NeverarGreat said:
It could have worked - if Khan's second in command was revived instead of Khan. He looks a lot like Cumberbatch!
Wow. I never made that connection. SWEET!
OneCentSky said:
Do you think that JJ Abrams will see the prequels as important continuity? Do you think he'll abandon the prequels to have a fresher start? I think it would be okay if he kept the basic backstory of episodes 1-3. But I think Abrams should abandon the midi-chlorians forever. What do you think?
Nothing from the prequels strictly has to be acknowledged in the sequel films. Usually it's the lazier of EU stories that attempt to put PT stuff with the OT characters. They don't have to be written off as non-canon, but they don't technically need to be followed, especially if they do end up doing an original story.
The occasional allusion to past events is probably a given, though.
Reegar said:
I would have gone and seen "Into Darkness", but Khan's casting was so bizarre as to dissuade me.
I didn't figure he was Khan, and was honestly a little disappointed when it turned out he was.
Let's face it. Star Wars is the ultimate marketer's dream. There's such a fan base that anything can be released and there's a guarantee that someone will buy it.
And of course they know it.
Rather short list:
- Obi-Wan. Ewan McGregor was a great choice for casting, and he's one of the only good actors in the films.
-Good Villan Concepts. While the actual characterization of these guys leaves a bit to be desired, the concepts alone for most of them are enjoyable enough.
-The Effects of TPM. I actually think the sets and effects of this film are better than the other two, if only because they look more realistic.
-Certain parts of the score I find good, but to be honest most of it I find rather bland.
-Attempt at emotion in ROTS
-The whole Palpatine plot is rather well done.
That's about it. I'll let you know if I missed anything.
So, how are you planning on doing all of this exactly? Cause it's sounding like you're going through some pretty radical edits. BTW, you might want to just invest in in the official DVD's. They're not expensive, if you know where to go.
Did this happen? This needs to happen. SOMEBODY MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!!
Someone claims to have once seen a mix which gave her a thick British accent, ergo the voice of the original actress.
Yeah, I call BS too.
Deja-vu, man!
Trust me, I have a few.
I actually fell asleep during my first showing of ESB (take it easy, it was 9:00 and I was 4 years old), so I missed out on a lot of stuff. My dad was VERY interested in the '04 DVD set when it came out. So, I occasionally found him watching both the Bonus Disc and ESB, and I caught a few clips out of context. The main one was in EOD, and showed what I thought was Luke's death. It was just him screaming "No" after the big revelation, but my young mind took it differently.
TPM was one where I also fell asleep, but I did wake up, a couple times. One of the times, I was legitimately frightened by the terrifying Yoda puppet. The second time, I woke up to the lightsaber battle. I was still dazed, so the events of the final battle played differently in my head. I thought that Obi-Wan had used his own lightsaber to cut down Darth Maul, and my mind filled in the gaps by creating a few shots of his lightsaber falling, and then falling the opposite way. It was flawless, until I watched it again. Oops.
Oh, and you wouldn't believe what I thought Biggs and Luke said to each other at the end of the hanger scene.
Strange, I actually had a similar idea for the early parts of the film opening with a bombing, and Lando and 3P0 being lost in it. Nothing else was the same, but, still...
:)
adywan said:
Here is the complete list of all the audio and video that can be found of the ebooks. Some real treasures in there:
http://starwarsblog.starwars.com/index.php/2013/10/21/exclusive-ebooks-videoaudio%E2%80%94complete-contents-revealed/
I. MUST. GET. THIS!!!
^That's the exact sort of issue we're hoping to address in this thread.
^This.
AntcuFaalb said:
imperialscum said:
I would actually not change anything.
Same here, except...
I would revert the title to "Revenge of the Jedi".
And that's great! I'm not at all saying it's a bad move (on the contrary, it's quite good), it's just I feel that there's some things that (I and some others think) could've been done better. That's what this thread's all about.
Reegar said:
Tack
If anyone has any other suggestions for possible changes, please, let's combine a list of what we'd want to see.
Let's. Unlikely that a straight democracy would work here, though, depending on who's permitted to contribute. If it's two people, that's fine. Any more, and we could sit here for the next decade arguing the list. You should be the deciding factor.
BTW, you're not a heretic if you're just wanting to explore some other possibilities.
Good to know! :)
I'm for the recombination, but I'm not sure if I should be moderator. No one should leave a boy of thirteen to decide the fates of the Star Warriors!
Oh, nothing. I overreacted to this fact about Lucas rejecting hundreds upon hundreds of effects shots from ILM.
Just thought I'd put this out there. I was looking forward to this show, until the Inquisitor was revealed.
so u donut liek bad gramer an speling u cey?
Good luck on finishing both the book and the fic. Both I'm quite interested in!
In regards to multiple continuities, just be glad you don't write for any comic series!
Sorry I haven't commented. This is quite good! It seems like the beginning of a very good novel. I am confused on one thing though, are you undoing Vader as Luke's father? It kind of seems like you are.
Well, sure the actual PLOT outline is the same, but the details will be very different. There's only so much you can say in a list. I'll try to communicate my thoughts here as best I can.
I want there to be a new subplot with Luke having a recurring nightmare (the result of Vader attempting to get into his head), and I want his face to be scarred to hell from his last encounter. He'll, like I said, be an outcast from the group until the very end. Also, he has, again, used this time to train with Yoda, as you mention in the story. Luke's first scene should be him carrying out a successful version of the cave scene, to show growth.
The slaves I added because I realized that there was a humanity aspect missing if it were simply to be rebels vs empire. I figured they could be a mix of various humanoid races from various worlds, and could supply information to the alliance about interiors of various settlements. Also, the film needed some sort of pulse-pounder before the 3rd act.
I figured Lando would be feeling really bad about the events of the last movie, and constantly trying to regain trust from Han, who would be unreceptive to his attempts. Maybe just as simple as a role-reversal for the sail-barge battle, making it so that Lando saves Han. In any event, trust would be restored by the time the battle was underway, and Lando would get control of the Falcon for the air-strike. On 2 conditions. 1. Not even the tiniest of scratches. 2. Chewie must come with. Of course, he ends up breaking the first one.
Vader and the Emperor should be on more untrustworthy terms. Vader is constantly going against orders. And the Emperor is aware of his secret plan to upheave him and take power for himself. Luke merely provides a catalyst for both of them to take each other out.
I want the Death Star II not to be destroyed. 1. it's a change of pace. We've had the bunker scene before and it's too run of the mill for Star Wars. 2. It's a more effective and Jedi-like solution to end the fighting. Maybe it could be destroyed as soon as its passengers have been taken off, as more of a symbol of the Empire's dissolution than anything else.
Ben and Luke's final conversation should dwell more on the fact of Luke's history, leading to the revelation that his sister and he were seperated long ago. Luke shares a similar conversation with Han and Leia (Leia mentions something along the lines of "they're considering it" in regards to their participation in gov't) The film ends with Luke leaving the city planet (yes I will keep calling it that), credits. It's both a more conclusive and more open-ended ending, in classic Star Wars sense.
If anyone has any other suggestions for possible changes, please, let's combine a list of what we'd want to see.
BTW, you're not a heretic if you're just wanting to explore some other possibilities.
timdiggerm said:
muddyknees2000 said:
It's rough, but here you go:
I was thinking about this, and perhaps Threepio could state that Han, Luke, Chewie & Leia (oh and Artoo) are to be a sacrifice/offering to some kind of grey beast: the AT-AT
That would be amazing! If it was the Ewoks' own idea, it would the perfect combination of humor, shock, and suspense. You're a genius!!
Here's my attempt at a plot outline, scene by scene.
It could use work, but you get the gist.
If I could, I'd attempt to do one with a count of 50,000-100,000. I'd even put it in script format, if I could manage it.
I do need good dialogue. I actually attempted to spitball my version of the ending here once, but gave up once I had to get to a point where a character would speak. I don't exactly consider myself the best authority on how these characters would react or speak, especially in the new circumstances they're presented with. Maybe I'll test my skills, and try it out on you, or something. *shrugs*
