TavorX

I am also signing here that I found this episode way more engaging to watch than first episode!
First off, I cannot help but feel the Disney magic with the yadpole. Definitely nailed that adorable plushy element which will hit shelves I bet 😂
Secondly, this episode further cemented in that this character doesn’t have it easy. I was worried it be too much “I’m badass and everything I do will be badass and will barely be an inconvenience” kind of story. So it was welcoming to see the Mandalorian not have a walk in the park.
Thirdly, I was secretly wanting him bring along that guy as a crew member but found that guy’s reasoning for not joining to be heartfelt and understanding. Like wow, you made me care for a character that didn’t have much screen time (Rogue One had in comparison way more time to work with, with their characters and failed to establish any meaningful connections).
Now I’m very much invested to see more. Good so far 👍

I overall have little issue with how Luke in TLJ was portrayed. From my perspective, Luke always had this fear of losing his closet friends whom largely became his family. It’s what prompted him to leave Dagobah and head straight into the Bespin death trap. In ROTJ, he lost his cool whenever Vader mentioned Leia. His core fear is losing anyone tragically and he tends to act irrationally whenever that possibility arises. Therefore, when it came to Ben Solo, and how seemingly one Padawan could ruin the peace he worked so hard to create, he reverted back to his instinctual fear.
You could say he should grow into a wise sage that never succumbs to those kind of emotions but I like to think he held onto those humanly flaws. It would had been very bizarre if he had actually killed Ben, but the good in Luke that is always within him stops that aggression that plagued Vader.

It’s not the Luke many of us wanted to see post-Jedi, but that’s pretty much one of the few RJ choices I could get behind. I still, however, view TLJ as a terrible middle act overall.

Tobar said:

It’s fantastic. I would say the best Star Wars game since Jedi Outcast.

After watching a handful of reviews, it definitely looks like my initial concerns weren’t warranted. Specifically how the demos made it appear to be a very linear cutscene driven game. But, it looks likely to be far from the truth, which gladdens me.

I do have one question out of curiosity, do you ever get other companions that can accompany you along your travels? Or is it only that Droid? Do those featured characters on the ship basically just stay on the ship or do they do other tasks depending where in the story you’re in?

All I recall is that deleted ROTJ scene in the cave where Luke is piecing together his green lightsaber.

“The crystal is the heart of the blade. The heart is the crystal of the Jedi. The Jedi is the crystal of the Force. The Force is the blade of the heart. All are intertwined. The crystal. The blade. The Jedi. You are one.”

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Crystals often have a mystical quality to them, even in real life (not that I subscribe to it personally). In Star Wars, I think it fits just fine for the Jedi to view crystals as a spiritual asset that resides in their weapon of self-defense. Think about it; the crystal is merely an additional instrument in the weapon for the Jedi to further “see” the ripples of the Force around them. It vibrates and resonates within its surroundings, and to a non-Force sensitive, sure they could pick up the weapon and ignite it, but they would not sense the extension of the Force. Yes, Jedi can already feel disturbances in the Force, but perhaps the crystal inside a lightsaber is more like a precise and amplifying instrument when engaged in intense combat. Useful to “see” how and when an opponent will strike, similar to how the hairs on our bodies can detect micro-movements.
To sum up, no, not every Jedi needs a lightsaber. But it’s nonetheless a sacred weapon and useful so long as the wielder is well versed with the Force before hand.

So… Any members playing this? Thoughts?

I really don’t mind having Ian in that shot but what I don’t like is how inconsistently placed it is, in terms of looks. ROTJ’s Emperor looks more slender and sunken in compared to… Puffy ROTS’s Emperor.

JEDIT: I almost forgot Adywan’s edit, as mentioned earlier.

Revenge of the Sith, Mustafar

Anakin: “Maclunkey my master.”

While I do think it’s fair to say that you can’t completely judge a show’s season without seeing each episode, I also think it’s just about equally fair to judge it off of a few episodes. A story with some neat twist or whatever sometimes isn’t worth it if you find other aspects detracting like poorly written characters or basically unable to connect with them. By that point, it will feel like a wasted time investment.

DominicCobb said:

I don’t know how anyone could rank the Mandalorian after only one episode.

Same, like I get a lot are excited (and dissatisfied), but it’s just one episode. Not only are there more episodes coming out, but some of those episodes will be directed by different directors which I’m sure will greatly impact how it unfolds; good or bad, to be determined.

Broom Kid said:

I think it’s just Solo and Mando (and Rebels)

Agreed; most people in the fandom shorthand it Mando.

Smoking Lizard said:

TavorX said:

Point #7 seems weird to gripe about. It would be so plain-jane to dryly say and spell out every plot point all at once. The show had me in the dark most of the time of what the hell was going to happen, in a good way of course.

Because it’s corny? Contrived? Stilted? Not a logical way for people to behave?

…uhh so tell the bounty hunter all the details, and on the off chance he gets captured/interrogated, someone else not beholden to original contract could bargen with that Imperial dude for stipulations he didn’t want to be a part of.

Or given the lack of trust between these two individuals, there’s a chance the bounty hunter could bail out on the mission and decide to sell/leak the information, forfeiting the chance to claim the yadpole.

Yeah it seems like the overall consensus is that it did neither anything terribly offending or anything moving.

Point #7 seems weird to gripe about. It would be so plain-jane to dryly say and spell out every plot point all at once. The show had me in the dark most of the time of what the hell was going to happen, in a good way of course.

Also, I found it interesting that no mentions, to my memory, of any planets were displayed/said.

DominicCobb said:

LexX said:

• the bounty said twice “oh my God”, someone screwed up big time to let this pass through

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/God

Not to mention Han’s “See you in Hell!” line from ESB.

Makes you think though, that thing has been in some infant stage for 50 years! Imagine the parents that has to care for it under normal circumstances. No wonder there’s not many of these running around 😂

“You said I was the Chosen One!”

“Wrong you are, another one there is, when you and Padme had baby.”

I’ll just toss in having TLJ’s timeline starting immediately after TFA was a big mistake. Feels like Mockingjay or Deathly Hallows split up into two movies. Every film has a lengthy amount of time passed between each one. The point is to have characters grow and change, or at least see significant development from the last movie. Everyone basically feels the same from TFA to TLJ.

I think it was an alright start. Felt paradoxically like and not like Star Wars. Music could be part of it, which ironically, I think it’s probably best it doesn’t try to leech off John Williams scoring. Let it be its own thing. It threw quite a few terms/people’s names I didn’t know, which is refreshing because it’s not a reference-fest.

Has potential I’d say. We’ll see.

I don’t think that’s a new canon thing. The KOTOR games have that mechanic where certain Crystals allow for different Force related boosts. I remember from the second game that there’s a specific crystal that belongs specifically to you.
Star Wars Galaxies also featured unique crystals tied to specific Jedi that allowed you to have special traits/abilities once you “tuned” your character to it.
Those are only examples I know of, but I imagine that concept had to be explored in other Pre-Disney SW lore besides the ones I listed.

I may not fully see eye to eye with Dre’s points, but do agree to some level that the direction of the ST is lacking… an artistic soul? I think that’s what Dre is getting at. There’s a ton of people at helm of the ST, wearing and carrying the Star Wars mantle but for almost different reasons than originally intended pre-Disney acquisition. TFA may had been, an arguably, solid opening for the ST, more so than how the PT started with TPM. But, after TLJ and a few side stories, it feels like a game of throwing darts on the idea board with buzzwords of iconic OT characters/stories. As a result, it’s a matter of using these ideas/concepts to draw people in on the surface, but very little to take away from.
What I mean is, there’s some level of resonance when you see Luke stare into the binary sunset, feeling the internal guilt of wanting more than being a desert farm boy but not wanting to let down his uncle and aunt. TFA captured a tiny bit of this similar aspect with Rey, but the following movie, I think, just squanders it all into some weird kind of mess due to a result of rushing into meeting deadlines.
But to take a step further back, despite how magically Star Wars began, it’s not like Lucas is some masterful “artist.” He took many ideas from other sources and put them together in a very creative and successful way. That is admirable. But the success of Star Wars was more so the other people involved. It was a different time, a time where they had to prove the story was worth its salt.
Nowadays, everyone knows the value of it. The true loss of an artistic soul happened when we have the higher ups trying to keep Star Wars relevant. All the tools are available, which is totally different from when LucasFilm had to work its way from the ground up.

So… you make them somewhat better to look at?
The look of the OT is only a fraction of what makes its “style.” Not everything has horrid CGI effects, and even then, doesn’t fix underlying issues of the PT. Just be a time waster for what you’re looking for. Better off just making your own fan PT trilogy if you put that much effort into it.

Waiting for price drops for a video game is a general good rule of thumb. Waited two years until I got Battlefront II for like under $5 I think.

Darth Hade said:
But I don’t see how Palpatine being back can even be a question at this point as he clearly has his body in the trailer at the 54 second mark and the 1 minute; 58 second mark.

Maybe I’m just wearing a helmet with my blast shield down, but where is his body at the 54 sec mark? I only see his throne.

Regarding the general Palpatine talk, I also think RogueLeader’s take on why there’s more, supposed, physical shots of Palpatine makes sense.

But I still don’t think there’s concrete solidification that he is returning in the flesh, for the present timeline of events that will happen in the film. Sure yes there is… what we assume to be him floating with Rey nearby, but we all know what trickery these trailers can show. We assume it’s Palpatine… but if it really was, and the trailer knows that we know… wouldn’t the trailer show his face? Instead, we’re being shown a small angle of some dark hooded figure. Must be hiding something less obvious than what we think who it is, maybe.

And who knows, maybe they did shoot more scenes with Ian. It could be flashback kind of story stuff; that Sithy throne could be from ancient times. It couldn’t be on Endor or the destroyed ruins of the Death Star II, or any other random Imperial ship. I mean, it could… but it looks less likely to be tied to any of those locations. More so, like I said, attached to a flashback/back story to Palpatine/Sith stuff, y’know?

I’ve already lightly read into supposed leaks, and assuming they’re right, yeah it doesn’t really do it for me. Still, I’ve not the slightest clue what direction this movie is going. I want to believe LucasFilm wants to give this ST a solid, satisfying ending. And part of me is irked by the feeling that maybe it’s going to be a half-assed effort. It will be an effort nonetheless, but not a great one.
As much as I liked TLJ for specific parts here and there, I’m still disappointed in it as a middle act. I don’t think Rian really gave much thought into how the next director could further the story. And so then we’re left with whatever leftovers available to forge… Well whatever those leaks are saying.

Well, I’ve never heard of Space Movie 9: The Risening so it sounds like they really need to have a “media push”

Hopefully it fairs well against Rise of the Skywalker, but I don’t know, that’s gonna be a tough movie to compete with in December holiday season!