This user has been banned.
Goodbye, maybe.
What is going on?
Read the whole forum and you can figure it out now.
Do you really how long that would take? I mean even if limited it to threads in recent use it would take a while.
I’ll wait.
Well you’ll be waiting a long, long, time.
I won’t be actively waiting.
Ah practicing to take over my role here when I’m gone I see.
get checked for mad cow
So like an angry one?
wait i thought this was the media section
That’s a hot take for on topic. Kinda Hot Topic.
Goodbye, maybe.
What is going on?
Read the whole forum and you can figure it out now.
Do you really how long that would take? I mean even if limited it to threads in recent use it would take a while.
I’ll wait.
Pretty pointless now.
We’ve been telling him that for years but he keeps doing it anyway. And then tells us he did it.
This thread should probably be in Culture.
Maybe he can bring you home?
DrDre said:
I agree. The PT ends where the OT begins, right down to the twin sunset on Tatooine. Going from ROTJ to TFA is far more jarring to me, where an obvious total victory is suddenly and without explanation completely reversed, while all the victors have become shadows of their former selves. General Solo has again become a smuggler in debt with everyone, who hides from his problems. Luke’s hiding from his problems on a rock, and has closed himself off from the Force. Even Leia has been demoted from princess, and senator to the general of an even smaller band of rebels, whilst Han and Leia have apparently won the worst parents of the year award.This is my main issue with the ST. Despite the fact that they’re very good films, the story is just so nonsensical to me. What we’re told happened between VI and VII is far more interesting to me than what’s happening in VII and VIII. We’re right back where we started in the OT (if not worse, the rebels are down to a handful of folk on the falcon), with no real explanation as to how we got there after the triumphant victory in VI.
I would have much more enjoyed a story of how Ben got seduced by Snoke, how the First Order came to be, etc.
I can understand not liking what you got but how is that “nonsensical?”
Lol I see what happened there.
Goodbye, maybe.
What is going on?
Read the whole forum and you can figure it out now.
Any comparisons to Gamergate are accurate insofar as the harrasers are concerned (though I haven’t seen these comparisons from LFL employees).
https://twitter.com/rianjohnson/status/1016392684242550784
GamerGate: another great example of using a minority of harassers to paint an entire community with that wide brush and obscure the original criticisms.
Okay, well was I wrong? I’m not seeing the part in that tweet where he says that anyone who hates his movie is a Gamergate level harraser. He’s pretty spot on in the comparison.
Did you read the preceding tweet that he was responding to? It was about ComicsGate, another supposedly hate-driven campaign that’s being used to paint many comics fans with the same brush as GamerGate, with the usual shitstirring by the usual frauds looking for attention/money like Quinn and Sarkeesian.
Maybe he’s not doing it intentionally, but by drawing the comparisons to what’s going on with Star Wars, I find it hard to believe he doesn’t know who and what he’s inviting into the discussion.
You of course have a typically cynical take on these “gates” that I have no desire to get into you with. Putting that aside, whatever you think of the people bring attacked, there is no reason whatsoever to violently harass. And it’s beyond absurd to suggest that one shouldn’t call out violent harassment just for fear that someone else entirely might come in and paint all criticism with a broad brush. I’m sorry I have more sympathy with those getting death threats than those merely getting supposedly generalized. I don’t know why Rian should have to top toe and ignore the issue completely just because of how other people may or may not respond.
Of course no one should violently harass someone else. Duh.
My point is that the result so far in these “gate” stories is that the harassment becomes the story, the broader fanbase is guilty by association (“toxic fandom”), and the original story that kicked everything off is conveniently forgotten or labeled as conspiracy, while the participants supposedly on the side of social justice go on to build massive social media followings and make money from the whole affair.
Rian can bash harassers all he wants, but drawing comparisons to GamerGate and ComicsGate is going to result in the same shitty mess. I don’t want a JediGate.
The original story that compelled me to kick this thread off was the treatment of Kelly Marie Tran , and lets not hurl insults at people such as “duh” and "panties in a bunch " aye ? seems unbecoming of a moderator imho.
It’s doubly unbecoming of the site owner imo.
I once talked to someone who said that their least favorite Star Wars movie was Empire because it was ‘really boring’.
Their favorite was RotS.
Well at least they’re consistent…?
bunched panties
Jeez man.
Seems like an insult to dads and our jokes.
So light and fun politics? Ok. Probably should clarify that in your thread so we all know.
Any comparisons to Gamergate are accurate insofar as the harrasers are concerned (though I haven’t seen these comparisons from LFL employees).
https://twitter.com/rianjohnson/status/1016392684242550784
GamerGate: another great example of using a minority of harassers to paint an entire community with that wide brush and obscure the original criticisms.
Jay I know you’ve left the politics thread but you were doing this in regards to liberals all the time.
I’d appreciate a more detailed analysis of how my criticism of liberals in general is comparable to the allegations leveled against the gaming community in GamerGate.
That seems like a detailed waste of time.
It’s an opinion. I paused, then went about my business. More people should do the same.
“More people should do the same” is also an opinion.
not a hot take pal
Putting the PT above any post-PT movie is indeed a hot take, but even if that’s debatable, putting AOTC above any post-PT movie is a red-hot take.
I debated it.
And yet you decided to post it here, so may I ask what is supposed to go there and what is supposed to go here?
Do you know?
I don’t.
i think it’s because people tried really hard to like it at first. i know i did, and it’s now my least favorite star wars film by a country mile.
Attack of the Clones? It’s worse than Attack of the Clones!?
I don’t like TFA and even I paused for a second at that.
Again, there’s plenty of these kinds of hot takes right here. Check out the ranking thread some time.
Any comparisons to Gamergate are accurate insofar as the harrasers are concerned (though I haven’t seen these comparisons from LFL employees).
https://twitter.com/rianjohnson/status/1016392684242550784
GamerGate: another great example of using a minority of harassers to paint an entire community with that wide brush and obscure the original criticisms.
Jay I know you’ve left the politics thread but you were doing this in regards to liberals all the time.
(caveat - have not read the tweet)
Not what I meant but thanks.
pardon?
Maybe, but what’s the point?
Goodbye, maybe.
TFA receives an overwhelmingly positive response from fans and everything is cool.
Are you new here?