One thing that struck me in a weird way was how Fennec was handled in Book 2. We never see how that wannabe Bounty Hunter gets the Information on Mando, so this could be a bit of a leap for a first time viewer.
Really looking forward to it.
There is an instance in the first Cad Bane scene where Omegas Bow just disappears from her back.
I think adding the few missing seconds there is worth it to not have the Continuity issue. 😃
What is it about that bow? 🤣
This kinda lines up nicely with the timing of the Cloning Palp Storyline from BB. Right after Anakin becomes uninteresting as a host via barbecue, Palps starts the Clone project.
The Bow thing is definitely not worth including a complete side arc.
With the training sequence I would say it might have a bit of value to show at least a little of it, not only because it flows better in that moment, also because the location comes back at the end.
But make no mistake: Outstanding edit and just like TNR my Goto version of this content from now on.
Tip for bystanders: Rebels Recut has the Ryloth Arc as a bonus episode which can be slotted in after this cut without too much headache, giving a very full-universe picture for a complete Star Wars Binge.
Watched it today and it was super nice as always!
The cut from Tarkin announcing a demonstration to after the training was a bit abrupt, maybe this could profit from leaving at least a few seconds of it in…
Smaller thing that can probably not be easily solved: Omegas Bow kinda comes out of nowhere. (Dont remember how the show originally introduced it, been a while)
I could export a 5.1 clip from my BluRay Rips and send it to Kestrel to check if that produces the same problem.
Have not gotten around to watch it yet, but will make sure to give feedback once I do!
I tried to keep that a bit more ambiguous- I’m trying to convey that Palpatine wanted conflict to lead her down the dark path, not specifically the events of starkiller.
This totally might be a “me” thing, but the line currently reads as “Palps does not know where she is in the galaxy and at that moment she revealed her location” to me. Which is why the “intended” part kinda does not make sense.
There is one specific line thet does not quite sit right with me: "just as he’d intended.”
This kinda sounds like Palps orchestrated the specific circumstances of her reveal. But to do that, he would have had to already known where Rey is… Making the reveal not necessary.
I think it would be better to have something here that conveys Palps has been waiting for this moment.
I do not have a 5.1 setup and use VLC to play it and do not encounter any issues with this cut being left leaning.
Do you use the BluRays as a source?
OK, this one is going to be a bit darker. I wanted to focus each section on 1 or 2 things and make it more ambiguous how much Palpatine is in control or just riding on the wave of events.
I also wanted it to feel more like a conclusion of the whole Saga.
…
"I pushed you in the desert because I needed to see it… I needed you to see it… who you are. The dark side is in your very nature, Rey…”
“You’re lying.”
"When your mother noticed you were growing inside her, she tried to get rid of you…”
“Don’t!”
“But you forced yourself into this world nonetheless…”
“I don’t want this!”
"…because you had a purpose…”
“No!”
“Nothing will stand in the way of your destiny!”
(Rey sees the vision of herself on the Sith throne)
“Fate lead your parents to seek passage onboard a Sith vessel…”
(vision of Oochis ship leaving)
“Stop it!”
“… But they had to sell something to pay for it…”
(short vision of little rey crying)
(Cutaway to heroes capture)
“Your parents neglect was your luck. Palpatine would have found you that day otherwise… So you stayed hidden… until our first fight in the woods…"
(Visions of Rey opening her eyes and then cut to Palpatine taking notice)
“No!”
(A pedestal shatters and the mask of Vader falls to the ground)
“So that’s where you are.”
“This mask represents the choice we both have to make."
“No…”
"I’ll tell you why.”
—
“I know the rest of your story.”
“Tell me.”
"Just like Vader, you are born of turmoil. A result of Palpatine intruding the very essence of the force. In a way, you are his child.”
(vision from Rots where Palps talks about creating life, maybe a short “there was no father” by Shmi as well)
"He has been searching a new host for a long time now. Vader burned, Luke refused to play his game…”
(Maybe some visions of those scenes while he talks, which gives us a bit more time for dialogue)
"Now he has set his eyes on us. If we fight each other, the survivor will only have proven to be a worthy vessel. We have to use our connection, defeat him together, finish what Vader has started.
Without going into the actual subject, JJB makes a very important point here.
Ideally the ideas are simple enough that an average viewer paying an average amount of attention can grasp what is going on when watching the movie for the first time.
Mando finally getting a hint on where to find a Jedi from Bo Katan could be a nice jumping off point… Maybe put Ahsokas solo fight scene right after it to round off the episode and tease the next chapter.
My preference would always be for a longer runtime that preserves all the necessary scenes over a shorter runtime. So I’d argue for the inclusion of all of those things.
BoBF, Mando 3, and Ahsoka, can all fit in single movies. But I’d argue that Mando 1 and 2 could each make two great movies, when intercut with BoBF’s contemporary flashbacks. Acbagel did this to great effect in his similar edit.
His first movie was Mando episodes 1,2,6,3, which really works in that order and gives you more Mayfield and helps enhance Mando’s moral compass. His second concluded the first season and intercut with Boba. His third truncated the early Mando S2 content and included most of the Boba overlap, and then his fourth was the final few S2 episodes with plenty of breathing room to keep all those key scenes in.
I think TNR Ep 1 works very well as is, but would be excited to see more of the (not horrible) Boba Flashbacks from the beginning on!
Like I said above already, totally think season 2 actually needs to be split in 2 movies.
Having the Morgan fight would also be nice because of the Thrawn reference, it would give us an idea of what Ahsoka is up to early on. But I see why that is difficult Structurally.
Just throwing out ideas: Maybe this is a 2-movie edit?
One that intercuts Ahsoka with Mando, culminating in them finally meeting and working together at the end. (Opening fight scene of Ahsoka attacking the city would also need to be reinstated)
And then one that shows Bobas journey parallel to Mandos, culminating in those 2 meeting.
a bit less concise, but maybe it would give the audience more room to breath.
It is obviously too early for feedback on the cut itself.
But I think there was a messup in the rendering process. The black bars are part of the video file, resulting in this on my ultrawide:
https://ibb.co/v3yGKS7
Super excited, would love a link once it is ready 😃
I am working on a fanedit and there is less than 10 minutes of footage only available in stereo. Since the rest is in 5.1, it would stand out.
My research shows that there are programs to automatically Upmix Stereo, but they cost around 500 bucks. Which is too much to pay for a few minutes of footage.
Anyone here has access to one of these programs and can help out? I would donate some money for a pizza or do a favour in return, if I can. 😃
edit: A credit in the edit will also be there, of course!
I really really hope they use TotJ season 2 to finish the Storyline of Ventress.
I like the recontextualization of Reys memories as lies she tells herself. This goes very well with TLJ. The one below turned out to be a Rey Noone edit.
“Rey….wherever you are…You are hard to find.
“You are hard to get rid of.”
“I pushed you in the desert because I needed to see it…I needed you to see it…who you have always been. The dark side incarnate…”
“You’re lying.”
“Your parents did not realize what you were…”
“Don’t!”
“If they did, they would have tried to sell you to the Sith…”
“I don’t want this!”
“Do you see the Throne?”
(Maybe insert flashing Throne vision here)
“No!”
“How did you resist this draw for so long?”
(Rey sees the vision of her parents and her abandonment.)
“My Love…be brave.”
“You’ll be safe here…I promise.”
“Come back! Nooo!”
“So these are the lies you told yourself.”
“Stop talking.”
"Made up memories will not protect you forever.”
(Cutaway to heroes capture)
“Your parents did not even remember who they sold you to… So when Palpatines hunters found them, they could not tell them where to find you.”
(Rey sees her parents get killed.)
“So that’s where you are.”
“I know how this story ends…why Palpatine wanted you dead. I’ll come tell you.”
…
“Why did the Emperor come for me? Why did he want to kill a child? Tell me.”
“Just as my grandfather was born to bring balance, you were born to bring chaos… Another chosen one…”
“This is why he fears you… You are powerful… And we share a bond… Together, we can defeat him. The power of the Skywalkers combined with the power of the dark side…"
“You know what you need to do. You know.”
“I do.”
…
One little idea for the scene where Krrsantan starts the bar fight:
Would it be possible to add a few lines or subtitles to explain why he attacks the trandoshans?
“This game goes smooth like a Wookiepelt”
“This is more fun than a wookiehunt”
“The win goes to the Wookie-Hunters”
(needs to be more subtle than this)
I am not completely casual, but had to look that up. It would be nicer to have an implication in the actual episode.
At some point, this movie might actually become logical.
Love these brainstorming, every idea is a bit better than the last one.
Yeah, I know Lukes training is supposed to be months, but the movie itself never read that way to me. Always felt like a retcon after the fact by the power of interviews and commentaries, exactly like Feloni now tries to sell Grogu having been with Luke for a long time.
Just watched it and it flowed super well. It has been a while since I watched the Original and it really is hard to tell where parts are missing. Amazing work as always.
One little thing stuck out a bit though. Quill mentions the kid not having grown when Mando comes back to him. Which is weird, because in this edit it has been only 2 days since they last met. Even a human would not have grown in this time. If there was a way to remove or replace that line, that would be the icing on the cake!