dark_jedi said:
So does it seem like it needs to be a tiny bit brighter? vbangle made the comment it looks dark(if I read it correctly that is)especially in the Cantina.
I thought it was bright enough.. and I do agree that the GOUT is reaching it's limit.
Thanks hairy_hen!
In my honest opinion, the whole Lapti Nek/Jedi Rocks sequence should be taken out entirely. It always has annoyed me. Also, I think that you should start with the Darth Vader on the Death Star sequence (as in the movie), then move to the Yoda dying sequence, and then the Jabba Palace sequence. However, what would really be awesome is if you could find a way to insert the deleted scene from ROTJ that was on youtube and other sites a few months ago. That scene should never have been left on the cutting room floor.
I second Chainsaw Ash's opinion. Though in the future, there may be a scene by scene correction release; the current color correction as shown in the screencaps will make a memorable and significant release.
kane1138 said:
The rough cut is almost up and ready for DL. It is a DIVX file that is 1hr 58mins in length.
It feels a little rough around the edges (and there are a couple of scene transitions to do), but I am happy with what I have done so far.
If you would like the links, please drop me a PM. Thanks.
Hi Kane, I'm really interested in the rough cut for your ROTJ edit and sent you a PM a few days ago. Can you please PM me back?
Like Erikstormtrooper, I'm curious as to whether Hairy Hen's latest 5.1 mix sync to the NTSC DVD5. If put in a program like MuxMan, will a delay need to be programmed in to have the mix sync to the video?
I found that there are multiple Criterion Collection Blade Runner Laserdisc preservations mentioned in this thread. Does anyone still have a copy of any of these or know where to get them? If so, can you pls. shoot me a PM.
Wow! I think this is the best color correction of the GOUT yet. Those lightsabers look especially good. Vader's saber actually looks very red and not pinkish or orange, and Obi-Wan's looks blue and well defined. The subtitles are excellent; the ones in the GOUT always bothered me. Nice work DJ! I think that with this color correction V3 will be perfect!
dark_jedi said:
vbangle said:
DJ could you please show us what your current tweaks look like in a space battle shot, maybe the opening shot with the SD shooting at the Tantive IV, and then maybe a shot of the jawas on Tatooine. If you can.
Absolutely, and PLEASE request other scenes as well if it will help in deciding what to do, scene coming soon, eating some pizza right now.
Oh, can you please post some screenshots of the Darth Vader/Obi-Wan lightsaber duel, especially those where you see the Vader saber in motion?
Ah the more Phantom Menace edits, the merrier. :)
Those ideas sound good Dan. You can probably find someone to help you in making a new crawl. Have you ever thought of a new opening crawl that has the title Revenge of the Jedi? Also, I thought of something. Could you take out all the Ewoks (seriously..I saw this done in a few edits) and replace them with Wookies? You could explain in a new crawl that the Death Star is located near the Wookie planet, then use Wookie footage from the Holiday Special and Revenge of the Sith. If these ideas are crazy and have been discussed before, I apologize.
Nice! Glad to hear the change to "Postponed" Possessed.
I love the tweaks! They make the picture look more natural.
Wow I love your ideas ThiefCobbler4Ever! That would be awesome. Also, has anyone thought of recoloring the blood in Evil Dead II to be blood red? Has someone recolored the Evil Dead II blood in another edit? Not to get too off-topic, but I remember that some time ago I made several edits of Evil Dead: an extended version of the first one, an extended version of the second one, a "horror-cut" of the second one with new blue color timing to make it look like the old Japanese laserdisc of the first movie, and a "horror-cut" of the third movie. Anyway, good luck in making this ripperbrown! I can't wait to see the finished result.
It is unfortunate that this was cancelled. Hope that some day you have another try at it.
Perhaps you're right Dufusyte. It just seems hard to separate what is unrealistic because of artistic direction and because of technical errors. This issue seems to come into play during the restoring of films. Often, it is unsure where to draw the line. After hearing what you said and thinking it over, I'm starting to disagree with my earlier opinion. Perhaps a general setting would be better to ensure that no artistic choices are lost.
On a separate note and forgive me if this has already been brought up but are the 1997 (not 2004) editions a reliable source for color timing. As I understand it, the color timing for the 1997 masters was based on a film print of Star Wars that George Lucas owned and claimed to have the definitive coloring. To my eyes the 1997 ones look the most majestic and colorful. Although, to be truthful, these are the ones that I grew up with, so I might be biased to agree with them. For example, I watched the Reivax edition a few weeks ago and loved the way it looked. It seemed so much better compared to the coloring of the 2004 version and the GOUT.
Oh sorry, I think you misunderstood me. I prefer the color tweaks too and would love to have them on the release. I'm just saying that, in the unlikely case, it makes some scenes look VERY odd, then an "as-is" version should be released instead. Either way I trust your judgment, Dark Jedi.
EDIT: just read my earlier post again and realized that it made it sound like I didn't like the correction. I edited it to make it express my true opinion. Sorry Dark Jedi
I agree with those saying that pressure is needed to keep the lightsaber activated. Like Monroville said, Vader's lightsaber in ROTJ was still on when he through it because he was using the force to hold it. However, I kinda disagree with the heat sensor part and think it's pressure only.
Out of curiosity, Adywan and pardon me if you have already said this. Will you use the same type of color correction used for your AVCHD and the Revisited edit? What will be the source: your AVCHD or the Star Wars Blu-Ray set coming out later this year?
Someone on the forum could probably help you out. I think it is legal as long as you yourself own a copy of the Blu-Ray set. Anyway, using Blu-Ray might be a prudent move. It supposedly has color-correction and some CGI added to improve it's look. That could save you some work.
Siliconmaster482 said:
I'm not sure if you've seen the blu ray release yet, but my god it looks beautiful. Makes every previous release look like it was at 50% brightness, and it even has the cocoon scene inserted at full quality into the movie. If you're still working on this edit, I highly recommend you find a way to use that footage as a base.
I second this opinion. The Blu-Ray makes everything look...fresher.
ChainsawAsh said:
Picture 2 looks great, Harmy. Picture 5 has a bit too much of a yellow cast in the highlights - the silver droid behind Threepio looks gold, and the walls look stained. 4 is too blue.
I really think these need to be color corrected scene-by-scene and not "overall," as it were.
I think I agree with you. The best method would be to color correct scene by scene. There seems to be no general setting that completely improves all scenes. However, Dark Jedi's method seems to come the closest.
dark_jedi said:
So what should I try next? I need some suggestions, I like the above tweaks, at least better than the "as is" version, but I have not looked at other scenes yet either.
I think you that if the color tweaks you are using right now should be used unless they make some scenes look odd, then you should just leave it "as is." It looks good enough already. Either way it'll be a spectacular release.
EDIT: some of my comment was accidentally deleted it before being posted, reinserted "should be used unless they"
TV's Frink said:
You can tell his head is CG...just shameful.
Hahaha so true Frink...so true...
To my eyes, Picture 5 looks the best. It seems like how it would probably have looked in theaters. However, I'm not completely convinced that Picture 2 has the best correction. It looks too green shifted too my eyes. How does the Han picture look like with Picture 5's settings?