Superweapon VII

Juno Eclipse said:

Many fans only separate the novels and comic books into “Canon and Legends” from the old EU when Disney announced their thing in 2014. For me, my own head canon, there is also separation of the Jedi before/after 1999. The retcons of them after 1999 of no longer having family attachments, the interpretations of ‘compassion’, ‘love’, ‘fear’ (not a problem for Yoda in Empire), possessions, being separated from their parents, even uniforms (as Emre posted above). As well as the general disconnects between the two trilogies that George chose to introduce, all means it is a major obstacle to cohere the two.

The interregnum between TPM & AOTC was an interesting period for the EU, at least where the Jedi are concerned. In spite of the “no attachments” rule established in TPM, EU writers still assumed Jedi could be in romantic relationships, the most explicit example being Ki-Adi-Mundi, who has shown having multiple wives and children. In hindsight, you can see the tension between the pre-1999 & post-1999 lore. It was Schrödinger’s Star Wars.

I’m sure Rey’ll end up doing everything Luke should’ve done, but better.

Seriously, fuck this character and fuck this movie.

JadedSkywalker said:

The strangest thing is George Lucas promised Kershner final cut on Empire. The Special Edition is going back on his word and changing a film he didn’t direct.

Really? Damn. That makes me lose even more respect for the man.

JadedSkywalker said:

I just ordered the Lando trilogy which i haven’t read in decades. I wonder if i will enjoy the Adventures of Lando books by L neil Smith. The only affordable edition is the Disney printing with legends slapped onto the label. Someday i would like to get the vintage ones but not now.

Did anyone else ever read these i only remember Vuffi Raa.

I definitely read the first one and liked it. I might’ve read the second one, but I can’t remember anything about it, so I dunno.

I bought a used paperback omnibus, and at one point planned to finish the trilogy, but I weeded it along with most of my SW stuff after the post-TLJ state of the franchise/fandom left me angry and averse to anything SW-related.

Never had one. I’ve been socially isolated longer than I’ve cared enough about SW to argue about it, and none of my family members were/are even casual SW fans.

Maria Viktorovna

The older I get, the more repulsed I am by breast implants. The stretch marks … the surgical scars … the generally unnatural appearance of prominent breasts on a body with near-zero body fat…

“You a f****t, Nash?”

“Why, Garfield? You cruising for a piece of ass?”

Only seen the first GOTG. How’s that Shakespeare quote go? “It’s a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”

I really hate live-action superhero movies.

Mocata said:

darklordoftech said:

Another problem with the Plinkett reviews is that they made people forget about the suppression of the original versions and think that the prequels were fans’ only grevience with Lucas, so Disney felt a lot of pressure to make sequels that didn’t resemble the prequels and no pressure to release the original versions of the movies. I wish Plinkett reviwed the Special Editions in additon to the prequels.

I don’t think we can be sure that the popularity of these reviews led to the ‘play it safe’ nature of the TFA. Mr Plinkett did state in his Star Trek 2009 review that J.J. should direct them though. Disney probably just read the general mood of the fandom at that stage. To test this theory he needs to do a 70-minute video about the state of the Special Edition changes, and we know he’s not a fan because of that interview with Alexandre Philippe.

I rewatched the TPM review last night, and criticism of the SEs are right there, with mention of all the needless CG shit Lucas inserted to fill up the screen.

Emre1601 said:

Superweapon VII said:

Kane Skywalker is more canon than midi-chlorian parthogenesis. Fight me.

You mean Kane Starkiller? The father of “Annikin Starkiller” 😉

“Kane Skywalker is more canon than midi-chlorian parthogenesis” - I’ve never heard of this man. But I agree 100%. This man is more canon than midichlorians.

My point exactly. Even Nellith Skywalker is more canon than midi-chlorians.

Kane Skywalker is more canon than midi-chlorian parthogenesis. Fight me.

Took me awhile before I watched the reviews. First time I tried, I was put off by the Plinkett voice; I even looked around for a transcript of the reviews so I could get straight to the criticism without having to sit for hours on end listening to that voice, but couldn’t find any. I eventually did get around to viewing them, a couple years down the line.

One of the more minor bits of insight they provided that I always strongly agreed with was that Jedi should wield individualized weapons tailored with their biology in mind. Kit Fisto swinging around a regular lightsaber is stupid when any of his head tentacles could hit up against the blade at any moment.

It’s so ugly it could be a modern art masterpiece.

fmalover said:

LegendarySimba said:

Cable Guy. One of my favorite movies. Lou Holtz Jr & Ben Stiller are goats for writing and directing this movie. Jimmy Carrey and Matthew Broderick’s acting was amazing. 🔥 A classic that never gets old in my opinion.

That movie’s only crime is that it was way ahead of its time.

Y’all are right on.

The Cable Guy’s been one of my favourite films since I first watched it when I was twelve. Never could fathom why my father disliked it.

Hydra Spectre said:

The new 2004 Emperor is amazing, even if you never saw Star Wars before and are starting from the OT.

Except he looks nothing like he did in ROTJ, upsetting visual continuity. And the altered dialogue is a hackjob.

Temeura Morrison as Boba Fett makes a lot of sense because he is objectively better at delivering his lines than Jason Wingreen did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON4sOlxvtbU

I’m mostly indifferent to gender-swapped Kynes. There was a theory floating around that the change was made to make Stilgar Chani’s father, but IIRC, this ended up not being the case (someone with a fresher memory of the film can correct me if I’m wrong on this point). So an altogether arbitrary change, and mildly irritating on that front, but the actress gave a strong performance, so I wasn’t horribly perturbed. There were many other aspects of the filmmaking which left me far more cold. For example, Chalamet’s entire performance, his hair, and his stupid “Iron Man” moment.

Hyperspace is the gateway to the midi-chlorian microverse.

I didn’t get home Internet until late 2007, and I never followed Star Wars news/discussions when online at the school/library before that point. So while I can’t say I hated the prequels prior to 2008, with each prequel I watched in/around the time of release, the sense that something was amiss with the filmmaking grew, and with it dissatisfaction. I distinctly recall the ennui I felt towards SW in the interregnum between first seeing ROTS and first encountering prequel criticisms online.

Here’s a hot take that might upset a subset of the forum: Fans haven’t “started to come around and start showing the prequels the appreciation that they should have gotten in the first place”. It’s almost exclusively the fans who always loved the prequels unironically continuing to love the prequels unironically, be they the gushers from the days of yore or the kiddies who’ve grown up on them now adding their voice to the echo chamber.

Though I’m generally put off by multiversal shenanigans these days (I’ll never, ever see Everything Everywhere All at Once), a part of me still would like a SW Multiverse to be canonized, if only to say that the OOT and the pre-1999 EU are just as valid as the “real” SW Universe.

screams in the void said:

Superweapon VII said:

screams in the void said:

Mocata said:

Anyway I might find a few online copies of Dark Empire or the Thrawn trilogy.

to paraphrase Yoda , " If into Dark Empire 2 and Empire’s End you go , only pain will you find . "

Well, that and nice art.

^ sure , if you don’t mind Cam Kennedy being switched out for a different artist, in a tonally different style on Empire’s End and the rush job that was done on it , wrapping the whole thing up in just 2 issues

Eh, I think Jim Baikie was a fine replacement, though I certainly don’t prefer him over Kennedy. And the story was a rushed hack job; I don’t disagree.

screams in the void said:

Mocata said:

Anyway I might find a few online copies of Dark Empire or the Thrawn trilogy.

to paraphrase Yoda , " If into Dark Empire 2 and Empire’s End you go , only pain will you find . "

Well, that and nice art.

I’m a huge Studio Ghibli fan, but most other anime I’ve watched is a mixed bag for me. I think I’m on the same page as Hayao Miyazaki vis-à-vis “otaku” culture.

Gotta love Hayden’s lecherous Kubrick stare emblazoned on that card. Just a dash of extra spiciness to make the farce complete.

Mocata said:

I gotta say… I watched the entire dub of Backstroke of the West some time ago and it was still really boring. In fact that might have been the last time I watched any of these. I was tempted to go back at some stage recently but… eh. I have other things to do besides let SW give me a headache.

I couldn’t get through Backstroke of the West. The opening act was the most I was able to digest. Any more than that, and my brain would’ve overheated.