Stardust1138

It’s my favourite Star Wars film. That is all, that is all.

Exporting Raymond. It’s Phil Rosenthal’s documentary about pitching and trying to get Everybody Loves Raymond made in Russia. Pretty funny and very interesting! Interestingly enough too it’s now the longest running adaptation of an American series in Russia.

StarkillerAG said:

I feel the opposite about Giacchino’s score. It’s probably my least favorite of the Star Wars scores, just a pale imitation of John Williams’s score for ANH. John Powell’s score for Solo is the true underrated score in my opinion.

I’ve not really listened to John Powell’s score for Solo by itself honestly. I’ll have to give it a shot. Haha

Broom Kid said:

The Guardians of the Whills suite is so gooooood.

People don’t talk a lot about Giacchino’s score for that movie but it’s really one of my favorites.

I agree. It’s such a beautiful track. To think he only had four weeks to write the score for the movie too. It’s really remarkable as quite honestly I find it to be one of the best scores of the Disney era by far!

Inspired by the discussion in “What are the Themes of the Star Wars Movies?”.

What are your favourite themes in each film?

The Phantom Menace- Anakin is Free

Attack of the Clones - Yoda and the Younglings

Revenge of the Sith - Anakin’s Dream

A New Hope - Binary Sunset

The Empire Strikes Back - Rescue from Cloud City/Hyperspace

Return of the Jedi - Darth Vader’s Death

The Force Awakens - The Scavenger

The Last Jedi - The Last Jedi

The Rise of Skywalker - We Go Together

Rogue One - Guardians of the Whills Suite

Solo - Lando’s Closet

Let’s see if someone can help me find this movie after years of trying to find it again!

There’s this film that came out in the late 80’s or very early 90’s about two brothers and a girl they both like. It’s set in Miami as the oldest brother was a Heat fan and the little brother has a very severe fear of the water because their father had a drowning accident. I remember he worked as a lifeguard and I’d like to say had a Walkman he listened to but I can’t be certain about that detail. I remember though they both liked the same I believe blonde hair girl and they had a fight over it.

That’s about all I can give as it’s been a few years since I’ve seen it on one of the film channels but I remember really enjoying it.

TPM - People helping people, symbiotic relationships, and the dangers of fear and greed.

AOTC - Distrust and further corruption of power.

ROTS - That even the purest of motivations in love can be twisted into doing dark deeds.

ANH - Hope.

TESB - That things don’t always go as we hope and sometimes there’s hard truths.

ROTJ - Love and faith ultimately triumphs. Redemption.

TFA - No idea.

TLJ - Failure and learning from the past.

TROS - No idea.

Dek Rollins said:

I love Solaris, but I haven’t gotten around to seeing Stalker yet. Need to get on that.

I highly recommend Stalker. It’s truly an incredible film. I watched it early last year and to this day I think about it often. It’s truly left a permanent mark on me. I’d also recommend watching Zerkalo and Andrei Rublev if you haven’t seen them!

This is the best Sci-Fi film!

https://youtu.be/YuOnfQd-aTw

And worth consideration:

https://youtu.be/BBYJH6UAAfw

Tarkovsky Shooting Stalker - Backstage

Part One

https://youtu.be/WaW8NZfmfI4

Part Two

https://youtu.be/4ah7fP9cK_c

Part Three

https://youtu.be/PDU0dskBnkM

‘George Lucas on the impact of Star Wars with Christopher Nolan’ - 2011 video for the DGA’s 75th anniversary.

Watched this tonight. A great conversation between George and Christopher Nolan discussing the original film.

https://youtu.be/7VRYKlnEP7o - at the Nisma Productions youtube channel. (58 minutes long.)
 

Anakin Starkiller, I’m familar with some of these but not all. I’ll have a listen when I have the chance. I also meant to say Crisis? What Crisis? Is the name of the album not A Soapbox Opera. I always think A Soapbox Opera has the working of a great title for an album and get it mixed up.

Dek Rollins, they’re such a great band. It’s good to see some love for them!

These are classics too.

https://youtu.be/low6Coqrw9Y

https://youtu.be/VxPmb_pg6aw

Anakin Starkiller said:

Yeah. Either this thread or another one. I’m leaning towards this one to make it a catch-all.

Personally, I really don’t get the appeal of the Beatles, and to a lesser extent Queen.

Also 99% of hip hop is just bad. I don’t like hip hop. Just these annoying, repetitive snares and monotone vocals with the most needlessly crude lyrics imaginable. Yay, you do drugs and have been to prison! Are you proud of yourself?

I’d equally recommend Queen I. It’s a great album. I used to listen to The Beatles all the time as a teenager. Now I’m more into George Harrison’s solo work. I especially love his albums Somewhere in England, All Things Must Pass, and self titled George Harrison.

Another underrated band I see never talked about is Supertramp. I highly recommend their album A Soapbox Opera.

I don’t think it works because it undermines everything Anakin did of bringing Balance to the Force. I really wonder who “Uber” was in George’s treatments.

I think Snoke had the perfect set up to return in Episode IX and even be Plagueis. Especially as he told Kylo “You wonder why I keep such a rabid cur in such a place of power, a cur’s weakness properly manipulated can be a sharp tool.” He easily could’ve had himself “killed” to take himself out of the conflict as it divides the First Order further as Kylo and Hux clearly don’t know how to lead and with the Resistance already weakened it opens the door for him to invade the galaxy with the Knights of Ren, his army he was building up during the events of the PT and OT. All while searching for the secrets to immorality and perhaps the essence of Rey and Kylo could be that key as she’s the Light to Kylo’s Dark and together they must defeat him. You could even have him declare he and Palpatine created the Empire as a partnership after influencing a Jedi master to create a clone army all those years ago.

It even gives Finn the chance to lead a stormtrooper revolt.

The First Order and Resistance versus the Knights of Ren.

This ultimately keeps everyone’s legacy in tact yet adding the final layer of giving everyone a part to play in the final battle and defeating the ultimate bigger fish!

George Lucas
Andrei Tarkovsky
Larisa Shepitko
Sergey Bondarchuk
Ingmar Bergman
Akira Kurosawa
Hayao Miyazaki
Nancy Meyers
Sergio Leone
Alfonso Cuarón
David Lean
Alfred Hitchcock
Ridley Scott
Denis Villeneuve
Terrence Malick
Christopher Nolan

These are the ones that come to mind. I especially really love Soviet/Russian cinema. It’s filled with so much beautiful visual cinematography. I think the three Soviet/Russian directors I mentioned reflect that strongly in their works.

oojason said:

Paul Heaton and Jacqui Abbott put on a great evening (he of The Housemartins and Beautiful South, with Jacqui of Beautiful South fame too) - a really good vibe and atmosphere, and will likely leave with a smile on your face.

They’ll change the tempos to some of the more popular tunes to keep things fresh and fun etc.

There are a few youtube videos of them live - in concert both indoor and at festivals etc.
 

Johnny Marr (of The Smiths, Electronic fame) also puts on a top show; superb guitar playing and a lengthy catalog of music to choose from 😉 Plus, he is getting more confident in his own right as a vocalist too. At times you may think he’s not playing live - as his guitar playing sounds the same as it does in the studio or for a single release - the man is that good.

Johnny Marr - Getting Away With It (6 Music Live October 2014)

Johnny Marr performing “How Soon Is Now?” Live at KCRW’s Apogee Sessions
 

The Specials and the The Beat (The English Beat in the US, and RIP Roger) are well worth catching if you can - great atmosphere at their gigs.

John Power (of Cast, and The La’s) is well worth going to - a top night out.

Dido was surprisingly good - just wasn’t expecting it (I wasn’t a fan, previously thought she was a little bland, and went as a favour for a mate), yet she great sense of humour & interaction with the crowd. Good voice and turned up the power and range as and when.

Jazz wise, Candy Dulfer (saxaphonist) puts on a good show - she a very strong band playing with her - modern, covers, funk, as well as some traditional.
 

For more modern stuff you’d have to ask someone else 😃 Though… The Tea Street Band, The High Dials, and The Cheap Thrills all put on a good set.

My apologies for the delay! I’ve not had a chance to listen as I don’t have high speed data for another few days but I’ll have a listen to these suggestions when I do! Thank you so very much. Always enjoy hearing new tunes and artists. Don’t worry about the modern stuff. There’s very few current artists I like. I’ll try to come up with some recommendations for you too and send it when I have data! 🙂

This feels appropriate. Haha

https://youtu.be/xChORIKcAcg

This is also a classic moment.

https://youtu.be/UixoYj1CheM

oojason said:

^ The 12th Timelord doing a half decent Bowie impression? 😃

(I like Craig Davidson’s outlook & humour on his old show - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5zhExXiL8A)
 

Re the Manics, if you get a chance to see them live go check them out - they put on a great show, and some quality music too (when all this is over and things start to get back to a sense of ‘normality’).

Hahahaha. 😁 Yes!

I love this interview. Craig’s show is a gem and greatly missed. He interviewed Carrie quite a few times. I wish I could’ve seen Craig’s face when he got the news that Peter was doing it.

Oh, that’s great they put on a great live show. I’d certainly like to do so for sure. The Manics and Paul Weller are my top two British acts I want to see when I move across the pond. 🙂 Who else would you recommend seeing?

Rey’s Journey follows the Heroine’s Journey more than the Hero’s Journey but unfortunately it’s botched in the final installment a great deal. It’s more Kylo/Ben who follows the Hero’s Journey but in reverse.

One of the biggest problems with this trilogy I feel though is it’s not necessarily something we believe in anymore. It’s inclined more towards the Han Solo side of the story versus continuing on the path of the Force and Luke Skywalker aspect which is more spiritual.

The trilogy (and Disney era in general) is very modern and not as timeless as the two trilogies before it in a lot of ways.

The Heroine’s Journey:

https://m.mythcreants.com/blog/using-the-heroines-journey/

oojason said:

^ Love that song - and also Clapton’s cover of it too. Will have to give the album a good listen to in a bit 😃

 

Marvin Gaye - ‘What’s Going On?’ (live in 1972):-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPkM8F0sjSw
 

or the official 2019 video:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5TmORitlKk
 

It’s a great one. Really enjoy Eric Clapton’s cover as well. Great tune your way too. I also enjoy Manic Street Preachers as you shared in your previous post. It’s such an interesting story what happened to Richey Edwards.

Here’s one for you. Any guesses who the singer is without reading the comments?

https://youtu.be/9P7e3PMear0

Love Comes to Everyone by George Harrison. Strongly feel it’s one of his most overlooked songs.

https://youtu.be/peTMq9lVBoA

DominicCobb said:

As misguided as TROS is, whatever George had come up with for the trilogy would have been 100% worse.

I doubt that very seriously. I think it would’ve been much better as at the very least he’d be following a broader story that is consistent. He always had an idea of where the story was going as even Steven Spielberg said in the 90’s that part of George’s process for the Prequels was part of his concept for the Sequels. The Rise of Skywalker has no sense of plot or story but feels more like a game of darts. You can’t say that for the Prequels. For all. The Disney Trilogy is essentially a modern take on the Original Trilogy.

NeverarGreat said:

I wouldn’t have cared if Rey was the cured love-child of Ahsoka Tano and Jar-Jar Binks as long as she got a consistent and well-written arc.

Absolutely. That’s how I felt after resigning myself to the fact we aren’t getting George’s story. Unfortunately The Rise of Skywalker botched her arc beyond repair while The Last Jedi at least pushed her away from merely being an audience insert character as she mostly is in The Force Awakens. She has emotional growth which is an important part of the Heroine’s Journey but it’s sacrificed and made into a clunky tug of war between two different visions. The whole mystery around her character was a mistake.

StarkillerAG said:

But we don’t really know if George would have wanted that. We know that he wanted the protagonist of the sequel trilogy to be a woman, but we have no record of him wanting her to be Luke’s daughter. I would be wary of making assumptions about that kind of stuff. All you have to go on is your own personal opinions, which can be biased.

Leia is a Skywalker too. So the granddaughter may not have been Luke’s.

Jett Lucas also implied as much after The Force Awakens when he compared it to the animated Anastasia film.

Even Pablo Hidalgo said the starting point of what George left them was about a girl Jedi.

These too.

https://youtu.be/z_nigIbJ9KM

https://youtu.be/viDu9SLvF_E

So it’s not really assuming but going off of what we’ve been told by George and others.

StarkillerAG said:

So basically, you’re saying that you wanted Rey to be a Skywalker by birth? Because if you are, then I don’t really agree with you. I wish they had just gone down the nobody route.

It’s what George would’ve done, so yes. It fits the estiablished lore and canon of what we learn from the Mortis Arc. In particular from Father, “It is only here that I can control them. A family in balance. Day with night. Destruction, replaced by creation.”

A random nobody doesn’t fit the natural direction the saga was going on but as its own thing away from George Lucas Star Wars it works just fine. I don’t get the thought from some though that say the Prequels change anything about anyone being Force Sensitive or not. We see a bunch of random Jedi and it resides in all living things. There’s nothing contradicting there.

So really there’s two Star Wars franchises for me now. The one from George which consists of the first six films and The Clone Wars and Disney Star Wars which consists of their produced content. It contradicts what we know sometimes but it still can be enjoyed and even loved mostly. For me personally that consists of The Last Jedi, Rogue One, and Rebels.