the brown sweater gonna be Lobot?
I’m gonna say yes.I wouldn’t put it past them. “Leave no stone unturned” appears to be the rule of the day (Or perhaps that’s “No backstory left to the imagination.”).
That’s Phil Lord.
The novelization of Alien Covenant fixes damn near every problem I have with the film and gives me hope that most of these fixes were in deleted scenes.
I’m going to say they’re not and you have Alan Dean Foster to thank. He has a habit of trying to fix things when hired for novelizations. Saw him speak at a convention a year ago and he went on about what a huge pain it was trying to figure out a way to make Starkiller Base make any sense as depicted in the film. He did a ton of research and consulted with astrophysicists and was very pleased when LFL kept all his work in the final book and made it canon.
Yes, yes she was.
Haarspalter in order not to clutter up this thread, I’ve continued this discussion over here.
Continuing on from this post:
It’s the third Captain America film.
No, it’s not. It is basically The Avengers 2.5: The Apology for Age of Ultron. It wouldn’t be that much of a problem, if the movie would feature just Cap as the main character, hence the title CAPTAIN AMERICA.
The whole heart of the film is a continuation of what came before in Winter Soldier and First Avenger. The film is about Captain America refusing to give up on his best friend or to compromise his morals.
Even you stick just the Cap movies, with Civil War the viewers face serious problems to follow/understand what’s going on.
The audience doesn’t live in a vacuum, if they’ve made it through three Captain America films then they’re well aware of the Avengers and Iron Man even if they haven’t seen those films.
If Gunn is trying to avoid the repercussions of his heroes mingling with the greater MCU then why didn’t he set Vol. 3 before Infinity War?
My guess is, Gunn sets GOTG3 eight years after Infinity War, because the incidents of that movie will be probably be dealt with - mentally & personally for the GOTG ensemble. Gunn won’t have to make to make a big deal out of it. Maybe the GOTG characters will mention the Infinity War in one or two scences. The most important thing: with the eight year time gap, Infinity War is out of the way and Gunn can focus on the third story he wants to tell for the GOTG ensemble. And mark my words: none of the Avengers guys will have a supporting role or impact in that movie.
I’ve been doing some serious digging and I have yet to find any evidence to support this idea that Vol. 3 is set 8 years after Infinity War that you keep bringing up. What is currently known is that Vol. 2 is set two months after the first film in 2014 and that Infinity War takes place four years after Vol. 2. Which means that Infinity War takes place in 2018, the same year of its release. All that’s known about Vol. 3 is that it takes place after the Infinity War.
Do you have a source for this eight year thing?
Putting that aside for the moment. The Guardians are and always have been an integral part of what’s happening in the MCU. They’re tied to Thanos and Thanos is the big bad that everything has been leading to. The first Guardians was the first time Thanos saw any significant amount of screen time. It also is the film that explains what the infinity stones are, the very McGuffins that have been driving the entire MCU plot forward in the background. Both Gamora and Nebula are daughters of Thanos and are undoubtedly going to play a very significant role during the Infinity War.
She should start acting like a producer IMO.
I’m sure the co-founder of Amblin Entertainment and producer on the Indiana Jones trilogy, Back to the Future, E.T., Jurassic Park, Schindler’s List, etc. really values your opinion.
New in-depth article from THR:
New details emerge from the set of the troubled Han Solo movie (an editor fired, a last-minute acting coach hired) as insiders debate whether problems trace to directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller, or if the Disney and Lucasfilm series can accommodate divergent styles.
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Notable excerpts:
Matters had already reached a boiling point in mid-June when Phil Lord and Chris Miller, co-directors of the still-untitled young Han Solo movie, were in the cockpit of the Millennium Falcon but didn’t start shooting until 1 p.m. That day the two used only three different setups — that is, three variations on camera placement — as opposed to the 12 to 15 that Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy had expected, according to sources with knowledge of the situation. Not only was the going slow, but the few angles that had been shot did not provide a wealth of options to use in editing the movie.
This was hardly the first time Kennedy was unhappy with how the film was progressing. And as he looked at dailies from his home in Los Angeles, Lawrence Kasdan — screenwriter, executive producer and keeper of the Stars Wars flame — also was said to be displeased.
Anxious to avoid an outright rupture, Kennedy is said to have made attempts first to support and eventually to supplant Lord and Miller to some degree, as happened with Gareth Edwards on the troubled Rogue One. In that case, screenwriter Tony Gilroy took on significant duties with the cooperation of Edwards; in this case, sources say, Kennedy attempted to cast Kasdan in that role. Unsurprisingly, Lord and Miller were less accommodating than Edwards, still a novice, had been. Lord and Miller declined to comment, as did Kennedy.
Matters were coming to a head in May as the production moved from London to the Canary Islands. Lucasfilm replaced editor Chris Dickens (Macbeth) with Oscar-winner Pietro Scalia, a veteran of Ridley Scott films including Alien: Covenant and The Martian. And, not entirely satisfied with the performance that the directors were eliciting from Rules Don’t Apply star Alden Ehrenreich, Lucasfilm decided to bring in an acting coach. (Hiring a coach is not unusual; hiring one that late in production is.) Lord and Miller suggested writer-director Maggie Kiley, who worked with them on 21 Jump Street.
Which of Capaldi’s companions do you refer to?
The one that stayed on the show two seasons too long.
Capaldi for me is by far the best Doctor of the revival series. In spite of the terrible writing and being stuck with the worst companion since the show was brought back.
This season has been such a breath of fresh air after the last few. I so desperately wish Capaldi was staying for at least another year.
No and was built from the ground up with that in mind.
The worst thing that happened to DS9:
Oops, wait, that’s wrong. That’s the second worst thing that happened to DS9. This is the first:
I think you meant:
And that’s the reason why the GOTG movies stick out of the MCU - they work very good on their own without the necessity of watching/knowing the other ‘standard’ MCU superhero movies. I dare you, try to watch Captain America 3: Civil War without knowing the precursor movies. James Gunn is aware of that. Is it a coincidence that the third GOTG movie is supposed to take place approximately eight years after the Infinity War? Guess not - Gunn wants to keep the GOTG to be detached to a certain point of view within the MCU.
Let’s examine this shall we?
I dare you, try to watch Captain America 3: Civil War without knowing the precursor movies.
Let’s pay attention to the first half of the title, more specifically the numerical designation. It’s the third Captain America film. Good luck jumping into Return of the King without having seen the first two films. Guardians of the Galaxy is the first film in its franchise, of course anyone can jump right into it. The first entry of any of the MCU’s various series are easy to jump into. You don’t need to know anything about the other MCU films before jumping into Doctor Strange or Ant-Man either. How much is a viewer going to get out of GOTG Vol. 2 without seeing the first?
Is it a coincidence that the third GOTG movie is supposed to take place approximately eight years after the Infinity War? Guess not - Gunn wants to keep the GOTG to be detached to a certain point of view within the MCU.
GOTG Vol. 2 is set around six months after the first film which puts it around the year 2012. GOTG Vol. 3 is set to release in 2020, eight years after the original film was released. Both Infinity War films will have been out by this time. If Gunn is trying to avoid the repercussions of his heroes mingling with the greater MCU then why didn’t he set Vol. 3 before Infinity War?
sigh
They can’t even get the transporter room right:
Well I’m serious, I’d love a sequel to Willow.
Update from The Hollywood Reporter
Lord and Miller (21 Jump Street, The Lego Movie) have a comedic sensibility and improvisational style while Kasdan favors a strict adherence to the written word — what is on the page is what must be shot.
The creative clash, according to one insider, also came down to differences in understanding the character of Han Solo. “People need to understand that Han Solo is not a comedic personality. He’s sarcastic and selfish,” said that source.
The friction was felt almost immediately when the movie began shooting in February, sources say, but the directors always thought it could be worked through. Kennedy, the producer and head of Lucasfilm, decided to back her lifelong colleague, who shaped much of Solo’s character in Empire and Return of the Jedi and who had a specific tone in mind for the new movie. The duo also didn’t feel they had the support of producer Allison Shearmur, who was acting as Lucasfilm’s representative on the London set.
