Tyrphanax said:
I guess you missed this part of ROTJ?
When I was little (mid 80s) my big sister told me that at the end of "Star Wars" Darth Vader crashed somewhere, and had to get a new helmet, and that's why he had the chrome nose and new lenses.
Tyrphanax said:
AntcuFaalb said:
TheBoost said:
The interior of Leia's ship is really bright, with white walls, white smoke, and white armored stormtroopers. This looks cool, but also lets the blaster bolts really stand out.
... and Darth Vader.
Yeah, you're basically blasted by whiteness the whole scene and then suddenly, pow, Darth Vader strides in as this huge contrasting dark presence with the fanfare and you know exactly who the bad guy is.
"Star Wars" is shot so simply, and yet in no way unsophisticated.
Nowadays this sequence would have had lens flares, and high contrast, over exposed lighting, and 3x as many cuts. There would have been a huge rack-focus shot as Vader came through the door in slo-mo.
CWBorne said:
Re-listening to the radio version of ANH. Love the increased characterization and universe building. Makes me wish for the existence of an extended version of the film with the radio scenes there.
I still say I would love a radio version of the PT.
A good writer (RIP Brian Daley) could do wonders with the format and extra time to really make those stories pop. Filoni maybe?
The interior of Leia's ship is really bright, with white walls, white smoke, and white armored stormtroopers. This looks cool, but also lets the blaster bolts really stand out.
For the audio drama I'm working on I'm trying to duplicate the distinct sound of the radio chatter from ANH, especially the Death Star battle (also from the THX 1138 short film).
I have Audacity and Adobe Audition and have been experimenting, but can't seem to get the character of the noise right. Any ideas?
Well, the small plucky ship being overwhelmed by the enormous monolith of the star destroyer pretty much lays out the Rebel/Empire dichotomy.
The white, faceless, inhuman Stormtroopers vs the nervous and human crewmembers, who get closeups to emphasise their humanity.
How far do you define the Opening Scene as going?
SilverWook said:
TheBoost said:
timdiggerm said:
Well, more than that: He killed the Emperor. When you get down to it, the Emperor is the real villain and the real problem that the Alliance are fighting. Vader ended that problem.
He assassinated his boss 5 minutes before he would have died anyway.
If Himmler choked out Hitler in the bunker, I wouldn't name my kid after him.
*cough* Godwin's Law *cough*
In this case I contest. Hitler is not just convienient, he's the ONLY real solid analogy to make. :-P
I think there's only 2 half hour episodes with talking, and I have them both and have seen them tons of times with my lad.
Cute, clever, OT heavy. Fun for kids and grown ups!
timdiggerm said:
Well, more than that: He killed the Emperor. When you get down to it, the Emperor is the real villain and the real problem that the Alliance are fighting. Vader ended that problem.
He assassinated his boss 5 minutes before he would have died anyway.
If Himmler choked out Hitler in the bunker, I wouldn't name my kid after him.
I dont have any baseless accusations or conspiracy theories, I just continue to be perplexed about one this one butthead (twooffour) seems to breed endless discussion about his buttheadness. It confused me then, confuses me now.
xhonzi said:
BLAST! THIS WHOLE POST WAS BASED ON A MISREADING OF 'ROTJ' AS 'ROTS'.
I AGREE WITH TB. I WILL ALSO SET YOU ON FIRE IF YOU THINK E2 WAS BETTER THAN ROTJ.
ORIGINAL POST RESUMES:
TheBoost said:
Anyone who said Ep II was better than ROTJ would get set on fire by me.
This logic works for me, so let's try it out on you.
Let's say I owe you $30 and I plan to pay you back in $10 installments over three weeks.
The first week I cough up $3. Not too bad since I promise to make up for it by pay $14 each of the following weeks. Final score: 3/10. (30%)
The second week, I pay you $4. You have to admit, it's more than last week, but is it 4/10 (40%) or 4/14 (29%)? However, I promise I'll pay you $26 the final week to make up for it.
The third week, I pay you $5. I am forced to admit I have no more money nor intention of paying you the remainder of what I owe you or have promised. Did I pay you 5/10 (50%)? Or did I pay you 5/26 (19%)?
Which week did I pay you the most? Which week did I most fall short? Can it be the same week?
As the middle episode of the prequel trilogy, I have the least amount of requirement for AotC. Is it better than TPM? Yes, I think it is. Does it sufficiently muddy the waters in preparation for a... water... purifying... Episode 3? I think so. However, it was still pretty bad. Meaning that if the Prequel Trilogy as a whole was going to redeem itself, then Episode 3 not only had to be good, but it had to be good enough to ease the debt of Episodes 1 & 2. It wasn't.
I maintain that Episode 3 was better than Episodes 1 and 2, but still fell well short of "good" and way way short of "good enough to ease the debt".
If I was forced to watch one again, and not in the Ridiculously Improved Frink Format, it would probably be AotC. I find it to be the least disappointing, even it's only the second best made.
And a movie that had more than 16 years of hype and waiting that (generally) lived up to the hype: Fellowship of the Ring.
So confused... ... so I don't have to set you on fire, right?
Harmy said:
Oh, no, I really meant his redemption in the eyes of others.
Gotcha.
Yeah, that's (*&^# stupid.
I'd actually like a scene in an EU book where someone is like:
"You're name's Anakin? Like Anakin Skywalker? He totally killed my entire family and the town I came from. What the hell?!"
"Cool. But in the end he didn't let the Emperor kill my uncle, so it's all good. Chill out."
buddy-x-wing said:
Why would Leia and Han name one of their children after one of the most evil men in the galaxy, that tortured both of them on separate occasions and who later turned out to be her biological father, yet Leia didn't think to honour her adopted father and name a child after Bail Organa, the man who raised her from birth and practically started the rebel alliance?
Vader may as well have pushed the button that destroyed her adopted father and entire home planet of Alderaan, but hey ! he came good in the end , decided not to kill his only son and threw the Emperor down a hole, Lets name a kid after him!
Agreed. The idea that Vader would be honored in any way shape or form is honestly unconsciousable.
Yeah, the whole deal with Vader's redemption is a bit stupid when you think about all the evil he's done.
Anyone who said Ep II was better than ROTJ would get set on fire by me.
SilverWook said:
After reading, (in the novel's color insert?) that Jawas are supposed to be really ugly and attract insects, the adorable factor went out the window for me. ;)
Not to mention these "scamps" traffic in stolen and sometimes malfunctioning droids, (you don't want to be around when an astro droid goes rogue) and probably don't pay their Imperial taxes!
But they're so CUTE!
Bingowings said:
I remember being freaked out by the bloody arm in the cantina scene.
But it wasn't as jarring as Anakin rolling on a hot lava beach in the same film trilogy with :
To be fair this
is in the same movie as this.
and these adorable scamps
Not disparage the greatness of ESB, but I think a large factor is when kids who liked the OT grew up, and decided that the bleakness and downer ending automatically equaled more sophistication.
To everyone doing the clean up / restorations... YOU ROCK!
Recently my 3 year old has been sensitive to films with 'bad guys' which I believe refers more to scariness than to antagonistic roles, but hasn't wanted to watch the OT for a while.
So we've taken to watching the LEGO: Star Wars films, "Padawan Menace" and "Empire Strikes Out." He's really into them, and a 3 year olds perspective on what's funny is great.
I'd love to see a bottom-to-top re-edit of the PT, by someone who really really really cares.
Looking at this thread made me realize my NEXT POST is to be 3,000!!
I hope I don't waste it on something stupid.
EDIT:
Crap!
AntcuFaalb said:
What's "A New Hope"?
It sounds like you all are talking about Star Wars...
Its a trendy thing. The 'cool' kids call Star wars "A New Hope" the same way they call 2001: A Space Odyssey "2KSO" or call Apocalypse Now "Porkys." It's a hipster thing.
Tyrphanax said:
Bingo has the right idea here.
First time for everything.
FOR GREAT SLUGGO
This damn thing is back alive.
I'm going to be laid up for a while, so I decided to give this a go solo. I'm pretty pleased with the writing I did and would like to see it realized.
So I'm producing the entire thing on my own, including playing all of the parts. Once I've got a well produced, music, SoundFX and everything "All Boost" cast production of the first three episode arc, I'll get others who can do things like act.
I'd like to use this thread as a sounding board, and ask for the occasional suggestion as I put this thing together.
For example, my long suffering hero needs a catch phrase, something that he says when things go wrong, especially when he already knew it was going to.
Here are various ones I've tried
I'm also looking for a version of the main Star Wars theme (crawl music) that's perfectly good, but slightly different, just enough to make it clear I'm not using the regular main theme... kind of an audio cue that this story might be a bit unusual for Star Wars.
