Superweapon VII

Annette O’Toole

Eyepainter said:

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Haarspalter said:

Channel72 said:

Spartacus01 said:

I can’t imagine Vader saying “Liar!! You’re with him! You brought him here to kill me!”

No, he just said: “You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor! Take her away!”

Prequel Anakin would have said something like “Traitor!! You’re with the Rebels! You’ve turned against us!! I will not let you get away with this!” or whatever.

Someone should do a fanedit of the OT with Vaders dialogue rewritten in a Prequel Anakin-esque fashion with James Earl Jones voice recreated by AI. Here are some suggestions:

When Vader interrogates Captain Antilles he could say:

“I’m haunted by the plans that you are hiding from me.” […] “Where are they? Tell us. TELL US NOW!”

The “Bring-my-shuttle” scene in Empire:

“This is outrageous! How can he lose a hand and not join me!? It’s unfair!”

Mocata said:

Superweapon VII said:
Well, if you’re willing to inject some hard sci-fi into your space fantasy

Certainly not.

The right answer.

Channel72 said:

Episode 5 seems to want to convey that Luke was on Dagobah for a while, and mastery of the Force is a slow, incremental process requiring training, even though it’s hard to understand how Luke could have been on Dagobah for long given the overall plot logistics.

Well, if you’re willing to inject some hard sci-fi into your space fantasy, without a hyperdrive, the Falcon would’ve had to travel from Hoth to Bespin in real space at near-light velocity, which would’ve subjected the crew to relativistic time dilation. So everyone aboard the Falcon may’ve only experienced an hours’-long trip while six months elapsed for the rest of the galaxy.

Channel72 said:

Spartacus01 said:

I can’t imagine Vader saying “Liar!! You’re with him! You brought him here to kill me!”

No, he just said: “You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor! Take her away!”

Prequel Anakin would have said something like “Traitor!! You’re with the Rebels! You’ve turned against us!! I will not let you get away with this!” or whatever.

He’d also pace back and forth while saying it. Then an Imperial officer would inform him that an escape pod with no lifeforms crashed on the surface of Tatooine. After realizing what planet they were orbiting, Anakin would tell his crew to initiate an orbital bombardment to kill all Sandpeople and also destroy all sand, after suspecting Leia was here as part of some nefarious sand-related plot to overthrow the Empire. He would then yell out to nobody in particular, saying “I now see through their lies! I will make them pay for their coarse, rough and irritating plotting against my Empire!!!1! It’s all Obi Wan’s fault!!”

*chef’s kiss*

The Exorcist III is the best entry in the series. Yes, better than The Exorcist. William Blatty was a masterful filmmaker, and Brad Dourif is simply the GOAT.

But hey, if you don’t trust me…

(Spoilers ahead, so don’t watch if you’d rather watch the movie in full first.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prBXxurcSqc

adywan said:

we are buggerable

My ideal NOTLD would be the original film, but with Judith O’Dea completely removed and Patricia Tallman’s assertive Barbara from the 1990 remake inserted in her place. If I had the money to afford the hardware/software, this is a fanedit I’d jump at tackling, feasibility notwithstanding.

Mocata said:

fmalover said:
How would Owen know anything about Anakin’s convictions if he barely said “hello” to him.

He could have overheard Anakin shouting about the women and children he killed I guess.

It’s an open secret that Owen’s a voyeur and there’re secret bugs, cameras, and two-way mirrors all over the ranch.

As far as film critics’ vs. audience scores go, I don’t trust either.

Channel72 said:

I don’t know, I was just watching Empire Strikes Back the other day, and actually it’s pretty surprising how calm and reserved Vader is most of the time. In A New Hope Vader loses his temper once, in the very first scene, when he’s like “Tear the ship apart and bring me the plans!” or whatever. But in Empire he’s very subdued. He never loses his temper - he just calmly kills you when he feels you’re under-performing. The closest he comes to sounding angry is when he says to Ozzel “You have failed me for the last time, Admiral”, but in fact he barely even raises his voice when saying this. He just wants Ozzel to shut up so he can tell Piett the plan going forward. He comes off as ruthlessly efficient, which goes along with his “half-machine” persona.

Sometimes Vader sounds a bit impatient - it’s kind of funny when some Officer has to bother him when he’s inside that meditation chamber, and Vader is like “What is it, General?” You can hear slight impatience in his voice. But he never rages or loses his temper. He’s the complete opposite of Kylo Ren. And definitely way more subdued than Anakin, who was constantly flipping out in both Episode 2 and 3. We can make excuses for this personality difference by saying that over the years Vader became more mature as a Sith and learned to channel his anger in more constructive ways or whatever, but honestly the reality is that Anakin’s portrayal just kind of sucks.

Also of interest to continuity is that Vader is slightly different in A New Hope because he essentially was a different character at that time. He was written as more of a generic villain who killed Luke’s dad. It was only with Empire that Vader became a more complex character, and his personality changed slightly to reflect that. But the difference between Episode 4 Vader and Episode 5 Vader is barely even noticeable compared to Prequel Anakin versus OT Vader.

You can see this contrast more clearly when you compare Leigh Brackett’s TESB draft with the final film.

Omni said:

Well, unless the Filoni-verse can pull off a miracle and make me care about the ST setup, this movie will be a hard pass, possibly an unpleasant pass. Still trying to ignore and forget about TROS completely, but we’ll see.

I will say it is indeed painful to see Rey take on this mantle of “first of the new” that was fully meant for Luke - regardless of what is text or isn’t, Luke wins in ROTJ by defying his elders, and they all look proudly back to him at the end, which symbolizes how right he was to go against their wishes. It’s been the major understanding of the franchise for decades - that Luke would be the first of the new, his masters the last of the old. It makes sense, the Empire that they were unable to stop was defeated by Luke, the status quo completely changed, everything changed. Luke has a clear path and a blank page to make a better Jedi Order than ever before. Even Timothy Zahn saw this way when writing Thrawn, and I don’t think anybody objected, because I’m pretty sure that’s how everyone interpreted Return of the Jedi.

Sadly for some inexplicable reason the sequels took that away from him, and while seeing Rey at the end of TROS explicitly on this same exact path felt really bad, actually getting, to her, what we should’ve gotten for post-ROTJ Luke is… hard to stomach. Ugh.

Yeah.

I think a lot of us who were loners growing up saw ourselves in Luke. We wanted for him what we wanted most for ourselves: happiness, family, love, success. The Expanded Universe, for all its faults, delivered on this. We never wanted him sacrificed in a cynical zero-sum game.

WitchDR said:

But can we please stop equating “sequel hate” to some kind of “right wing” movement? It’s honestly tiresome… Peoples politics have absolutely nothing to do with how people felt about these movies.

It is tiresome. I’m no mind-reader, but it’s a safe bet I’m among the most left-wing of the posters on this site, if not the most left-wing, and I’ve never liked TFA or the 60-odd minutes of TLJ I watched.

Reactionary troglodytes are the most outspoken critics of these movies – and don’t doubt for a second that that fact gets under my skin every, single, time I think about it – but it’s not fair to lump every dissenting voice in with their camp.

Archivist99 said:

Yoda did train Obi Wan, from a certain point of view.

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Eyepainter said:

StarkillerAG said:

Night of the Living Dead. I tried watching it a couple days ago, but it has aged horribly. The protagonist is a “helpless screaming blonde” of the type that was unfortunately common in old Hollywood…

I’m pretty sure the protagonist was the black guy, Ben

I now have in my head the image of Duane Jones with Judith O’Dea’s blond locks. Priceless.

Obviously, these gifs fail to adequately convey the fathomless depth of my contempt and loathing for this blasphemous abomination. Still, you catch my drift.

Mango said:

There are so many other things I want to offer to the world, including some of my own fiction. I’d love to make movies myself. I’d like be known as an innovator in horror fiction. But I can’t bring myself to work on such things, because I’m afraid of failure.

I feel this.

Sigourney Weaver

fmalover said:

Superweapon VII said:

It’s a shame Klaus Kinski was cremated. If there’s anyone who deserves to have their grave desecrated, he’s a top contender.

Why?

He sexually abused his daughter, Pola, from when she was five years old up 'til nineteen.

It’s a shame Klaus Kinski was cremated. If there’s anyone who deserves to have their grave desecrated, he’s a top contender.

1. Andor
2. The Clone Wars (2008)
3. Droids
4. Clone Wars (2003)
5. Rebels

I have absolute zero interest in anything else Disney presently has to offer, and you couldn’t pay me to watch a goddamn cartoon about Ewoks.

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