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#1352457
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Last song you listened to.
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oojason said:

^ The 12th Timelord doing a half decent Bowie impression? 😃

(I like Craig Davidson’s outlook & humour on his old show - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5zhExXiL8A)
 

Re the Manics, if you get a chance to see them live go check them out - they put on a great show, and some quality music too (when all this is over and things start to get back to a sense of ‘normality’).

Hahahaha. 😁 Yes!

I love this interview. Craig’s show is a gem and greatly missed. He interviewed Carrie quite a few times. I wish I could’ve seen Craig’s face when he got the news that Peter was doing it.

Oh, that’s great they put on a great live show. I’d certainly like to do so for sure. The Manics and Paul Weller are my top two British acts I want to see when I move across the pond. 🙂 Who else would you recommend seeing?

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#1352403
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What is the main Star Wars Saga about?
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Rey’s Journey follows the Heroine’s Journey more than the Hero’s Journey but unfortunately it’s botched in the final installment a great deal. It’s more Kylo/Ben who follows the Hero’s Journey but in reverse.

One of the biggest problems with this trilogy I feel though is it’s not necessarily something we believe in anymore. It’s inclined more towards the Han Solo side of the story versus continuing on the path of the Force and Luke Skywalker aspect which is more spiritual.

The trilogy (and Disney era in general) is very modern and not as timeless as the two trilogies before it in a lot of ways.

The Heroine’s Journey:

https://m.mythcreants.com/blog/using-the-heroines-journey/

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#1352380
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Last song you listened to.
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oojason said:

^ Love that song - and also Clapton’s cover of it too. Will have to give the album a good listen to in a bit 😃

 

Marvin Gaye - ‘What’s Going On?’ (live in 1972):-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPkM8F0sjSw
 

or the official 2019 video:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5TmORitlKk
 

It’s a great one. Really enjoy Eric Clapton’s cover as well. Great tune your way too. I also enjoy Manic Street Preachers as you shared in your previous post. It’s such an interesting story what happened to Richey Edwards.

Here’s one for you. Any guesses who the singer is without reading the comments?

https://youtu.be/9P7e3PMear0

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#1352295
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What is the main Star Wars Saga about?
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DominicCobb said:

As misguided as TROS is, whatever George had come up with for the trilogy would have been 100% worse.

I doubt that very seriously. I think it would’ve been much better as at the very least he’d be following a broader story that is consistent. He always had an idea of where the story was going as even Steven Spielberg said in the 90’s that part of George’s process for the Prequels was part of his concept for the Sequels. The Rise of Skywalker has no sense of plot or story but feels more like a game of darts. You can’t say that for the Prequels. For all. The Disney Trilogy is essentially a modern take on the Original Trilogy.

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#1352271
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What is the main Star Wars Saga about?
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NeverarGreat said:

I wouldn’t have cared if Rey was the cured love-child of Ahsoka Tano and Jar-Jar Binks as long as she got a consistent and well-written arc.

Absolutely. That’s how I felt after resigning myself to the fact we aren’t getting George’s story. Unfortunately The Rise of Skywalker botched her arc beyond repair while The Last Jedi at least pushed her away from merely being an audience insert character as she mostly is in The Force Awakens. She has emotional growth which is an important part of the Heroine’s Journey but it’s sacrificed and made into a clunky tug of war between two different visions. The whole mystery around her character was a mistake.

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#1352269
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What is the main Star Wars Saga about?
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StarkillerAG said:

But we don’t really know if George would have wanted that. We know that he wanted the protagonist of the sequel trilogy to be a woman, but we have no record of him wanting her to be Luke’s daughter. I would be wary of making assumptions about that kind of stuff. All you have to go on is your own personal opinions, which can be biased.

Leia is a Skywalker too. So the granddaughter may not have been Luke’s.

Jett Lucas also implied as much after The Force Awakens when he compared it to the animated Anastasia film.

Even Pablo Hidalgo said the starting point of what George left them was about a girl Jedi.

These too.

https://youtu.be/z_nigIbJ9KM

https://youtu.be/viDu9SLvF_E

So it’s not really assuming but going off of what we’ve been told by George and others.

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#1352263
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What is the main Star Wars Saga about?
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StarkillerAG said:

So basically, you’re saying that you wanted Rey to be a Skywalker by birth? Because if you are, then I don’t really agree with you. I wish they had just gone down the nobody route.

It’s what George would’ve done, so yes. It fits the estiablished lore and canon of what we learn from the Mortis Arc. In particular from Father, “It is only here that I can control them. A family in balance. Day with night. Destruction, replaced by creation.”

A random nobody doesn’t fit the natural direction the saga was going on but as its own thing away from George Lucas Star Wars it works just fine. I don’t get the thought from some though that say the Prequels change anything about anyone being Force Sensitive or not. We see a bunch of random Jedi and it resides in all living things. There’s nothing contradicting there.

So really there’s two Star Wars franchises for me now. The one from George which consists of the first six films and The Clone Wars and Disney Star Wars which consists of their produced content. It contradicts what we know sometimes but it still can be enjoyed and even loved mostly. For me personally that consists of The Last Jedi, Rogue One, and Rebels.

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#1352253
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What is the main Star Wars Saga about?
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DominicCobb said:

I don’t think it’s accurate to say the series is about tragedy. Overcoming tragedy, sure. The “Tragedy of Darth Vader” was always bogus, the films themselves never supported that framing. I don’t see how the ST changes the saga’s meaning in any way, adds on to it sure but it doesn’t really contradict anything.

I’ll kindly disagree as I find it very tragic as we see a young man lose his way amongst a Jedi Order that suppresses his emotions and doesn’t try to help him overcome any of it. This leads him to having to hide and repress his feelings. All of which leads to the beginning of losing the ones he loves in his mother from his inability to let her go and ultimately his wife as he’s promised what the Jedi refuse to give him by Palpatine as a way of saving Padme from the same fate as Shimi. Even Qui-Gon, the only one who truly believed in him amomgst the Jedi was a significant loss in his life. All of this occurred under the backdrop of a crumbling Republic. By the time of A New Hope he’s a shadow of his former self as he’s become a slave yet again but this time to the Sith and Empire. We slowly see him trying to find his way again when he discovers he has a son and makes a plea for him to join him. Ultimately he is redeemed through the love of his children but not without tragedy along the way.

The Sequels change it from being about the Skywalker family to both the Skywalker and Palpatine family. Making a Palpatine the main hero of the trilogy really misses the whole overarching point of the Skywalker saga as a whole being the story of a family that happens to live in a galaxy far, far away. We can’t say for certain what George would’ve done apart from a few details that have come out but we can be assured it would’ve continued where we left off in a natural direction.

As he told StarWars.com last year for the 20th anniversary piece about The Phantom Menace, “Early on, it was that Anakin had been more or less created by the midi-chlorians, and that the midi-chlorians had a very powerful relationship to the Whills [from the first draft of Star Wars], and the power of the Whills, and all that. I never really got a chance to explain the Whills part.”

His story would’ve followed Anakin’s grandchildren and more than likely would’ve explored his legacy and the consequences of his actions through the grandson who falls to the Dark Side and the granddaughter who follows the Light Side to go along with exploring the more mystical aspects of their family’s existence.

And while the story of family is still there in the Sequel Trilogy it retroactively changes the original intention of it being about a family.

It’s very unfortunate we didn’t get the whole story.

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#1351966
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The Unpopular Film, TV, Music, Art, Books, Comics, Games, & Technology Opinion Thread (for all you contrarians!)
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DuracellEnergizer said:

BB-Rey said:

And unrelated to George and Star Wars I’d say Frasier is superior to Seinfeld, Friends, and other sitcoms of its time.

This I can agree with mostly (I was never a regular viewer of Seinfeld, so I don’t know how the two compare).

I haven’t watched Seinfeld much either to be fair. However from what I have noticed I’d say Frasier has more of a linear sense of character growth throughout its eleven seasons and unique relationships as each character feeds off of another really well that brings out the best and worse in them. You really see the contrasts in ideals between Frasier and Marty, Niles and Daphne, Roz and Bulldog (even Noel), and other characters. I think what separates Frasier the most is that it feels more like theatre than that of a typical sitcom and how it has such a genius usage of humour that doesn’t play just for the laugh track. It never dumbs itself down for the audience which is unfortunately all too common.

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#1351902
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The Unpopular Film, TV, Music, Art, Books, Comics, Games, & Technology Opinion Thread (for all you contrarians!)
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Anakin Starkiller said:

The Force Awakens still holds up fine, IMO. Sure, it’s not revolutionary, but it’s a damn good time. The first chunk up until they meet Han and Chewie is absolutely phenomenal.

For sure! The first half and a good chunk of Takodana mostly work for me as there’s potential as to why the lightsaber calls to Rey and the rain sequence in the vision for examples. Although now these feel a bit too much like an empty mystery box. I also enjoy when the Resistance arrives and Rey pulling the lightsaber out of the snow later on Starkiller. I think my problem with The Force Awakens in retrospect is that it resets the state of the galaxy to Rebels and Empire 2.0 and our original heroes to basically the same starting points of the Original Trilogy. It’s not a bad film by any stretch but I can’t really enjoy it like I used to. I think for me at least it has to be seen as its own thing away from the macro story.

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#1351893
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The Unpopular Film, TV, Music, Art, Books, Comics, Games, & Technology Opinion Thread (for all you contrarians!)
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Anakin Starkiller said:

Funny you’d say that, as someone whose username is made up of reference to two characters from the Sequel Trilogy.

Haha, yeah! I used to really enjoy the Sequel Trilogy for what it is as I really loved Rey but unfortunately they botched her character beyond repair in The Rise of Skywalker. Lately I can’t really watch any of the trilogy apart from The Last Jedi. I may not think it understands the lore and canon it’s continuing entirely from the first six films but it at least feels like it’s trying to tell an interesting story that continues where The Force Awakens left off and that’s a film I feel doesn’t understand the macro story of the first six films in retrospect at all. So there’s no point in connecting the Sequel Trilogy and first six films together entirely.

This video really conveys my feelings on it almost exactly.

https://youtu.be/MCHg_j4jcFU

All and all I think The Last Jedi and Rogue One are the only Disney era films I can enjoy.

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#1351868
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The Unpopular Film, TV, Music, Art, Books, Comics, Games, & Technology Opinion Thread (for all you contrarians!)
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George Lucas is the most underrated and underappreciated filmmaker of our time. You can truly watch his films without sound and still understand the emotional context of the scene and piece together what’s going on with visuals alone. Not many filmmakers can do that. I also think despite what is said by some he did have a story to tell with the Prequels and it wasn’t just about telling the same story all over again or pushing the technology forward but about teaching us important ethical issues yet in a way that resonated with children. He always planned it this way as he saw the Prequels as the more social trilogy. I equally think his dialogue is very unique and like that of cinema of old. I’d rather have a vast imaginative clutter on screen with a million things going on like the streets of Mos Espa for re-watch value than nothing going on like Jakku in The Force Awakens. I appreciate his imagination and wanting to make each era of Star Wars different and unique. I’d rather see the Whills and Midi-Chlorians over the Disney Sequel Trilogy any day! Not to mention he gets too much flack for changing his mind. Every creative person is like that!

And unrelated to George and Star Wars I’d say Frasier is superior to Seinfeld, Friends, and other sitcoms of its time.

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#1351865
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The Eopie fart joke appriciation thread (Formerly "Revenge of the Sith and inconsistencies with my memory - wipe transition?")
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One of the beautiful things about the podrace is how it syncs up perfectly with the speeder chase in Return of the Jedi. The pods explode at the same second for example.

I also found this recently. The original arrival on Courscant!

https://youtu.be/-r4ucS1WhQc

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#1351860
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YouTube/Vimeo/etc. finds for Original Trilogy <strong>making-ofs, documentaries, promos</strong>, etc.
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Carrie interviewing George in 2002. Best interview I’ve seen of him apart from the Bill Moyers conversation. He really opens up a great deal.

https://youtu.be/H84DLtS5ANg

Technically the premiere of Revenge of the Sith but Mark with the giggles for the saga as a whole! He got it half right. Haha 🙂

https://youtu.be/gofOfeWo-g8

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#1342467
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Ranking the Star Wars films
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DominicCobb said:

The good old blender ranking.

Indeed. My rankings change constantly. For a long time they were IV, V, I, III, VI, VIII, II, VII, IX but things change!

The Phantom Menace is my current favourite as I’m becoming unashamed of my love for it. I seriously don’t mind Jar Jar stepping in poo doo or the Eopie tooting in his face. The stepping in poo doo was put in prospective for me by a little boy on YouTube laughing at the moment with his Daddy and I quite like the sound design of the Eopie’s nose wag. In all seriousness though I love how it’s a story of people helping people. Qui-Gon frees Jar Jar, Anakin helps the group earn the Hyperdrive Generator, Qui-Gon frees Anakin, Jar Jar brings the Naboo and Gungans together, and etc… It’s a lot of good cause and effect. I really love how there’s duality between the Force and Midi-Chlorians, the Jedi and Sith, Anakin and Selbulba, Sabe and Padme, and etc… I love how the film really gradually shows the beginnings of how society evolves and changes. Even little things like Qui-Gon touching Shimi’s shoulder show how the other Jedi have mostly all lost their compassion. It’s a very innocent film rooted in underlying cynicism, corruption, greed, and lust for power. I really love the world building and action too of course. The score is also my favourite in the entire series. I could truly talk about why I love this film forever.

The Empire Strikes Back is next. What hasn’t been said already? It’s the perfect sequel. I especially love all the scenes with Luke and Yoda and anything on Cloud City. Han and Leia’s relationship is quite lovely too. The spirituality of Dagobah I think is why I love it as much as I do. Plus all the Eastern influence.

Revenge of the Sith is next because of all the layers and how it shows the final breaking point of what turns a society and good person to do terrible deeds. It really shows how the Jedi have lost their way at this point in the narrative. There’s instances notably with Anakin and Padme where the dialogue isn’t perfect but I still love the story and can look past a couple of nitpicks. I also wish Padme had more to do. I really wish the deleted scenes with her and the Rebel Alliance were included. The Opera House scene is one of the best in the saga though.

Return of the Jedi is next because of my love for Luke and Vader. The moments they share are truly some of the highest and also best of the saga. The compassion Luke shows for his father is the core of major themes and values of these films. The scenes with Jabba’s Palace are also really fun and I love when Luke returns back to Dagobah. The Ewoks are also cute and I like how they show even the little guy can overcome the odds and for the clear Vietnam influence.

A New Hope. It’s typically been my favourite and it still is up there. I’m just feeling the ones above slightly more right now. I love how there’s a story that can be told before and a story told after. It’s so very open. Luke’s humble beginnings is very relatable. Binary Sunset is truly my favourite moment in the entire saga. I love The Cantina, Death Star, and Trench Run. Leia is also a bad ass and doesn’t need anyone to save her! You can’t forget Han, Chewie, C-3PO and R2 either of course. It’s truly a classic for a reason.

Attack of the Clones. For a long time I had mixed feelings about it but lately I’ve come to see I really like it and think it’s pretty good. It’s not perfect but it’s still interesting and a good time. I especially love how we see further the decays of society with the advertising and slums on Coruscant and how Anakin and Padme have to travel as refugees. While the love story isn’t perfect it does make sense. They don’t know what love is as he’s studying to be a Jedi and she’s a senator. They don’t know what this is supposed to feel like. So it won’t be smooth. I feel super uncomfortable when watching the fireplace scene but so did Padme. So I think that says all you need to know. It’s far from perfect but it’s still a good watch. I consider it to be like a light sympathy as it gradually builds to the epic climax and the beginning of The Clone Wars.

For the Sequels see above.

And the Spinoffs.

Rogue One has really grown on me these last couple of months and I think how it captures the spiritually aspect of Star Wars better than any Disney era Star Wars film is a big reason why. I love Chirrut and the scenes on Jedha. I’m one of the rare people who prefers the opening to the last act. Overall I appreciate how it has multiple callbacks to both the Prequels and Originals but tries to be its own story at the same time. Gareth Edwards and team truly did great job with this one.

Solo I’ve only seen once. I can’t really give a fair opinion but I enjoyed most of the new things. I especially really liked Qi’Ra and Drayden Vos. All and all it’s certainly entertaining at times but feels a bit too modern for my liking and not timeless. A problem more and more common with modern Star Wars though.

There you have it. My overall reasons for loving what I love.

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#1342453
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Ranking the Star Wars films
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NeverarGreat said:

Considering this ranking, I find your choice of username and avatar…curious.

My username doesn’t really reflect my current feelings as I currently have very mixed feelings about the Sequel Trilogy. The Last Jedi is the only one I can truly sit through as I enjoy most things with Rey, Kylo, and Luke and it’s overall really enjoyable apart from some non-Star Warsy dialogue, meta commentary, and humour. The other two are more difficult to watch as The Force Awakens I enjoy for Rey but is difficult at the same time to watch now as she’s connected to Palpatine even though the parallels point to something else. Context was thrown out the window in general for the parallels and ideas in this trilogy. They forgot context as to why certain moments worked to begin with. It doesn’t help that it’s more or less a beat for beat story remix of A New Hope. The Rise of Skywalker I can’t even make sense of. It’s entertaining I guess but that’s all it has going for it for me. It truly doesn’t understand the source material at all. Especially when it comes to the maybe two callbacks to the Prequels. It also doesn’t naturally continue The Last Jedi but acts as both a sequel to The Force Awakens and disconnecting itself from the former. The only really good thing is Leia having her own lightsaber and training with Luke but even that falls apart with context when you realise she trains Rey but not her own son. Rey also declaring she’s a “Skywalker” and ending up all alone when her clear motivation from the beginning of the trilogy was finding belonging is insulting. It’s also ridiculous how she does things just because the plot says so. I still mostly love Rey but it’s disappointing seeing what they’ve reduced her down to. And don’t even get me started on “Lightspeed Skipping” and 'Somehow Palpatine has returned". Needless to say this trilogy is full of highs and lows. The Last Jedi while it doesn’t always understand the source material at least to me feels like it’s trying to be bold despite being really good at hiding its clear story borrowing from The Empire Strikes Back. It does to its credit have callbacks to Attack of the Clones also though.

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#1319204
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Most Disappointing / Satisfying Aspect of the Sequel Trilogy?
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BedeHistory731 said:

BB-Rey said:

No respect or regard for the Prequels.
Diminishing Anakin’s legacy as the Chosen One.

I don’t mind either of those.

Each to their own opinion. I just feel even if you don’t like something you should at least respect the established lore and canon rules of what’s been established. There’s ways that you can go about it that both respects it and pushes you to new and exciting areas. Pandering gets you nowhere unless it makes sense for the story to go in those places like say Darth Plagueis may have done.