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#1357923
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
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Having worked with both 4k77 and the UHD now, in most cases 4k77 is significantly more tightly cropped than the UHD. So this conversation about cropping is kinda moot.

Maybe in a couple of scenes in Star Wars the cropping varies but in the majority of shots the UHD has more picture info.

In Empire, for many of the Falcon shots were cropped for the SE but these are the only examples of deliberate cropping by Lucasfilm.

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#1353827
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D+80 - Empire Strikes Back - 4K Theatrical Reconstruction
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Showing your ignorance here, both of the project and of the film itself.

First up, this release is a single pass color correction of the Disney source. As in a single correction for the whole film. You are very welcome to color correct each scene to your own liking, but that was/is never the intention of this project. Maybe read up on the project?

Secondly, Hoth was always blue it was never white. Check the original film sources. Yes snow is white, but when lit it looks blue. Are the scenes in D+80 too blue? Maybe. But Hoth was never intended to be white even in 1980.

For someone who calls themselves a purist you really don’t seem to know your facts about the film’s original colors.

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#1353110
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Info Wanted: The DIFFERENT STAR WARS versions - which is best?
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Alderaan94 said:

I am still very confused.

Fair enough. If you are just discovering the options then it would be very confusing considering the amount of context you would require.

What should dictate the version you go for is your preference. Do you want:

  1. The highest picture quality and best colors - much like a commercial bluray release should have been, but not necessarily a complete replication of the in theatre experience in 1983, or
  2. The closest to the in-theatre experience in 19XX but at the expense of some quality - e.g. less detail, grain, dirt, faded colors etc

If the answer is 1 then go with the D+XX (D+77 and D+80)series by oohteedee in either 1080p or 4K and choose the latest version.

If the answer is 2 then go with the 4KXX (4k77 and 4k83)series in either 1080p or 4K. There are lots of variations here for people’s different preferences. You’ll need to read up on them to find out which version will best suit your tastes.

An important thing to note is that users on these forums tend to fall into 2 camps:
Purists - they will recommend film print based preservations and not recreations based on home video sources
Everyone else - don’t really care what the source is and just want the highest picture quality and colors

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#1347560
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D+80 - Empire Strikes Back - 4K Theatrical Reconstruction
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Three reasons:

  1. The SE replacement shots are from a release print which has grain. To make these blend better with the disney main source you add grain to the whole film.

  2. The movie was shot on film. Disney went crazy with the DNR to the detriment of the movie. Add some grain back and it looks better and more authentic - this is a theatrical reconstruction after all.

  3. Grain is good generally (I’m talking negative grain not print grain - that is totally subjective).

If you don’t like grain then stick to watching the prequels. Or as I said earlier, make your own version with no grain.

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#1347543
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D+80 - Empire Strikes Back - 4K Theatrical Reconstruction
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Ryan said:

oohteedee said:

andresfresard said:

Did you add film grain to this project? Also I would love if you could point me to the right direction to find these edits as they look outstanding! Congratulations on this.

v2.0 does not. I left the grain layer off when I rendered it. The next version will have one.
D+77 v2.1 does have a 35mm grain overlay.

It looks like someone has put them on public torrent sites already. I can’t tell you where but a search and you should find them.

I prefer to not have any grain added in.

Well you can go ahead and make your own version then with no grain.

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#1334149
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Info: All Star Wars films released in 4K HDR on Disney Plus: 2019 SE with more changes
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Can’t agree with you there. The whole choice of colour grade in the Disney versions across streaming and discs is pretty terrible. “Dark and desaturated” was clearly the brief. Particularly in Empire and Jedi.

The silver lining is that unlike the 11SE, all the color information is there so with some tweaks it can really be improved.

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#1315480
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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CatBus said:

three of which I can handle like my existing official Blu-rays: glue them all together, put a string through the middle, and suspend them inside one of the cavities in the walls of my house, so nobody accidentally watches them or stumbles across them and thinks that I like those films enough to buy them

This is really funny.

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#1314962
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Why don't people hate the Palpatine re-casting in ESB yet despise Force ghost Anakin's re-casting in RotJ?
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I hate both. But I hate Hayden in ROTJ more. TBH any prequel invasion into the OT pisses me off the most.

I’ll take Han shooting first long before the Jango Fett Kiwi accent in TESB for Boba Fett. I’ll take all the CGI in ANH long before the lone CGI Dugg in Jabba’s palace.

I grew up with the OUT on VHS and saw the SEs in the cinemas as a teenager. I felt most of the additions were meh. It wasn’t until the 2004 versions were released that my venom for the SEs came about and it was mainly due to the prequel invasions in the films.

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#1311789
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Info: All Star Wars films released in 4K HDR on Disney Plus: 2019 SE with more changes
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Doctorossi said:

I would suggest a brief pause to get ahold of the better-compressed source.

Actually this is pretty good timing as we will have LUTs ready and tested to correct the OT colors. Which will mean we can release corrected versions within days of the commercial release in 4k and hopefully in HDR.

Unless they change the color timing between now and then…