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Adywan,

Loved the txt commentary on ANH:R, it's informative and you can still watch the movie. But, last night I heard that radio interview you did a while ago. It was very entertaining stuff, which had me wishing that you'll also do an audio commentary for ESB:R.

Will you be doing this?

Yes! "Take My Breath Away" Top Gun soundtrack as he walks up to Padme outside the senate.

oh_riginal said:

And the shot of Lloyd Bridges screaming "they're coming right at us!" And jumping out the window, just before Grievous's ship hits the tower.

Please oh please add in one of Bridges' "Looks like I picked the wrong day to give up smoking crack" lines.

I don't mean "Great!" as in, 'Great Britain' or 'Alfred The Great' or 'The Great Train Robbery'...

...I mean more, "That was a great sandwich" lol

DuracellEnergizer said:

 

SilverWook said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Ooh! For those in the UK, "Shattered Glass" is on iPlayer.

Wanted to see this for ages, as it's the only other major role Hayden Christensen ever got. Must have been hard for a new young actor to star in two of the last decades' biggest films, then the phone never rings again (Feel bad for him).

Heard he was outstanding in it... let's find out.

*cough* Awake (2008) *cough*

I remember that movie. Hayden was actually pretty decent in that one - he only gave one line of dialogue I found cringeworthy. The plot kinda floundered halfway through the movie, though, and the supernatural aspect to the plot felt shoehorned in.

 

Yes as you've all pointed out ^ I was talking sh*t, he's done a few films since. But my general point is still true, Hayden career hasn't been exactly on fire.

I'm sure he's a great actor, but Lucas is a bad director of actors (At least of late). Portman, McGregor, Jackson and even Neeson all give career low performances in the PT. But unlike those guys, with Hayden you couldn't point to 'Leon', 'Trainspotting', 'Pulp Fiction' and 'Schindler's List' to prove it.

none said:

Star Wars - Retarded Version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3kz-d-Gfe0

Only the Danish could come up with something as freaky as that^

It's like some evidence tape that you'd see Sarah Lund watching in The Killing.

Ooh! For those in the UK, "Shattered Glass" is on iPlayer.

Wanted to see this for ages, as it's the only other major role Hayden Christensen ever got. Must have been hard for a new young actor to star in two of the last decades' biggest films, then the phone never rings again (Feel bad for him).

Heard he was outstanding in it... let's find out.

Hey, it's me. said:

Goldeneye was fantastic. Developer RARE did some great games. 

I know. When watching those pre-fight breakdown's that robert Downey Jr imagines in Sherlock Holmes, it always reminds me of the kind of mental preperation I had to do to beat Goldeneye on 007 difficulty. During the loading screen I'd be planning my first seconds of action...

"Attract knife with watch... equip knife... guard opens door... throw knife at first guard... catch guard's falling AK-47... throw knife at 2nd guard before he can open fire... release girl from 2nd cell... open door... throw knife at 3rd guard... round corner... etc"

You would have to have the whole level thought through like that. I lost weeks to that game... in a good way.

haraldo23 said:

Best. Game. Ever. Even outside of Star Wars. The only video game that I still proudly own and play about once a year. And it's the sole reason why I'm glad the prequels were made (... kind of) - they spawned this entertainment masterpiece.

Did you ever play..

- Cannon Fodder on the Amiga 500+

- Frogger on the Dragon 32

- Turrican II on the Commodore 64

- Prince of Persia on the IBM PS1

- Goldeneye on the N64

- Blade Runner on a Windows 95 PC

- Dues Ex: Human Revolution on the PS3

...to name but a few. But a general rule would be if it was on the Amiga or the N64 it was probably brilliant!

georgec said:

'94-'99. Peak of SW fandom in my book. Great EU, great games, and no prequels.

also in the same bracket...

1994–1998 = Babylon 5

1994-1999 = ST: DS9

The whole of the '90s infact was a golden era for Sci-Fi TV, films, games etc. I literally cried at the end of B5's last episode.

But the next day I probably thought, never mind there's a new SW film in 6 months!

:-(

DF Shadow said:

I know a few pages back we were discussing the Leia interrogation scene and I think AdY was going to alter the device again?

That gave me an excuse to post this image I stumbled across...

 

 

Maybe a bit much?

 

; )

"THE REBEL BASE IS ON YAVIN... THE REBEL BASE IS ON YAVIN!!!!"

EyeShotFirst said:

Composting real models into a film digitally gives much more amazing results than the composting of 30 years ago. I like how Ady is giving us a good mix of CGI, models, and what was there already. You still feel like you're watching Star Wars, it's just more refreshing.

I never knocked the Special Editions for making changes, it's the fact that they slapped in crap, and ignore some of the more important things that needed fixing. Ady is doing these things, and he isn't sticking in shit, just because he can.The films are maintaining their integrity.

 

Would be kinda fun to do a "Special Edition" ROTS fanedit just for Lucas and mail it to him.

You could add in Ewoks line dancing across the screen when Anakin is pledging himself to Palpatine,

or,

add in General Grievous firing first at Obi-Wan.

or,

add Jar-Jar into the back of Padme's death scene going "Youssa gonna die?"

Maybe then he'd get why we all have a problem with this kind of vandalism of the OT.

Practical FX all the way for me with CGI for seemless compositing and the big crowd/epic stuff.

I love the often simple yet seemingly magician like techniques used for practical FX. A great demonstration of this is checking out the Commentary on the BR of Francis Ford Coppola's 'Dracula'.  He reveals that he had to fire the original FX team as they were insisted that he needed to use CGI to accomplish the shots Coppola wanted.  So Coppola just put his son in charge and they used strictly near-silent-era in-camera trickery to do all the FX.  They didn't even resort to optical compositing never mind digital compositing!

I remember seeing the film in 1992 and thinking they were some of the best FX I'd ever seen so I couldn't believe how simply they were achieved when I heard the commentary.  I think today if a Director wanted a rat running upside down on the ceiling they'd just reach staright for the CGI. But in Dracula they filmed Dracula with the top half of the negative matted, then just flipped it over, rewound the film, matted the bottom and then filmed the rat, genius.

'Jurassic Park' was in production at around the same time, which would usher in the era of big dazzling CGI action blockbusters. Of course JP still holds up today thanks to Star Wars' own Phil Tippett probably because he'd had a whole career of doing practical FX, so knew if a CGI shot wasn't looking as good.

'Dracula' cost $20million less than JP to produce but JP took four times what 'Dracula' took at the box office. I'm sure studio executives took note of that.

Ronster said:

I'd say that is a lot better now

just a thought but after watching it a few times I think it might be better to cut it back on Vaders last line to "inform me when we are in super lasser range" and leave it at that.

It's more blunt and Vader should not be entertaining the idea he will fail can you chop that in your editor as I think it will improve it further. And then I think it is done

but If you wan't to keep it fine It's just where I can see perhaps further improvement

I wanna keep it, for two reasons.

1. Mainly because there would be a big empty silence at the end as you watch the actors walk away. This would be fine (Even an improvement) if I cut the end of the scene tighter but with this being an "All the material" workprint I don't want to trim out this unique snippet of footage.

2. But also because, I really like having a 2nd reference to the Emperor in SW (After Tarkin's mention of him disolving the senate) especially as it identifies Vader's relationship to Palpatine. Then it's already established going into ESB which is nice if you're watching the OT trilogy. Plus it's nice to keep Palpatine more involved if you're watching a PT into OT marathon!

Okay re-worked in latest mix of Vader.

I think this has got it now...

http://vimeo.com/66579702

Ronster said:

Vader sounds muffled... I will have to re-do this... Sorry but It does not sound correct

Perhaps, it's an improvement but yes it does sound a little muffled.

This sounds interesting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5zXhLqG8q0

^None of that IMO.

It's a "Mystical energy field", end of discussion! ;-)

I don't care to over-analyze it, that was where the PT went wrong.

I'm a devout athiest but I can understand that God is just well.. God.

If you try to explain God you'll probably end up like Alan Partridge "God is, a... erm... a gas".

TV's Frink said:

Man, I dig those covers.  Any interest in helping me with a cover?

I'll give it a go Frink. Least I could do after the 'Ridiculous' amount of entertainment you've given me lol.

What have you got in mind?

BR cover for ROTS: Reborn (Click to get full size image):

Ronster said:

here you go... couple of secs added

http://www.mediafire.com/?law1p4gce4h533s

Do a colour version so others can use the clip too as a resource clip... Perhaps some help for others too

Colour version done and uploaded to Vimeo in HD...

http://vimeo.com/66579702

At least it's an HD upload of the semi hi-res image that was on the BR. I did some minor colour work to up the contrast a tad and removed some of the hazy red hue.

Tried to put it on YouTube aswell but the auto-detecting-youtube-nazi-bot wouldn't allow it.

Thanks again to Ronster, Darth_Ender and daneditor for the help with this.

Ronster said:

here you go what do you think of this....

http://www.mediafire.com/?gx17i8ob8mfa5zb

the "to" could not be used as it's a totally different pitch and pitch shifting did not work.

Much better thank you Ronster!

Love how you've removed the "Dark" part of "Dark master" and trimmed the end of Bast's speech. This shorter finish means they are no longer talking all the way 'til the back of the set.

However, could you re-upload the Vader vocal with a second or two of lead in audio. For some reason it starts so abruptly that it is sounding wierd when I mix it in. The "There..." part of "There are no..." is getting lost.

I'll send you a PM with a link to the first 70mins of the Workprint. You can see what you think of that (Obviously the Vader/Bast scene is still the old mix).

I'm really pleased with it as it's nice to view all of the deleted material in context at last.

Thanks again!

daneditor said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Thanks to daneditor's suggestion to use dialogue from 'Star Wars: The Interactive Boardgame' and darth_ender's kind uploading of said game. I've been able to create new dialogue for Vader that is unique to this scene instead of re-hashing lines from elsewhere in the OT. Thought I'd show it in colour as you can already see how the BW version looks anyway, on my Vimeo channel.

The Vader scene works really well with the new dialogue! Great work. The only thing I'd suggest is maybe reduce the volume of Vader's last line as he walks away, just slightly.

Ronster is working on making the sound mix smoother in that scene. The last line is a tricky one, too quiet and you just plain can't understand the line.

Can't wait!

How about "...Tarkin's foolish operation to break her"

from...

"We've ordered a blockade and a curfew, and started a search operation. It's just a matter of time before we find the Rebels."

Sadly, I think Leslie Schofield's only other recorded line in SW is...

"We've analyzed their attack, sir, and there is a danger.
Should I have your ship standing by?"

Schofield uses the word "to" at 12.17 in this clip from the sitcom 'The smoking room':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4QIyNXTlCU