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- The all-purpose ART thread!
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Luke’s line in ANH to Obi-Wan reads as weird, given the world building we’ve seen in other media since in which people seem readily familiar with both the Jedi and the Force. Even in the Kenobi show, the Inquisitor rightly presumed they didn’t need to be introduced and that even the population of Tatooine knew they hunted Jedi.
That line in ANH is simply, “The Force?”
Obviously, it’s to get exposition going. But it seems weird for Luke to be familiar with the Jedi and be baffled by mention of the Force.
Not sure the line could be removed seamlessly, though. Maybe an AI line can give Kenobi’s line about the Force a different on-ramp.
It’s been a spell since I listened to the radio drama, but I recall Hamill’s reading of the line in that version being less questioning, more contemplative. Dunno how well it could be incorporated into the movie, but it might be worth a shot.
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And besides, ROTJ has been agreed by most everyone to be the weakest of the OT for some time, and the Ewoks is one of the most commonly cited examples of the problems. I didn’t start this reply thinking I’d bring in my own pet project, but it’s relevant; the storyboards for ROTJ that involve Ewoks are often more compelling and exciting than the actual resulting footage, and I think a lot of it comes down to the fairly inexpressive faces of the Ewok costumes. I do not think they lived up to the intentions of the team making the movie, and Harrison Ford’s goofy tone in those scenes doesn’t help.
An observation I’ve made is that you just can’t cast little persons to play agile arboreal creatures. Changing nothing substantial about the costuming, the Ewoks would’ve worked much better if a combination of child actors/average-height adult actors shot through forced perspective had been used to bring them to life.
Anyway it’s such a specific opinion that only really people his age have. Those slightly younger than him love all 3, those much younger love all 3 and the prequels, the kids now love all 9, and it goes on…
Not really. I was 11 when TPM was released; I’ve come to share Villeneuve’s opinion (even if I think he’s a mid filmmaker and his Dune adaptation in particular falls light-years short of what it was hyped up to be). Not everyone’s blinded by rose-tinted nostalgia glasses.
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Put flesh-&-blood creatures as close to real lava as Obi & Ani were in the movie, and they’d’ve been flash-fried before they got there.
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It’s been a spell since I watched Rogue One, before Andor was a blip on the radar. Perhaps I’d be better able to appreciate Andor’s character arc, but I don’t see any of the film’s other flaws being magically fixed by this show’s existence. Not unless the Ersos/Krennic figure heavily into this upcoming final season.
While we’re at it, I’m announcing my own Star Wars movie. Why not? It has just as much a chance of being made as these.
Fan films have a better track record than Disney, so you’re not wrong.
The best duels are ones where the duelists have some major personal history and backstory that led to the duel happening in the first place. That’s why the duels in ESB and ROTJ are always the best. In ESB, you have Luke fighting the man who killed his father (or so he believes), and in ROTJ you have a son fighting his own father.
Also helps that those two duels had really good lighting and cinematography (especially Empire), something which I’ll admit is a bit lacking in the prequel duels.
Nick Gillard was a mistake.
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Building an Unsolved Mystery
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Do the unmade SW films outnumber the made ones yet?
Superweapon VII said:
After Andor’s finished, I wanna see a Rogue One special edition which brings it tonally in-line with the show.👀
Yep. Cut out all the fanservice. Excise Evazan & Ponda Baba’s pointless cameo, and all the Vader scenes. Any deleted footage better fleshing out the Ersos and their relationships with Krennic and Saw Gerrera should be reinserted also. A new ending bringing the film more in-line with the Legends continuity would be nice, too, if possible.
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Born to Be Beta
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I’ll give it some love, but I won’t have the goddamn common courtesy to give it a reach-around.
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Let’s not act like Rogue One wasn’t any less messy saved in editing and reshoots. So was Star Wars 1977 and Return of the Jedi.
Rogue One is especially tantalizing to me, because I can’t help wondering how great it might have turned out if Tony Gilroy had had more time to fix up the movie, or if he had had creative control from the start. The movie as-is is a little uneven, and the seams of the reshoots are visible, especially when you compare it to the trailers. Without Gilroy, it probably would have been a mediocre movie at best. With Gilroy in control, it could have been an Andor-tier masterpiece. It makes the movie kind of hard to rewatch now.
After Andor’s finished, I wanna see a Rogue One special edition which brings it tonally in-line with the show.
Besides, Star Trek already has space wizards and magic (from a certain point of view).
Back to the Future’s version of Johnny B Goode is better than the original version. And I’m saying this as someone who loves Chuck Berry.
But the phone call that follows, even if it’s a time paradox, is an unfortunate racist joke. That short scene could have been left on the cutting room floor and the movie would not have been changed at all (besides being slightly less racist).
Why is it a racist joke?
Chuck Berry couldn’t come up with the song independently; he had to steal it from a white man. I assume that’s the logic, anyway.
Is horse puree good?