Superweapon VII

Servii said:

Superweapon VII said:

Another bit of discontinuity between the OT & PT. In the OT, only the darksiders are determinists (It is your destiny, I have foreseen it, yadda yadda), while the Jedi believe in free will (Always in motion is the future.) The Chosen One prophecy is at odds with the cosmology of the OT.

I want to agree, but Obi-Wan does tell Luke “You cannot escape your destiny.”

Though I find Ben’s POV questionable at the best of times, touché.

Hayden Christensen was born a century too late. He would’ve been a stellar actor in the silent era.

I hate the Legacy era. All of it, comics and novels. Another fallen Skywalker, another Sith Empire, another Jedi purge. Wash, rinse, repeat, ad infinitum. As shitty as it was, at least the NJO was something different.

There’re reasons why I was initially overjoyed to hear the old EU was been scrapped in preparation for the ST.

Another bit of discontinuity between the OT & PT. In the OT, only the darksiders are determinists (It is your destiny, I have foreseen it, yadda yadda), while the Jedi believe in free will (Always in motion is the future.) The Chosen One prophecy is at odds with the cosmology of the OT.

Enjoying a small glass of St. George Absinthe Verte.

The Crimes of Jezebel: A 3,000-Year-Old Murder Mystery

I think it might be interesting to tackle Silent Hill. I haven’t actually played any of the games – I’m a mediocre gamer who doesn’t have money to make gaming much of a hobby, anyway – but I watched the first movie. While I felt the movie’s script was bad, I liked the visuals. That was inspiration enough for me to check out playthroughs of the first game. Since then I’ve become a fan of the series and its lore, with especial fondness for the Team Silent entries.

I quite liked the horror anthology series Channel Zero, and I think Silent Hill would work best as a series in a similar vein, with no more than six episodes devoted to adapting a single game. There’d be a minimum of five seasons.

• Season 1: Silent Hill & Silent Hill 3
• Season 2: Silent Hill 2
• Season 3: Silent Hill 4: The Room
• Season 4: Silent Hill: Homecoming
• Season 5: Silent Hill: Downpour

SH3 parallels the original so strongly that I feel it would work best to splice their narratives together ala Stephen King’s It, combining certain characters to avoid redundancy. Homecoming would be considerably reworked, not least to remove Pyramid Head and the Bubble Head Nurses.

The series could continue past those first five seasons, depending on how well future games like Silent Hill f and Townfall turn out (I have no faith in Ascension). And there’re always the cancelled games like Cold Heart and Silent Hills to take inspiration from. Hell, it might even be a gas to try whittling a coherent, lore-friendly story out of those terrible Scott Ciencin comics.

G&G-Fan said:

Superweapon VII said:

Lucas briefly toyed with the idea of a 12-episode saga. Episode I would’ve been the prelude to the Clone Wars trilogy, with Episode V serving as an interquel between the Clone & Star Wars trilogies. That would’ve given us 4-5 films in which to explore Vader’s rise and fall.

What could’ve been. But this is why I’m partial to rewrites/fanedits which jettison the episode numbers altogether.

Where would episode 6 have gone then?

Episode VI would’ve been the film we already got in '77.

Anyway, here’re Lucas’ handwritten notes for the proposed 12-episode saga:

Couldn’t find larger copies, so you’ll have to squint. Sorry.

Sometimes dead is better.

CourtlyHades296 said:

The Nintendo 64 is an overrated console that was ruined by the decision to use cartridges rather than CDs. This crippled the system (which would be more powerful than PS1 if it used CDs), and limited its third-party support.

Not sure how unpopular this opinion is. I’ve heard it numerous times.

My sister bought an N64 over a year ago, allowing me to play some of those games again for the first times in years. And yeah, I agree, it’s not as good a system as I remembered it being. The two Zelda games are probably among the only N64 games that actually look good.

Channel72 said:

In general, a story like the Prequels is very hard to write. A “good guy turns evil” script is not easy to pull off in a believable way, especially in only 3 movies. Yeah, the Godfather pulled it off, but that’s why its revered as a classic. Also, Michael Corleone went from a normal every-man to a very unforgiving mafia boss. Anakin has to go from an honorable, likable hero, to a genocidal fascist cyborg in only 3 films. This kind of story is hard to pull off, and I almost wonder if The Phantom Menace was Lucas’ way of unconsciously procrastinating on all that difficult dramatic writing.

Lucas briefly toyed with the idea of a 12-episode saga. Episode I would’ve been the prelude to the Clone Wars trilogy, with Episode V serving as an interquel between the Clone & Star Wars trilogies. That would’ve given us 4-5 films in which to explore Vader’s rise and fall.

What could’ve been. But this is why I’m partial to rewrites/fanedits which jettison the episode numbers altogether.

Spartacus01 said:

The last movie I watched is Give It A Year, with Rose Byrne and Rafa Spall.

There will be spoilers of the movie, so don’t read if you don’t want spoilers!

Man, what I can say? I really love Rose Byrne since I saw her playing Dormé in Star Wars. But this… This is too much. I can’t stand this movie at all.

The thing is… Basically, there’s this married couple. They really want to make the marriage work, but they really can’t, because they have feelings for other people. Now, a good ending would have been them overcoming all of this and learning that, while marriage is about compromise and sacrifice, in the end it’s worth it. But no, in the end they just break up and go with the other people they have feelings for. Ugh… I just hate this!

I am one of the few romantic people left in the world, and I still believe in love and marriage, so I REALLY hate when stories end like this. I mean, I understand that you can’t control your heart and everything, but it would have been waaaaay better if the movie made you understand that there’s no hope for them from the beginning. Instead, the movie makes you have hope for them until the very end, and then destroys every hope in the last scenes, where they just break up and go away with their other love interests. It just sucks.

I find these types of stories frustrating, too. Though my frustration springs from polyamorous sentiments.

Spuffure said:

Superweapon VII said:

Spuffure said:

Superweapon VII said:

And since I’ve been reminded: Fast Times at Ridgemont High is not a good movie.

I’m curious: what are some other '80s “classics” you dislike?

Aliens, Altered States, An American Tail, Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, Flash Gordon, and Revenge of the Nerds have all fanned my hatred or indifference. I’d also include Pretty in Pink, but I wasn’t able to finish that one, so it doesn’t feel fair to include it.

Yeah. I get what you’re going at. '80s cheese is not on my diet.

I also completely understand why you don’t really like teen comedies of the era. I find '80s teen-related stuff annoying as shit. Not to mention lowbrow “humour”.

I don’t dislike them as a whole, though. I quite like John Hughes as a filmmaker, actually.

And I got Pretty in Pink mixed up with Sixteen Candles. Pretty in Pink wasn’t bad at all.

Spuffure said:

The '[]0s really ended in []2/3.

Fixed that for you, since it’s true across all decades.

Spuffure said:

Superweapon VII said:

And since I’ve been reminded: Fast Times at Ridgemont High is not a good movie.

I’m curious: what are some other '80s “classics” you dislike?

Aliens, Altered States, An American Tail, Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, Flash Gordon, and Revenge of the Nerds have all fanned my hatred or indifference. I’d also include Pretty in Pink, but I wasn’t able to finish that one, so it doesn’t feel fair to include it.

And since I’ve been reminded: Fast Times at Ridgemont High is not a good movie.

Marooned Biker Scout said:

red5-626 said:

OK, I have thought about this for some time, but was not shore where to bring it up.
I wanted to come up with a name to describe the preservation projects done here and by other people. But without sounding like… I had an eye patch and a parrot on my shoulder.

This is my latest idea.

F.P.D. Future Public Domain
or
F.P.D.P. Future Public Domain Preservation

Everything should technically become Public Domain some day in the Future, but it may not exist then.

Fan and Amateur Preservation Projects.

FAPPs for short.

It may need some more work!

“Not my proudest FAPP.”

…

I’ll see myself out.

There’s the '80s

and there’s the '80s!

Omni said:

Everything Everywhere All At Once is massively overrated.

Stories involving infinite universes invariably are.

Spartacus01 said:

The primary reason why I have the Hand of Thrawn duology as my cut-off point. The Galactic Civil War is finally over, Luke and Mara are engaged to be married, and Leia has that sweet ruby lightsaber. The best possible ending to the Expanded Universe, I say.

I prefer to end the Expanded Universe with the NJO series and the end of the Yuuzhan Vong invasion. But if I have to put myself in your place, then, wouldn’t it be better to end the Expanded Universe with the Union comic in which Luke and Mara get officially married and the war is officially over? I think their wedding ceremony could be a nice ending for the universe as well.

The comic came out six months after TPM. I consider everything released on and after May 19, 1999 non-canon. Plus it has Jedi in desert hermit robes.

That’s an automatic disqualification.

According to Ben in SW, the Old Republic was around for a thousand generations. In AOTC, it’s a thousand years.

A year and a generation are not the same thing, George!

Evil Dead Rise looks likes it’s gonna be more insipid horseshit in the same vein as the '13 film. Hard pass.

of_Kaiburr_and_Whills said:

1. The sheer amount of cataclysmic events and wars that follow RoTJ. Seriously, it’s like Luke, Han, Leia, and Lando just can’t catch a break. Every 2 years something insane happens and of course they’re the ones that have to fix it. They never get to retire or live out their happy ending. I don’t have an issue with new conflicts starting up, but do they always have to be so intense and involve the same ten people? This is why I’m very picky with my post RotJ content, and why I prefer to just go by head-canon.

The primary reason why I have the Hand of Thrawn duology as my cut-off point. The Galactic Civil War is finally over, Luke and Mara are engaged to be married, and Leia has that sweet ruby lightsaber. The best possible ending to the Expanded Universe, I say.

G&G-Fan said:

Superweapon VII said:

It’s probably difficult for some folks to wrap their heads around Vader being the Dark Lord of the Sith whilst being subservient to a non-Sith Palpatine because since 1999, the Sith have been portrayed as apex predators who have a monopoly on dark side mastery. But this is purely an invention of the prequels.

You do realize that the fact that Vader calls Palpatine his master obviously means Palpatine was a Sith in TESB and ROTJ? Like yeah you can rationalize a different explanation but it’s clear that’s the intention. There’s no need to jump through hoops for another explanation. The scripts for all three call Vader a Dark Lord of the Sith and the Emperor is his master.

If it was so obvious, Tom Veitch, the man who for all intents and purposes invented the Sith, would’ve went with it. But he implicitly denied Palpatine was Sith in Empire’s End.

“Master” obviously does refer to their relationship as Sith Lords because none of the imperials are calling him master, so it’s not just a term recognizing his authority. Vader is his apprentice and he tries to replace him with Luke, as he calls him his apprentice twice.

None of the officers in the Imperial Starfleet are trained Force users.

There’s literally no reason to not make Palpatine a Sith other then to just be different for no reason.

I can think of a reason. Creating dissonance between Sith philosophy and Palpatine’s, aggravating already existing tension between Vader and the man holding his leash.

American Hominid said:

G&G-Fan said:

American Hominid said:

• Palpatine being definitely a Sith (as opposed to just a Dark Sorcerer)

Palpatine has been a Sith since TESB. Vader calls him his master in both TESB and ROTJ. He can’t be his master if he’s not even from the same Order. Vader has also always been a Sith since ANH’s first drafts.

Eh… the word ‘Sith’ is not mentioned onscreen til TPM (since it was cut from ANH - I think at one point Tagge or Motti said it?) and IIRC only Vader was called ‘Dark Lord of the Sith’ in public-facing materials of the time. GL had a lot of ideas and intentions, some of which are old and some which evolved over time. I’m going with what I feel would be cool.

‘Master’ could mean a lot of things. I think the most obvious interp is ‘master - apprentice,’ but that does not necessitate an institutional allegiance, more an expertise-sharing dynamic. It could also mean ‘master - servant,’ which is kinda suggested by some of Palpatine’s lines (“with each passing moment you make yourself more my servant”) - and Vader’s (“I must obey my master”).

Indeed. Besides, in both the Legends and Disney continuities, we have non-Sith darksiders who answer to Vader/Palpatine, even receiving training from them. The most notable example’s probably Mara Jade. And then there are all the inquisitors. So the notion that even masters/apprentices have to belong to the same order was never in play.

It’s probably difficult for some folks to wrap their heads around Vader being the Dark Lord of the Sith whilst being subservient to a non-Sith Palpatine because since 1999, the Sith have been portrayed as apex predators who have a monopoly on dark side mastery. But this is purely an invention of the prequels.