Can I have a link to this edit? I’d love to see it.

I would have written it in such a way that it could have fit with the pre-1999 established EU. Therefore I would have depicted the Sith Order in the same way it’s depicted in the Old Republic video games and comics, with Palpatine and Vader being the ones that established the Rule of Two after the creation of the Empire.
I wouldn’t have changed the name of the characters. Padmé can’t become Nellith. She’s Padmé, and she still looks like Natalie Portman. End of the story.
Since the non-attachment rule doesn’t play any relevant role in this rewrite, I wouldn’t have introduced it at all, and I will have made it clear that the Jedi can actually marry and have a family.
I still would have found a way to have Anakin’s wife die at the end of the Trilogy, because having her death happen offscreen between the PT and the OT is pretty silly for me, and it makes everything overly complicated. Furthermore, to solve the problem posed by Leia’s line in Return of the Jedi, I would have simply established that Force-sensitives have a more developed memory than normal people, and therefore can remember everything from the moment they were born, thus explaining why Leia can remember her mother even though she died as soon as she was born.
The rest is pretty solid.

of_Kaiburr_and_Whills said:

1. Last Crusade
2. Raiders
3. Skull
4. Temple

Literally my same ranking lmao.

Tantive3+1 said:

Should Yoda be a present character within the prequels?

I feel that removing him from the PT preserves the revelation in TESB of who Yoda really is.

But removing him entirely would contradict ESB itself, since Yoda clearly states that Anakin was a powerful Jedi. How could he even knew that if he wasn’t part of the Prequels and never knew Anakin?

Episode VII: Set 20 years after Return of the Jedi. The New Republic is now the only government in the Galaxy and the Imperial Remnant has been completely defeated. Luke is the Grand Master of the New Jedi Order, which is different from the Prequel Jedi Order, since it allows attachments and marriage. Within the New Republic and the Senate, rumors are starting to circulate about an unknown enemy, who’s starting to conquer some planets that are located in the extreme edge of the Galaxy. The Senate is split in two: on one side there are those who think there’s nothing to worry about, as those planets are not part of the New Republic, but on the other side there are those who think that the threat is serious, and that the government should start taking precautions and arming itself, In case the invaders decide to invade the territory of the New Republic as well. Chancellor Leia Organa is among those who think the threat is serious, and will spend most of the movie trying to convince the skeptical Senators to take the issue seriously, and to vote in favour of the mobilization of the New Republic’s Army. Meanwhile, Leia orders Luke, her son Jacen, and Jedi master Mara Jade to go on a secret mission to reach those planets and determine the extent of the threat. During the course of this mission, Luke and Mara Jade fall in love and eventually return to the New Republic, to inform Leia and the Senate that the threat is indeed serious. Thus, all the Senators vote unanimously in favor of the mobilization of the Army. So Han - who’s now the Supreme General of the New Republic’s Army - starts mobilizing the troops. The Yuuzhan Vong war has begun, and Luke and Mara marry at the end of the movie.

Episode VIII: Set 3 years after Episode VII. The movie is basically a random adventure set during the war. Mara Jade risks her life in the initial battle, but Luke manages to save her in the end. In the movie, the personality of the main villain (that is, the chief of the Yuuzhan Vong) is explored in detail. Contrary to the Legends version, this version of the Yuuzhan Vong isn’t against the use of technology. In fact, the Yuuzhan Vong are a technologically advanced Alien Empire, who reached the Galaxy in the hope of conquering it. They believe in a supreme God, the God of War (the equivalent of Mars for the Romans). They also have a sacred book, in which it’s stated that their mission is to conquer the entire Universe in the name of their God, therefore they always conquer everything on their path. Their chief is a Force sensitive, and its believed to be a messianic figure by the Yuuzhan Vong people. In the meantime, Jacen Solo starts to become more and more Dark. Fighting constantly and seeing millions of people suffering 24/7 are all things that really affected him, and made him develop more and more Fascist ideals. He starts to think that the end justifies the means, and starts questioning the validity of the Jedi Code. He also starts to enjoy being more aggressive and to use power. His approach to the Dark Side is similar to Revan’s during the Mandalorian Wars.

Episode IX: Set 1 years after the previous movie. During the last year, the New Republic has done nothing but accumulate victories over victories against the invaders, and now it’s preparing to attack their last base, which is the planet Utapau. During the battle, Jacen acts in an extremely aggressive way towards his enemies. It’s clear that he’s on the verge of the Dark Side now. Luke finally realizes what’s going on with Jacen, and tries to bring him back. They have a duel and Jacen actually manages to defeat Luke. But just as he’s ready to kill him, Anakin’s spirit appears to him. Jacen and Anakin have a long conversation together. Anakin explains Jacen that the Dark Side is indeed tempting, but it’s an actual hell, and tells Jacen that he shouldn’t embrace the same wrong path he did, because it was the Dark Side who basically destroyed their family. So, Jacen manages to regain himself and not to fall to the Dark Side. With the help of Luke, they finally face the chief of the Yuuzhan Vong, and kill him. The fact that their Messiah was killed makes the Yuuzhan Vong totally lose their faith (which had already been put to the test during the war due to all their defeats), as they believed their chief to be invincible. In the end, the New Republic and the Jedi forces manage to win the Battle over Utapau, the Yuuzhan Vong are totally defeated, and everybody is happy.

RicOlie_2 said:

The belief that God doesn’t send people to hell, but that we send ourselves there, is exactly what mainstream Christianity believes (Catholicism, Orthodoxy, and many varieties of Protestantism). It’s mostly just Calvinists and fundamentalists who don’t believe that.

Look, I live in Italy, the country where Catholicism has its central base, and in all my life I’ve never heard anyone say that you send yourself to Hell thanks to your own guilt. I’ve always been taught that it’s God who decides who goes to Hell and who goes to Heaven, according to what the person has done in his life. Even during religion lessons at school (because yes, in Italy they teach religion at school), I have always been told that it’s God who decides that, not ourselves. Moreover, in the Book of Revelation it’s stated that at the end of time, it will be Jesus who will decide who can live in the Heavenly Jerusalem and who will have to perish in the Lake of Fire with Satan and his Demons. So, I’ve always assumed that mainstream Christianity teaches that it’s God who decides who deserves Heaven and who deserves Hell, not ourselves.

My beliefs are somewhat complex, but I will do my best to outline them clearly.

I believe in the existence of God. My understanding of God is that He is all-powerful, transcendent, eternal, omniscient, and omnipresent. He is the Creator of the Universe. Additionally, I believe in the existence of the soul and its immortality, as well as in the existence of Heaven, Hell, and angels. However, I do not consider myself a Christian, as I do not link these concepts to the Bible or to Jesus; rather, I see them as standalone truths.

When it comes to the afterlife, I do believe in the existence of Heaven and Hell, but my interpretation differs significantly from traditional Christian views. I imagine these two realms as other dimensions that the soul transitions to after death. Heaven, in my view, is a dimension filled with beauty and positivity, where suffering and pain are absent, and where God’s presence is most powerful. In contrast, Hell is a dimension of suffering and pain, devoid of anything pleasant. These dimensions coexist with our Universe, and within them, souls can lead a real existence, much like we do here on Earth, with one key difference: in these dimensions, we are immortal, free from the constraints of physical laws, and capable of experiencing infinite space.

However, I do not subscribe to the idea that people are sent to Heaven or Hell by God based on belief or adherence to a particular religion. Instead, I believe that God established a Universal Moral Law at the beginning of Creation, which we all feel within us. Deep down, we all know what is right and wrong. For instance, we instinctively know that murder, rape, or betrayal are wrong, even if we try to convince ourselves otherwise. Since this sense of morality exists within all of us, I believe that at the moment of death, we are capable of judging ourselves. I think that we go to Hell only if we believe we deserve it based on our actions. Similarly, we ascend to Heaven if we believe we are worthy of it.

Importantly, I do not view Hell as eternal. I believe that every soul can eventually leave Hell and enter Heaven, but only once they have released their guilt and forgiven themselves for their actions.

I also do not believe in the concept of worshipping God. I view God as an infinitely loving being who does not require worship. He acts out of disinterested love, giving without expecting anything in return. Unlike the God of the Old Testament, who demands worship in exchange for favors, my God does everything for us without asking for anything in return. I do not pray to or worship Him, but I fully trust in His wisdom, power, and the benevolence of His plan. This does not mean that you should not worship God — if praying or worshipping helps someone feel closer to Him, then they should do so. It just is not something God demands from us.

I also believe that God loves all of His creatures, just as a father loves his children. This love extends not only to humans but also to angels and, potentially, to other intelligent beings that may exist in the Universe.

Regarding angels, I see them as spiritual beings who handle smaller tasks and serve as guides to mortals, often without the mortals being aware of it. Angels, like humans, have free will, but they choose not to disobey God because they are in direct contact with Him and understand the absolute truth of His nature. For this reason, I do not believe in the existence of fallen angels or Satan. Evil, in my view, has human origins. We all have impulses to do wrong, but these come from within, not from any external evil being tempting us. We are fully capable of resisting and controlling these impulses.

In my theistic worldview, there are no angelic hierarchies as described in traditional Abrahamic religions. All angels are equal in the eyes of God and possess the same powers.

That, in summary, is what I believe.

I understand that reading my introduction may have “scared” many people, making them mistakenly think that the changes I want to make to the movies are extremely difficult to realize. However, in order to dispel any doubt, I decided to post the full list of all the changes I want to make to all three Prequel movies, to make it clear that these changes are actually not so difficult to realize, at least not for someone who doesn’t have all my problems and can do it by himself.

Changes for The Phantom Menace

1. To change the title of the movie into The Hidden Menace, but using Hal’s version of the crawl;
2. To cut out the part where Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, and Jar Jar visit the Gungan water city, like Hal did in his edit. After Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan meet Jar Jar, the scene is cut and we go directly to the scene where they go to rescue Queen Amidala;
3. To cut out Jar Jar’s poop joke;
4. To cut out the joke of Jar Jar grabbing the fruit with his tongue, and Qui-Gon taking his tongue and telling him not to do it again;
5. To replace the entire third act of the movie (that is, from the return on Naboo onwards) with Hal’s edit of TPM directly;
6. To finish the movie with Qui-Gon’s funeral, by inserting the credits immediately after the shot in which Palpatine’s face is shown.

Changes for Attack of the Clones

My Attack of the Clones edit is almost finished, thanks to the help of Hal 9000. The only changes I still want to make to it are the following:

1. To change the title of the movie into March of the Clones, but using Hal’s version of the crawl;
2. To replace the title of the movie with March of the Clones, but leaving the opening crawl from my edit;
3. To try to trim the Droid Factory scene as much as possible, by making sure that 3PO and R2 stay on the ship, therefore cutting off their silly moments during the Droid Factory scene and the Battle of Geonosis;
4. After the Droid Factory scene, to add the deleted scene with Padmé and Dooku arguing about politics;
5. To try to trim out the duel between Anakin and Dooku, to make it more realistic and to remove the unnecessary moments in which their lightsabers hover in the air without even touching.

Changes for Revenge of the Sith

1. To change the title of the movie into Rise of the Sith, but using the Canon version of the crawl;
2. To cut out the scene where Anakin and Padmé discuss their future projects on the balcony of Padmé’s apartment, at the beginning of the movie, thus going strength to Anakin’s nightmare about Padmé’s death;
3. To put back the various deleted scenes with Padmé and the Senators, possibly by using the best quality versions of those deleted scenes;
4. To cut out the scene where Anakin says “I want more, and I know I shouldn’t.” This entire scene has to go. Maybe, you can replace this scene with one of the scenes with Padmé and the Senators.
5. To put back the deleted scene where Obi-Wan, Yoda and Mace Windu discuss about how to overthrow Palpatine;
6. To cut “I can’t live without her” from the scene where Anakin submits to Palpatine. I don’t want to remove that scene entirely, I’d like that piece of the sentence to go. The sentence should just be: “Just help me save Padmé’s life.”
7. To cut the slaughtering of the younglings by Anakin, and every subsequent mention of it in the movie;
8. To cut out Yoda and Obi-Wan’s entrance in the Temple. I’d like Yoda to use his lightsaber exclusively when he fights against Palpatine;
9. To try to modify the reasons of Padmé’s death, possibly by saying that she dies because of the injuries that Anakin gave her on Mustafar. I actually have nothing against the idea of Padmé dying of a broken heart, but I think that making her die because of the injuries that Anakin gave her is more rational;
10. To put back the deleted scene where it’s shown how Yoda lands on Dagobah at the end of the movie;
11. To replace the shot of the Death Star at the end of the movie with the edited version of the scene where Coruscant replaces the Death Star.

Now, I understand that changing the movie titles and the opening crawls can be difficult, because Hal Himself told me it’s difficult. So I don’t expect one, single person to help me with absolutely every single change. But all the changes that don’t have to do with the movie titles and the opening crawls should be pretty easy to make, if you’re a normal person who doesn’t have my problems.
Therefore, I ask again the question I’ve asked at the beginning of the thread: is there anyone willing to help me with this project?

I love the idea of Yoda not using a lightsaber until he kills the two clone troopers during Order 66.

But perhaps he could fight Dooku by only using the Force. In fact, this is exactly what I did in my edit, I eliminated the lightsaber duel, but I left the Force duel between Dooku and Yoda intact. Honestly, I’m very satisfied with the result, and if you want I can send you my edit in private, so you can copy that clip and use it in your edit.

Channel72 said:

The “no attachments” thing isn’t explicit in Phantom Menace, but I guess it’s implied during that scene when Yoda lays out the “Sith pipeline”: Fear --> Anger --> Hate --> Suffering

The “fear” phase is definitely related to Anakin being afraid of losing his mom, because Yoda points out he’s afraid of losing her right before saying this.

I’ve seen lots of people say Yoda’s quote about fear is very profound. Personally, I never really understood it very well, because the connection between fear and anger doesn’t seem obvious to me. There’s certain specific types of fear and anger that could definitely be linked (the usual obvious example is xenophobia), but that’s obviously not what Yoda means here. He’s clearly talking about fear of loss.

But even fear of loss doesn’t exactly fit the context. Anakin misses his mom. Missing someone isn’t exactly the same as fear of losing them, which muddles this a bit.

Also… Anakin is 10. Of course he misses his mom.

This. Very much this.

SpenceEdit said:

Here’s a bit of the love story. Instead of transitioning from their kiss by the water back to Kenobi, I decided to transition to the following morning. It flows a bit better (I know that transition has been super tricky for editors) but it also goes from a kiss to the following morning which kind of implies that Anakin and Padme had… aggressive negotiations.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NoCCZoq6uipc49smsA8kBghnHxbgPzNB/view?usp=share_link

Wouldn’t it be better if there was just no kiss at all? In my edit, I’ve just trimmed out the fireplace scene and removed the kiss. This way, we go from “We have feelings for each other” to “Yes we have, but we can’t be together”, and we finally end with “Our love is too strong to be kept under control, so let’s be together anyway”. I think it’s a more fluid approach to the love story, without the first kiss at all.

Mocata said:

But the whole reason they resonated so much with people is that they articulated very large problems with the films rather than nitpicks. Just look at the whole Jango Fett subcontracting meme someone posted recently. Or the way the Clone Wars is started under such incredibly weird and suspicious circumstances. The whole trilogy is like that; strange and massive logic holes. But each to their own, nobody has time to argue like it’s 2009 these days y’know.

My philosophy is the following:

I personally manage to appreciate and enjoy the Prequels for what they are, and I understand the plot quite well. Sure, there are some things I’d like to change, but nothing so radical. So, they’re mostly fine for me. We have been discussing these movies for over twenty years now, and in my opinion we have reached a point where it’s no longer even worth discussing, because everything and its opposite has already been said. All sorts of opinions have already been abundantly expressed, therefore there’s no need to say anything anymore. Giving that internet has given us the possibility of making fan edits and rewrites, let’s just use them. You don’t like the Prequels? Fine, then rewrite them. You like the Prequels but you want to improve them? Fine, then fanedit them according to what you want to see. Don’t waste even a single minute discussing about the movies, just take them and modify them the way you want, or rewrite them completely. To each their own. When we’ll die and go to Heaven, then God will tell us who was write this whole time, and who wasn’t.

That’s it.

darklordoftech said:

If the prequels are the Soviet Union, the Plinkett reviews are Joe McCarthy. The Plinkett reviews are so nitpicky and make such stupid complaints about the prequels that they make constructive criticism of the prequels harder.

This.

I opened a thread similar to this a few months ago, when I still had my old account (Darth Malgus). At the time, the thread was only about my Attack of the Clones fan edit. But in the last few months, I’ve decided that editing only Attack of the Clones isn’t enough for me. I want to edit the whole Prequel Trilogy now. For this reason, I need the help of someone who has good editing skills.

I have some problems that prevent me from doing these edits myself. I’ve already explained them in the thread I opened with my old account, but I’ll explain them again, as a reminder for everyone:

• First problem: I’m completely blind from my right eye, and although I see with my left eye, I see very, very little. Therefore, I find it very difficult to stand for too long in front of a computer screen. Even just reading very long things ends up giving me big headaches, it’s very tiring for me. In fact, I use a vocal synthesis to read what’s written on the screen, I never use my eyes to read, because I see very little and it’s very tiring for me to read with my own eyes. I mean, I can handle watching a movie on TV or on my computer, but watching a screen for more than 4 hours really starts hurting me. For this reason I can’t put a lot of effort in my edits.
• Second problem: my computer isn’t exactly the best computer in the world. It’s a low-quality Lenovo computer, which often crashes even for small things and can’t handle too heavy softwares. Every time I try to open a video editing program my computer freezes and I can’t go on. My computer sucks so much, that even just using audacity for more than a half-hour has often resulted in the total crush of the computer, with the result that I had to restart the computer. Therefore, using a video editing program, even a very light one, is out of the question. And I unfortunately don’t have enough money to buy another computer.

The goal of my edits is to modify Anakin’s character a bit. In my edits, Anakin is supposed to still be awkward, rebellious and impulsive, especially in Attack of the Clones, but at the same time he’s not supposed to be as whiny as in the original movies. He’s also not supposed to be as dark as in the original Prequel Trilogy. In fact, I’m planning to avoid making him killing the younglings in Revenge of the Sith, and I want to cut the scene in which he confesses his massacre of the Tuskens to Padmé. I still want to leave the scene in which he gets crazy and kills everyone, but by cutting the confession scene in Attack of the Clones, everything can remain as vague as possible, and therefore we can assume that he only killed a few, adult, male Tuskens, without having killed women and children too. In short, I want to modify the Prequels in order to make Anakin the type of guy that’s rebellious, impulsive, arrogant, and has issues with his inner darkness, but at the same time has a real, and clearly visible good side. I want to preserve the original Anakin as much as possible, but at the same time, I also want to make him a bit more relatable and less dark (at least prior to Mustafar), so that his redemption in Return of the Jedi is much more convincing. Basically, I want to preserve the Prequels as much as possible, but at the same time, I also want to cut all the things that make some people say: “Anakin was a horrible, selfish piece of sh** from the start, and didn’t deserve redemption.”

But, as I said, these problems prevent me from creating this Prequel edits by myself, and that’s why I need the help of someone else. Since I pretty much like the Prequels the way they are, the changes I want to make to the movies are not very radical. I just want to cut some scenes, put some deleted scenes back into the movies, and change the titles of the movies. Also, big chunks of Hal 9000’s edits will be basically copied and pasted into my own edits, so there isn’t even the need of trimming any specific dialogue.

Hal 9000 already helped me with my Attack of the Clones fan edit, but he’s very busy lately, therefore I don’t want to disturb him anymore.

Is there anyone on the forum willing to help me? I already have a prepared list with all the changes I want to make to the movies, so I can post it here, if you want.

Let me know if someone is interested in helping me.

Palpatine does not appear. Snoke is the villain throughout (even on Exegol!).
Here is an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozgt7T98sVg

As Dev Dog already said, that’s insane! I can’t wait to see your edits to be completed! Though, I suggest you to open a separate thread for them.

I like the intent behind this project. However, I think there are some problems with this idea:

1. If these edits are supposed to fit within the Legends timeline, then where the Thrawn Trilogy is supposed to take place? I mean, your edits take place after Return of the Jedi, and you even said that Jacen and Jaina are already born in them. So, where the Thrawn Trilogy is placed in this new timeline? It can’t happen before your Duology, because Jacen and Jaina are born precisely in the Thrawn Trilogy. If Ben Solo is the first son of Han and Leia and was born before Jacen and Jaina, then he should have been born before the Thrawn Trilogy. But there’s no mention of him in the trilogy, therefore he can’t be born before Jacen and Jaina. Also, the Thrawn Trilogy can’t happen after your Duology either, because Luke, Leia, and Han look way older in your edits than in the Thrawn Trilogy. So the Thrawn Trilogy can’t happen neither before or after your Sequel Duology. If it happens before, then everything doesn’t line up as far as Ben, Jacen and Jaina’s births are concerned. And if it happens after, then the appearance of the characters doesn’t align with what’s described in the Thrawn Trilogy itself.
   Maybe you could reply by saying: “Well, I could just say that the Thrawn Trilogy simply never happened, and is entirely replaced by my edits.” But unfortunately you can’t do this either, for the following reasons: 1) the events of the Thrawn Trilogy are often mentioned in the New Jedi Order series, so it must have happened at some point; 2) if you rule it out you don’t have anything depicting Jacen and Jaina’s birth, and if their existence isn’t even mentioned in your Duology, then everything would become very convoluted and wouldn’t make much sense.
2. The Dark Empire Trilogy has the same problems as the Thrawn Trilogy in regards to your edits. Anakin Solo is one of the main characters in the New Jedi Order series, therefore if you want to leave the series intact, you must include Anakin Solo’s backstory. But he was born precisely in the Dark Empire Trilogy, so if you rule it out you don’t have anything depicting his birth, and it wouldn’t make sense to leave it out considering that the events of the Dark Empire Trilogy are often mentioned in subsequent works, especially when Anakin Solo is involved as the main character of a certain story. Besides, just like the Thrawn Trilogy, you can’t place Dark Empire neither after or before your Duology. If you place it before, then again, Ben, Jacen and Jaina’s births would become messy. And if you place it after, the appearance of the characters wouldn’t make any sense, as they look way much younger in the comics than in your Duology.
3. Mara Jade and Luke were already married when the Yuuzhan Vong invasion started. If your edits are supposed to happen before the Vong invasion, where’s Mara Jade then? Why she allowed Luke to leave her and go around the Galaxy alone after Ben’s rebellion? It wouldn’t make sense if they are together already, because she would have never left Luke alone.
4. Since Ben doesn’t appear in the NJO, he should die before the Vong invasion. However, you didn’t seem to have planned any death for him in your edits. How do you want to solve this problem?

If you have solutions for these problems, then I’d like to hear them, and see how you want to solve them within the context of your edits.

Anjohan said:

AotC Inclusion Clip

The clip with more finetuned foley:

https://streamable.com/nf9lw0 (No Obi-Wan deepfake here)

Deepfake

And since so many dislike Obi-Wan’s “aged” appearance (although I don’t mind, since AotC aged Ewan McGregor up with prosthetics and makeup), here’s the Obi-Wan deepfake:

https://streamable.com/3oslfa

Bear in mind that Ewan McGregor did some prosthetics work to appear older in the Prequels, so he has different appearance of his eyebrows. I think I struck a balance here tho, merging the deepfake and the original part. The deepfake alone made his face significantly different from his original, more aged appearance.

Only did the 3-4 first shots of Obi-Wan since it’s so time consuming. If it’s good enough, I can probably do the whole schtick. At least the necessary shots. Many of the dueling close-ups with blue glow are definitely not necessary and will be a nightmare anyway.

Mmhh… I think Hayden’s voice at the beginning (not throughout the entire duel, just at the beginning, before they start duelling) could be replaced with an AI generated voice. Eleven Labs can reproduce Anakin’s voice from the Prequels almost perfectly, to the point that it’s even in distinguishable from the original voice. So, it could be used to match his younger tone of voice from the rest of the movie. Also, I don’t know if it’s me, but I see that the video is a bit jarring. Anyway, overall it’s pretty fine, although I would cut off the background noise of the speeders going around the city at the beginning (it doesn’t make much sense to hear it since we don’t see any speeders going around), and replace it with Anakin’s theme, like others did in their edits of the scene.

If we don’t count the Sequels and spin-offs, then C3PO is the most annoying character. Yes, he’s even more annoying than Jar Jar in my opinion.

Personally, I’d like to incorporate the duel in my edit of Attack of the Clones, by putting it in between of the deleted scene with Padmé addressing the Senate and Padmé’s private meeting with Palpatine. However, I’m still waiting for the perfect cut of the duel to be realized. We need a cut that fits perfectly with the colour and tone of the rest of the movie, with a credible voice change for Anakin (his voice is too deep in the original duel), with a less aggressive behavior from Anakin’s part, and with a perfect de-aged appearance of the characters. Also, the brightness of the lightsabers must be turned down dramatically, because in the rest of the movie the lightsabers aren’t as bright as in the original duel. None of this stuff has yet been accomplished satisfactorily in my opinion, so I’m still waiting.

Channel72 said:

Spartacus01 said:

I can’t imagine Vader saying “Liar!! You’re with him! You brought him here to kill me!”

No, he just said: “You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor! Take her away!”

Prequel Anakin would have said something like “Traitor!! You’re with the Rebels! You’ve turned against us!! I will not let you get away with this!” or whatever.

He’d also pace back and forth while saying it. Then an Imperial officer would inform him that an escape pod with no lifeforms crashed on the surface of Tatooine. After realizing what planet they were orbiting, Anakin would tell his crew to initiate an orbital bombardment to kill all Sandpeople and also destroy all sand, after suspecting Leia was here as part of some nefarious sand-related plot to overthrow the Empire. He would then yell out to nobody in particular, saying “I now see through their lies! I will make them pay for their coarse, rough and irritating plotting against my Empire!!!1! It’s all Obi Wan’s fault!!”

This looks like more a parody of an argument based on internet memes than a real argument.

I can’t imagine Vader saying “Liar!! You’re with him! You brought him here to kill me!”

No, he just said: “You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor! Take her away!”

When I hear about the story of Lucifer’s rebellion against God and his fall to Hell, for some reason, I always imagine Lucifer with the appearance of young Hayden Christensen from Revenge of the Sith. In my opinion, from a purely aesthetic point of view, Hayden has all the cards on the table to interpret Lucifer in a hypothetical movie about the fall of Lucifer from Heaven. You can argue as much as you want about Hayden’s acting skills, but you can’t deny that watching a movie like that would be like watching Dark Anakin from Revenge of the Sith for two consecutive hours, and that would be epic

When Vader is angry, he’s definitely colder than when young Anakin was angry. When he was angry, young Anakin showed his emotions more openly, unlike Vader who showed his anger much more coldly. However, in my opinion they are not different characters, but simply two different behaviors of the same character. After all, when Vader was already a servant of the Emperor, he had nothing left. I think his cold and calculating behavior is due to the fact that he was completely lonely and had nothing left to lose, he no longer had anything that made him feel really connected to anything, he had nothing that made him feel that his emotions were really worth expressing . Only when he realized that Luke was his son he did begin to express his emotions more openly, which is why in Return of the Jedi we see him acting a bit more like Hayden from the Prequels. There’s no contradiction between the two attitudes. When a person loses everything and has nothing to care about, it often happens that this person becomes much colder and more reserved, and that he shows his anger less emotionally than when he still had something that mattered to him. This is something that often happens in many movies and with many characters, and it’s not a contradiction.

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You know, this is one of those times in which I regret not being a native English speaker. I would love to discuss these things, but I manage to consistently express my thoughts on these complex issues only in my first language. Ugh… It’s so annoying!