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Kinda confused by the article but essentially, certain directors didn’t get to direct simply because they weren’t part of the round table discussion during TFA’s drafting process and beyond? Does that mean Rian Johnson was part of those meetings? And if they wanted different directors, why is J.J. back other than being easy to work with?

Rise of Skywalker still weirds me out as a title of a movie that’s going to be the last film in the Skywalker saga. Sounds more like a beginning. Anakin Skywalker fell in the prequels, Luke Skywalker rose to Jedi Knight in the originals. Leia is the only Skywalker left in the film, at least in the flesh, along with Ben. But by this point, the Skywalkers have already risen to some form of high status in their respective fields. What more does this bloodline have to rise to and from?

No no, TLJ already introduced that with shirtless Ben Swolo. Far from perfecting it, but perhaps fully operational in TROS.

oojason said:

‘The Rise of Skywalker Will Introduce New Force Powers’:-

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/12/rise-of-skywalker-new-force-powers
 

In regards to “new” Force powers, I wonder if it’s implied new as in never seen in the films before, or new as in never seen in the films and the EU?
I can almost picture Rey using Battle Meditation during the climatic final act. The heroes feel like they’re losing, but Rey is able to give everyone a spiritual advantage that elevates them to victory. Seems far fetched.
Somewhat confused by the article because it’s saying Rey leaping with the Force is supposed to be new… but even Obi-Wan leapt with the Force to slice Maul in half, so…

I’d argue that I don’t mind the overall concept of the Jedi. They are uniquely separate from any typical soldier. The trials and tribulations involved would make most people pause and wonder why anyone would carry such title. It heightens an image in the public’s mind of how kooky and insane these Force sensitive people are. Admired by some even. But more importantly, an easy target for a tyrannical reigme to throw under the bus.
However, I do agree to some degree that the no relationship mantra is a bit absurd. The Prequel Trilogy would had done right to make it clear that instead, no romantic relationships until you’re well into your Jedi career. Still kooky, but just enough kookiness.

I predict it will make lots of monies.

Imagine how much impactful if it were revealed that all along, Rey was indeed a nobody. Hm, but we already understood this in TLJ, you say. Yes, but in a ‘shocking twist’, it turns out Rey felt that “awakening” of the Force, reverberating from Luke like a unconscious cry for help. Faint, but strong enough for the isolated Rey on Jakku to have some unknown divine energy compel her on a journey. Luke didn’t really intend to call-out to anyone nor expect anyone to answer his SOS. But yet the Force weaved together a string of interactions. Destiny.
Rey comes to a new understanding. She doesn’t need to come from some royal bloodline. Her parents didn’t need to be big names in the galaxy. She herself can be something from nothing. All her psychological misgivings from earlier was a reaction to not believing she had any value due to how she grew up and the story/myths surrounding the epic tales of the past.
Palpatine simply having any familiar ties sounds like something brought out of left field. If it was perhaps hinted at here and there in any of the past two films, it wouldn’t so damn weird. Plus, there’s even less buildup of any satisfaction of Rey confronting Palpatine like there is going from Luke confronting Vader. Nothing personal about it. Rey’s fear was being alone in the galaxy, not knowing her parents. Nowhere in these films was she afraid of Palpatine.

“No. There is another.”

Ironically, if a “strong female agenda” was a strong initiative, I fail to see it beyond TFA. Luke somehow manages to have more of an “arc” in TLJ than Rey did. Rose seems more fixated on Finn, romantically, than carrying on the legacy of her dead sister. Leia is just kinda there, and Luke is the one that inspires hope/gives reassurance.
There’s Holdo but she’s… Not developed and really the only character that felt like a half-baked attempt at the finger-wagging feminist.
The only thing the new films end up doing is giving these female characters weapons/fighting skills in order to serve lip-service that women can throw punches, but without much emotional substance. Less proactive and more… Reyactive in their respective stories.

On top of that, I’m not sure what to expect besides a mere story about Rey resisting the darkside to defeat Palpatine. Wooo…?

That was the perfect blend of the PT/OT/ST. So beautiful.

He edited the post right under the OP with the updated trailer.
Dooku looks rough… But I can dig the concept, good effort so far 👍

TheAlaskanSandman said:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1uZu99WTujGLN8WBqNveHUk0v-OUIbfOA

Ep I Revised Trailer so far.

Out of mild curiosity, I looked up “Despecialized Edition” on Etsy. Just the one entry - one too many, still.

I pretty much agree everything stated above, even down to the Terminator observation.
I believe the mistake made was the film’s direction after Alien. They kept trying to replicate the story formula for two following sequels. How many times do we have to get Ripley stuck in some situation, having to coordinate how to snuff out the Xenomorphs (usually the same plan), where one by one, each character gets killed, surprise-surprise.
It would had benefitted the franchise to focus on The Company, and what their deal is. I guess the modern spin-offs tried to do this, though to sub-par standards. Or let Alien exist as one contained film.

I think the episodes are paced fairly well. It’s slow enough for me. Don’t have issue with the action, as it’s miles better than the fast pumping action in the ST. I’m appreciating the quieter moments between characters.

The only nitpick I have is avoid usage of the word “angel.” Yeah, TPM had that one line, but it has a different connotation within Star Wars now. Could modify it to say “Luke’s former student” or “fallen Jedi” or similar.

Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker Featurete

https://youtu.be/CJhKQeblpYk

That beginning blooper, has that ever been shown to the public?

Star Wars still had many story threads left to tell, which to the success of Empire Strikes Back, did arguably well to expand upon those story threads. Luke wanted to learn the ways of the Force, to follow in the footsteps of his father. Sure, Luke uses the Force to guide himself successfully to the destruction of the Death Star. However, we’re still left unclear what the Jedi are and what legacy Luke’s father truly had. Han Solo still has a bounty on his head. The Empire, which is responsible for the eradication of Jedi, surely doesn’t dissolve simply because a super weapon is destroyed. The Emperor apparently still has influence in the political sphere of the universe. You can infer the Empire has vast resources and reach to even construct the Death Star in the first place.
No doubt, there is a happy ending, and it is pretty much self-contained, but it doesn’t mean Lucas didn’t leave potential story threads open, pending financial success. It’s not really a fair comparison to draw between Star Wars::Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi::Force Awakens. Primarily, the issue is not that the Force Awakens takes away from the ending of Return of the Jedi, but merely is banking off the success, beat for beat of Star Wars. We’ve already seen it. In what ways does Empire Strikes Back copy the story beats of Star Wars? And before I’m accused of slamming the ST, it is pretty well-documented in this community how much Return of the Jedi is criticized for recycling story points, so obviously, even the OT isn’t quite immune to this ridicule.

Dang I was hoping for a plush doll. My girlfriend expressed interest in one… Totally just her and not me… 😉

“Blast! I hate flying!”

The real reason to kill Snoke was all because Kylo wanted jet troopers. Too expensive for the First Order’s budget since they were paying off the debt owed for Snoke’s robe selection made from exotic minerals.

I personally, as well, don’t think it’s a necessary thing but perhaps you could have it where you simply hear Jabba talking over that communication device. Save the actual appearance for ROTJ.

Okay I vaguely remember that new Canon of Boba Fett ≠ Mandalorian, thanks RogueLeader.
And yes I can get behind those explanations. I kept wondering why would the Empire be so antagonistic against Mandalorians. Then I recall that, and although not all parts of the KOTOR era are canon, the Mandalorians did spearhead a campaign against the old Republic with devastating consequences. So in my mind, the Empire couldn’t risk any internal or external influence that could have sparked the Mandalorians’ interest in starting another war.

So this episode also hinted at that the New Republic is a joke, more or less.
Very satisfying to see him return to get back the baby. I love the little touches of visual story telling; the part where he’s thinking about the baby messing with that orb and then deciding to do the right thing, bravo!
Somewhat confused as well when it comes to the Mandalorian society. Who’s out to get them if the Empire is gone? Why was Boba Fett associated with the Empire? Boba just a special exception and proceeded to kill other Mandolorians? (Never caught up with Rebels)

RogueLeader said:

but maybe making Poe (and the audience) feel like something is off about Holdo is the point

The first time I saw it, I totally thought she was a FO spy.

Personally, changing the hair color is neither offending or deemed necessary of an edit, but merely just extra busy work. It’s somewhat similar to say, what if we changed Jar Jar’s eye color? Does it really improve the experience? Maybe a little. It’s different. However, fundamentally, the real issue is simply the story inclusion of such character. Not so much the looks and appearance that is the issue, but the way such character was handled in the film. In which case, whether it’s Jar Jar or Holdo, both instances would benefit the movie if their presence was entirely removed, reduced, or rewritten, the latter being more of a challenge, given the already little screen time Holdo has and yet inherently involved with the story progressing and character interactions.
of course, I understand it’s all personal taste and up to each fan editor to modify what they wish, it’s all harmless expression.
I believe there’s many discussion over how to have someone else sacrifice or control the ship to kamikaze. I had the ‘radical’ idea to have Kylo Ren cause the ship to crash into the Supremacy. As he uses his hand to twitch the lightsaber towards Snoke, a quick cut shows the Resistance ship turning at the same time. When Snoke says, “…KILLS HIS TRUE ENEMY!” his gasp reaction coincides with the hyperspace attack. This poses some issues, no doubt, as it would be difficult to transition into how Rey and Kylo interact later, but at least the throne room would had already have looked like it got damaged by the hyperspace jump attack, fire and embers all around. I just think it fits in line with Kylo wanting to start anew with the First Order, to scrub the past and forge something different under his banner, hence him being responsible for killing Snoke and taking out a huge chunk of First Order.

That TV spot reminded me that I’m actually looking forward to Rey vs Kylo for one of the main highlights of the film. At least to see an evolution from the jab and stab duel in TFA to a more focused duel between them.