The Concierge

Bingowings said:

Ok that just smacks my post over on the Wish List thread out of the park, shame really because it was actually beginning to sound useful.

Heh, biological fact strikes again! Don't give up yet, I liked where you were going with that!

The idea to introduce a more sinister side to the Jedi Order also appealed to me... Something to suggest the decadence in their organization and their stubborn adherence to outdated orthodoxy...maybe'd give a bit more credence to Anakin's betrayal. 

First off, thanks for the warm welcome, everyone! Now to business....

Bobocop said:

And responding to the aforementioned ghost idea, I'd still prefer it to stay as the 3 Amigos at the end (Yoda, Anakin, and Obi-Wan.) They're the ones who knew Luke, and it would seem that at that point Luke is the only one who can see them, either by their choice or his ability.

I really can't argue with this, the further complication of adding Padme may just be plain unnecessary. The one thing I think *could* be worked in without much difficulty is a reaction from Leia to the ghosts. Sure, she didn't have much contact with the stranger who was her father (other than unpleasant memories of torture and genocide...), but after the revelation of her familial relation, it might just warrant her getting a noticeable peek.

RoccondilRinon said:

First off, hello and welcome. It's an interesting idea, albeit one I don't see being used in ROTJ:R or any other forthcoming edit at the moment. Most of us aren't complete prequel-haters — the attitude of most of us is that they're not irredeemable, just in need of improvement. Personally, I think George Lucas is fairly good at plotting, and great at worldbuilding and visuals, but he doesn't do dialogue well and he's not great at working with actors. Given that, the prequels are more than salvageable.
From a plot point of view, I frankly don't think Anakin deserves to have his family returned to him. He was the second-baddest guy in the galaxy for over 20 years, and while he did redeem himself in the end, it's at least as important that he was defeated as that he was redeemed. While I don't particularly want to see his force-ghost removed or anything, I don't think his ending needs to be any happier than it already is.

I agree with that whole-heartedly! No, this being a controversial idea to begin with, I never imagined Adywan or anyone else to rushing to fit it into their own personal projects...just throwing it out there! And yes, I also believe much can be salvaged from the prequels, probably more than the average bear, but certainly retooled to have more effect and more (emotional) impact. But, I guess this doesn't belong on this thread!

Anakin not deserving everything to be handed to him on a silver platter after all his atrocities...you certainly have a point. It's hard to say. After bringing balance to the Force, saving his family (for once) and destroying the Sith by sacrificing himself...perhaps he does deserve an extra supernatural treat? But yes, this all might be waaay too sweet and sentimental. You can get sick from that.

Ganamae said:

When and where did you find Star wars: Revisited? and did ya like it?

Ah, I found that absolute gem about 1.5 years ago...this place must have been fundamental to that discovery. And I've been a stalker in the shadows ever since! Yes, SW:R has taken complete precedence over George's special editions...close to perfection!

Bingowings said:

Welcome The Concierge, your idea is interesting I'm not sure how to work it in to ROTJ, could Padme become a Force ghost when Mace couldn't? It could be a dying dream of Anakin but that might get in the way of the pacing of those crucially fast paced scenes.
I'll have a think about how it might be done.

It does put stress on the internal logic of the whole Force ghost idea...but I think dramatically, at least, it makes much more sense to show Padme to the audience again over Mace. Perhaps to reinforce the logic behind her appearance emphasis could be added to key points earlier in the saga (I could only imagine this in AOTC or ROTS) showing Anakin's 'mystical' bond with Padme through the Force...   

Hi everyone! I've been lurking round these parts for quite some time...and I thought I'd share with you an admittedly radical idea I've had for ROTJ, one which *might* not be very well received, as it does take emphasis (and perhaps prominence) away from the original trilogy, but hey, I'll give it a shot! 

This idea hinges on bringing all six movies together into a cohesive unit, utilizing ideas 'established' (yeah, I know...) in the prequels. It's an idea for the finale, which, for all its group-shot photo op charm, has always struck me as a weak conclusion, particularly serving as an end to the entire saga. What may not sit well with many is the fact that, rather than eliminating Hayden from ROTJ, I want to expand on the idea of using this younger incarnation of Anakin's spirit...

Basically my thought is to conclude the story on the image of Anakin and Padme reunited and embraced, with their children present and looking on (both of them!)....Don't boo me off the stage yet! Lemme continue rambling for a bit...This idea stems from (at least my interpretation of) Padme's death in ROTS. The whole 'broken heart' line uttered is really just a (perhaps superfluous) reiteration of 'we don't know'. Padme's life force (forgive me) had become intertwined with that of Anakin, due to his immense power as the Chosen One, and his overwhelming emotional attachment to her. Thus when Anakin 'died', so too did Padme. 

Following through to the end of the proceeding trilogy with this idea of death and resurrection, not to mention the motif of redemption through love, it seems appropriate to me that Padme should also have a manifest resurrected form, and that Anakin be at last allowed to experience true happiness with his family. Luke AND Leia. It always bothered me that Leia doesn't seem to notice her father as Luke does, and this would be a nice conclusion following her conversation she had about her mother. 

Now, I can foresee problems with this. As mentioned, this could take away from the accomplishments of Luke (and the rest of the OT crew). And unless handled delicately, it could turn out completely 'un-star-warsian', and an overload of cheese. Also the fact that many have problems with the characterizations of the prequel characters (myself included), and that instead of being moved by a glimpse of them, it could just leave a bad taste in the mouth. 

I believe I'll end this rambling post now. Tell me what you think, and be gentle! I'm new!