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Bingowings said:

It's clearly the same model coloured differently.

I suggest reading a bit about perspective distortion or maybe try photographing a similar object and noting how details seem to shift when the camera is placed in different positions.

^ not to mention different lenses

^ I bet your poor cat is cowering before the might of the Imperium.

^ Chainswords, just what SW was always missing lol.

I'd also like to see...

Disney animated classics presents: SHADOWS OF THE EMPIRE

Given that Disney are behind the franchise now, wouldn't it be great to see this done as a hand-dawn (But CGI enhanced) animation epic. Obviously you can't do it live-action because the cast are too old. But the old gang could easily voice it and with Disney's top artists on the case this could be beautiful.

There is a huge pre-existing SOTE fanbase out there, that have already bought the game, read the book and built the model kits. It seems like a financial no-brainer for Disney.  They wouldn't even need to pay a big team of people to do pre-prodution designs. It's all be done, the ships, the costumes and the locations have been envisioned in meticulous detail. I think they would have to re-tool Dash Rendar to be less obviously a stand-in bargain-basement Han Solo. More of his own guy.

Poita, I thought I'd have a go at sorting out that old 1826 photo. I used some advanced software I had lying around to cleanup the image...

^ Original

^ Cleaned up.

Wow somebody needs to re-write the history books and then sue George Lucas!

^ German titles look awesome on the posters.

I read it as the Executor bridge since it and the Executor are the only things (Bar small fighters) that move in relation to the camera. All the smaller SDs (Bar one) are ridgidly static thoughout the sequence.

Because we see:

1. A moving bridge

2. 2 shots of the Executor's shadow moving

3. A low shot of the Executor moving

4. A long shot of the executor moving

^This Starcrash? lol

^ Awesome Christopher Plummer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR-SSpuwjzk

An ideal wishlist edit of the sarlacc would go:

1. Solo hits Fett's jetpack on purpose

2. Fett slams into skiff

3. Shot shows Fett lying spark-out in the sand

4. Rest of the scene plays out

5. Cut back to Fett waking up, dusting himself off, then looking skyward with arms outstretched he yells "SOLO!!!!!" in his best Shatner voice.

6. Shot of him flying away on Slave1 after Han

btw would love to see the footage of Fett shooting at Wicket cut into the Endor bunker raid. But I can't think of a possible justification for why Fett would be inside the bunker, shame.

I thought, this could be an interesting thread. Lemme hear your ideas, your plots, your titles, your locations, your characters, your actors and if possible a few "Screenshots".

This would be my first choice to see at the cinema...

                Ewan McGregor in...    BEN KENOBI: THE DESERT PILGRIM

This would play on SW's Western genre influences. Ewan is the perfect age to play this right now, his portrayal of Kenobi was just reaching it's peak at the end of ROTS, I wanna see more.  He would be like a lone hero from the old west, walking the wind swept deserts of Tatooine, righting wrongs and getting into barroom dustups with Tatooine's seedy denizens. Think the 'Fistful Of Dollars' movie, the 'Kung-Fu' TV show and the 'Lone Wolf & Cub' comic book.

Early on, we could see him secretly protecting Luke (Yet still be unknown to the young farm boy). Perhaps using the force to stop Luke from crashing his skyhopper in beggars canyon or even rescuing an unconsious teenage Luke from a skyhopper wreck and returning him to the Lars homestead. Maybe placing a caring hand on Luke's head, whispering "The Force will always be with you Luke" then disappearing silently into a brewing sandstorm.  The plot could revolve around the Hutts being forced to allow the growing Imperial powers to control Tatooine. The Imperials begin opressing and threatning the moisture farmers, so Ben fearing for Luke's secluded safety, decides he must saddle up his camel thing and ride to the rescue.  Maybe he even has to join forces with Jabba and the other Hutts. Maybe he is later required to betray Jabba leading to the Hutt Gangster's obvious hatred of Jedi in Episode VI.

Plenty of scope for cameos from other characters. Tarkin could be the newly appointed Governor ruling with a merciless fist.  I'd love Watto to make a comeback and let's not forget, he and Kenobi have never actually met.  I could see the good side of Watto that was hinted at in the PT, being played up. Maybe he's forced to take a side, maybe his character faces his final redemption, maybe it costs him his life.  I'm seeing lots of windswept shots of Kenobi in flowing robes backed by Morricone-meets-williams music. I want to see this soo badly now.

Tagline... "The circle is now complete"

                                       Your move...

Just finished watching the new Radical Workprint of this ROTJ edit...

Short review = Loved it!

Very clever radical changes that I would never have dreamed were possible. Hats off for taking footage from so many sources and combining it so well.

Now for the long review...

I disagreed with so little of the many changes that it hardly seems worth mentioning the few that I did (Especially as radically changing things is the reason for the edit!). So mostly I'll just list the few minor technical issues I had:

- Squashing and stretching of footage is a BIG NO for me. A shot's aspect ratio should not be tampered with, cropping is always preferrable. Given the generaly very-high quality of the rest of the edit these really stand out e.g.


               ^ Below is an example of a squashed shot from the edit.
^ Top is a partly restored and cropped shot I did. It's still a little squashed but is much less noticable.

- The Boba subs aren't right at all. Controversial, but may I suggest you could construct viable dialogue from Jango, redubed-Boba and clone lines. There is plenty to choose from across the saga.
- The use of the 2011 CGI "Enhanced" Jabba's palace door is an irritation for me. I'm sure others won't really have a problem with it though. Down to taste I guess.

Can I make a couple of suggestions to improve things IMO that wouldn't take much doing...

- A brown/orange tint to the two Dagobah x-wing shots of Luke leaving Tatooine would be easy and really help them blend with the rest of the footage.
- Do we have to loose the cool footage of Boba fighting over the Sarlaac pit? Couldn't he just get knocked out cold, when he crashes head first into the skiff and just remove the rolling into the sarlacc shots. Since you've nicely beefed up Boba's role in the film it seems counter-intuitive to cut this great scene.

Now that's outta the way, onto the good stuff:

- Generally seemless blending of the deleted material back in (It's all here, bar the pilot chatter).
- The re-arrangement of events in the first act (Especially Luke on Dagobah) is a huge improvement to pace.
- The new Star Destroyer shot after the post crawl pan down is such a little thing but makes a huge difference. This whole sequence works perfectly now.
- Nice cleanup of the sandstorm footage. Why wasn't this in the original cut. Having our heroes face to face is soo much warmer and more memorable than chatting over the radio as an after thought.
- The darker music queue over the shot of Luke putting on his black glove is such a subtle change but probably my favourite change in the whole edit!
- Removal of Wicket as a prominant character really helps bring-out the darker side of the Ewoks.
- Removal of Han's hissy fit in the ewok village when he over hears Leia and Luke was great.
- I thought the insetion of the deleted bunker assault footage was particulaly well executed.
- Tie-fighters launching shot kicked ass! (Like frickin' Babylon 5 Starfurys yo!).
- Loved all the new rebels-v-stromtroopers battle footage. It's cut so well into the flow of the scene.
- The integration of the Boba footage is very clever. I couldn't imagine how it was possibly going to pay off in the end... but Dan did it. Great job!
- LOVED the new music at the end. I was getting all emotional.

Guys n gals, you need to see this edit. Not just people who think ROTJ was weak and needed fixing, hardcore Jedi fans too. ROTJ is my favourite Star Wars film and I thought this version was a blast!

p.s. As I've mentioned before, I'm of the opinion that Lando yelling "Yee-ha" while blasting out of the Death Star, is one of the two or three greatest moments in the history of Cinema. But I know Dan feels exactly the oposit, which is why he has made the grevious error of cutting it lol... but nice job on the removal, silky smooth!

Knightmessenger said:

I hate unnatural film coloring with a passion. You may think I'm crazy but that ruined Lord of the Rings for me. LOTR was the first film that I remember going "those colors don't look natural." I know it's common to adjust the tint and color look of a film even before digital technology but LOTR was the first one that looked like it obviously was tampered with.

You're not crazy. LOTR has shots that are tampered with to extremely unnatural degrees.  Especially Gandalf with his blue-hat/grey-hat and glowing face. But being a fantasy film and everything else in LOTR being so classy I could forgive it. But 'real world' films like 'Skyfall' are less forgiveable.

                    ^ "Stop shining that torch in my face please"

             ^ "Dude, sersiously? Stop shining that torch in my face"

^ "Bitch I swear next time you shine that torch in my face I'm gonna Avada Kedavra yo ass"

LMAO

^ The Caradhras pass sequence is one of the worst. Everything but the skin is de-saturated til it's almost a sickly b&w. But their faces still glow with colour and float out of the image.

I was expecting 10 years on in 'The Hobbit' they'd have got better but no, it's worse if anything.

^ Nice idea

Hoth-Nudist said:

^^  Well maybe we'll see porkins as a force ghost in VII!  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32itsA81Ouw

^ Jeremy Irons

HELL YES!!! I bet he could do an evil sith lord that would make even Vader quake in his boots.

                                                                     ^ "I find your lack of faith disturbing..."

Although he's just as great as good characters like in 'Danny the Champion of the world'...

I've uploaded 'deleted material compilations' with text commentaries for all three Reborn edits onto Vimeo. Click image to play...

SilverWook said:

General Madine, if only to finally find out what's with that hairdo! ;)

 

^ Madine had HIS dodgy beard-wig put into storage so Ewan could re-use it for AOTC...

...and Madine's hairpiece was actually a wig that the props department found in a bin after Alec Guiness had wrapped Yoda's death scene = Star Wars Fact

LexX said:

John Hollis has passed away years ago.

Oh no! :-(

^ How about David Warner. The guy is an SF acting legend. One of the all time greats. Yet as far as I know he has never been in Star Wars, how is that even possible???? Time to rectify this one JJ!

^ Perhaps his greatest role as the dastardly Dr Klench, arch nemesis of Professor Nebulous!

Here's a little sub-thread...

Which minor characters would you guys like to see return in the new Trilogy?

Obviously the usual gang plus BobaFett are a given but who else needs more time in the Star Wars spotlight?

And what reason can you come up with to justifiably bring them back?

-----------------

I'll start, how about...

He could still be running Bespin with Lando. I figure Lando has settled down and gone back to deviding his time between ripping off people by fixing the price of Tibanna-Gas and workin' his way through the entire female phone book of Cloud City. So Lobot would be there doing the heavy lifting admin wise and keeping all of Lando's business sh*t together without a word of thanks from his moutachioed boss!

^ Working for Lando has weighed heavily on poor old Lobot

The most mind-blowing release of an old film back into cinemas in recent years...???

Answer... 1985's 'Back To The Future' in stunning Digital 2D for it's 25th Anniversary. The remastered picture quality was so sharp, you almost needed 3D glasses just to make the image all blurry and dark, so that your view wasn't obscurred by tears of joy.

If you release SW in crystal clear Digital/70mm film 2D, on today's big-ass screens with a thundering soundtrack who needs Stereoscopy?

^ Jabba Jabbington Von Hutt the Third, Eighteenth Viscount of the Dune Sea and Lord Admiral of Northern Tatooine and it's outlying fiefdoms.

^

^ Lucas has wound up all of us fans for so long that everyone has basically drawn battle lines and no release Disney could ever put together would satisfy everybody now.

If a DVD/BR with more-or-less the original OT on them had come out in 2004 etc, most would've been quite content. Now everyone has been forced to decide what they want a future BR to include or not include. Personnaly I want the OT released in a clean and error free version, like a pure-purist Revisted akin to the Final-Cut of Blade Runner.  Everything basically unaltered (Minus ILM guy for example) but IMHO removing the 'A New Hope' crawl is a f**king retarded idea.

Problem is...

1. A large number of fans want every little detail put back the way it was on the day of release when a couple of versions (Tiny audio diffferences taken into account) exist even for that.

2. A large number of fans want all the old FX shots replaced with the jazzed up SE ones.

3. A large number of fans want something inbetween like myself.

NO FANS are gonna thank Disney whatever they do, except...

**Drum roll**... The vast majority of the public who couldn't give a sh*t how the films look and will be quite happy with whatever Disney serves up.